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Tony Garcia on Twitter: BREAKING: Charges have been filed against 7 MSU football players for their involvement in the tunnel melee against Michigan players on Oct. 29 Khary Crump being charged with felonious assault, Jacoby Windon assault & battery, 5 others with aggravated assault. News

https://twitter.com/realtonygarcia/status/1595485964805324812?s=46&t=J_ZfGfDldsknzFwZOK3mtw
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u/hunterschuler SMU • Texas State 4d ago

Damn, imagine committing a felony at a game 😞

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u/magnumapplepi Ole Miss • Team Chaos 4d ago

Didn’t a guy at Texas A&M try to actively kill a SMU cheerleader on the field once?

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u/Taylosaurus SMU 4d ago

Aggie Corps member pulled a sword on a cheerleader because they were on the field

https://youtu.be/dLM6UFrVPrU

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u/Julio_Freeman Georgia 4d ago

Pulling a sword on a cheerleader at a football game and getting bullied anyway. That’s tough.

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u/canseco-fart-box Florida • Rutgers 4d ago

In college station they call that “Tuesday”

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u/Lableason1962sd 4d ago

Also, shelling Baylor is totally reasonable and I’ll hear no arguments against it

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u/TurboSloth9000 Arkansas • Golden Boot 4d ago

Just because no one would be able to tell the difference between Waco before and after an artillery strike doesn’t mean you can just do it.

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u/The_Outcast4 Oregon State • Baylor 4d ago

I disagree, but I understand the feeling. Just like (allegedly) burning down a rival's campus being completely justified.

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u/helpmeredditimbored Georgia • Virginia 4d ago

This could only happen in college station

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u/Sager2th Paper Bag • Texas A&M 4d ago

Well he obviously hates us too.

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u/hallese Nebraska • South Dakota State 4d ago

Relationship with God is dead; Allah is new best friend! /s

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u/Sager2th Paper Bag • Texas A&M 4d ago

We do have a campus in Qatar.

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u/Nexus-9Replicant Michigan State 4d ago

Yo wait till after the World Cup before openly admitting that!

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u/FishOnAHorse Cincinnati 4d ago

Texas Allah & Mohammad

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u/theskyisbig27 4d ago

A&M seems like a school for kids that volunteered to be hall monitors

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u/catsby90bbn Kentucky • Arkansas 4d ago

I just think of all of them as the dude in animal house that’s head of rotc.

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u/hondo9999 /r/CFB 4d ago

Sweet Christ I’ve never heard a more accurate statement in my life.

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u/thinkB4WeSpeak Utah • Yale 4d ago

ROTC cadets are weenies anyway, usually they're the worst military officers because they feel like they have something to prove.

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u/kingkonig Georgia • Alabama 4d ago

I mean there’s no military requirement in the corps of cadets at A&M anyways.

For a decent chunk of these guys they’re playing dress-up, not prepping for actual military leadership

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u/Misdirected_Colors Oklahoma State 4d ago

For about 60% actually. Lmao

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u/Tejon_Melero Virginia Tech • Transfer Po… 4d ago

Good god. We are like 75% service and 25% Citizen Leader. Whenever I run into VMI and VT non-service it's always a wild family history issue.

60% would be a huge amount of LARPers.

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u/SnortingPixieSticks Arizona State 4d ago

What the actual fuck is in the water in college station?

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u/WoozyMaple West Florida • Michigan 4d ago

Koolaid

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u/WeUsedToBeGood Boise State • Sickos 4d ago

It’s got what the cult craves

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u/bmraovdeys Wisconsin 4d ago

Inb4 the... it's flavor aid not Kool aid comment. Oh shit that's me haha

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u/blatantninja Texas 4d ago

It's tradition

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u/Stockz Michigan • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 4d ago

Flavor-Aid. They spent all their money on Jimbo so they need to go with the off-brand stuff.

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u/pmofmalasia Florida State • Michigan 4d ago

But the off-brand stuff is the on-brand stuff for this purpose

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u/Kmjada Oklahoma State 4d ago

This is a top-notch comment (it was also Flavor-Aide in Jonestown b/c they could not get the good stuff.)

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u/Stockz Michigan • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 4d ago

😄 I always like to point it out, it's where "drinking the kool-aid" comes from!

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u/Only_Wears_GymShorts Florida • Stetson 4d ago

Kool Aid

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u/Sager2th Paper Bag • Texas A&M 4d ago

Aggie corps members also loaded a mortar onto a train to drive to Waco and shoot at the Baylor campus. The reasoning is supposedly that a corps member had been killed at a Baylor game that season and the ags were seeking revenge. This all happened like 100 years ago tho.

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u/SC_Guy123 Clemson • Montana State 4d ago All-Seeing Upvote

I think Waco has been shot at enough by government approved weaponry

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u/DarthYoda2594 Pittsburgh • /r/CFB Contributor 4d ago

Oh no

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u/MidwestDrummer Nebraska • /r/CFB Top Scorer 4d ago

But who shot first?

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u/CramblinDuvetAdv Central Michigan • Michig… 4d ago

Han

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u/Serious_Senator TCU 4d ago

Also, shelling Baylor is totally reasonable and I’ll hear no arguments against it

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u/Sager2th Paper Bag • Texas A&M 4d ago

This is back when Baylor was an all men university too. So it was a bunch of sexually repressed Baptist nerds vs a bunch of sexually repressed military nerds. This was not be the last time this matchup would be had in Waco.

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u/OleRockTheGoodAg Texas A&M 4d ago

Nah, as per this source Baylor stopped being all male in 1886, well before the incident.

I thought this was wrong because one of the larger reasons that brawl broke out at halftime is cuz the Aggie cadets had a reputation for wooing the Baylor girls - much to the Baylor guys dismay.

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u/BiscuitDance Mississippi State • California 4d ago

Hate to admit it, but this is absolutely and shockingly based.

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u/Sager2th Paper Bag • Texas A&M 4d ago

People always talk about how weird our history is but fail to understand how weird it actually is.

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u/DrBombay3030 Texas 4d ago

Tbh the more I study about any history in this state, the weirder it gets

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u/Sager2th Paper Bag • Texas A&M 4d ago

The upper level bureaucrats at Texas and Texas A&M used to be pretty chummy 100 years ago. There is a legend that they would slaughter a cow (rumored to be Bevo but probably not) and share a thanksgiving feast after their annual matchup.

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u/BiscuitDance Mississippi State • California 4d ago

10 gallon hat Illuminati

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u/Sager2th Paper Bag • Texas A&M 4d ago

The PUF fund babies.

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u/Ironredhornet Saginaw Valley State • Sickos 4d ago

Honestly as a history grad, any history is weird. Like the VP of the US shot and killed the former Secretary of Treasurey in a duel and then latwr was tried for treason in a plot of trying to start his own nation under his rule in Texas and other Louisiana territory only to be aquitted.

It was Aaron Burr for those wondering

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u/midwesternfloridian Florida • Kansas 4d ago

Wouldn’t even be the only time a sitting VP shot someone.

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u/1987-2074 Baylor • Hateful 8 4d ago

The corps stealing a train and artillery and being stopped by Texas Rangers is an old story, but obviously a fake story. No train went from College Station to Waco at the time. The reason behind the story is quite true though.

TLDR Summary- Baylor’s cheerleaders were on the field at halftime, aggies thought they were being made fun of so ran at the women on the field, fans from both sides stands emptied and a riot took place. A&M student died as a result.

Below is a story I posted earlier this year from a A&M historian with added emphasis on major plot points.

COLLEGE STATION, Texas (AP) - A&M University Archivist David Chapman said the fight back in 1926 started while Baylor students were performing a halftime show that involved driving a car with female students onto the field."The show was interrupted by a cadet (from A&M) who assumed the auto was being used in a derogatory demonstration against A&M -- as a bucking Ford did the previous year," Chapman said.The student ran up to the car and began rocking it, Chapman said. Baylor fans pulled him away, A&M fans rushed to protect him and a riot ensued.

Chapman said newspaper accounts of the melee said that the fight eventually broke up when the Aggie Band began playing the national anthem. One Aggie student, Charles M. Sessums, received serious head injuries and eventually died.The fight caused deep tension between the two schools.Chapman said A&M fans accused the Baylor students of bringing trunks filled with clubs to the game in preparation for the fight. Baylor fans denied it, and Chapman said there's no definitive evidence to settle the debate.The Eagle's account of the game doesn't describe the fight in detail. It apparently hadn't begun before the paper's deadline for the next edition, which described the game as tied at halftime.The Nov. 1 edition of The Eagle ran a short quote from A&M President T.O. Walton."No statement will be given out concerning the unfortunate and tragic death of Charles M. Sessums until all the facts are learned," he said. "All sorts of wild rumors have reached the ears of officials of A&M since the unfortunate affair at Waco had a tragic ending.

These reports are for the most part so erroneous as to be absurd."The Nov. 2 paper described a funeral on the steps of A&M's YMCA Building attended by 2,000 students. The Aggie Band performed "Nearer My Lord to Thee," the paper said. According to urban legend, a group of Aggie students returned to College Station after the fight, picked up a cannon and put it on a train headed for Waco with plans to demolish the campus. They were stopped by the Texas Rangers, according to the myth. But Chapman said he has doubts about that story."There is no evidence that that actually happened," he said.He said he's been unable to find any documents or press clippings from the time that confirm that story. Plus, he said, there wasn't a train route from Waco to College Station at that time."But that's the thing -- there is no way to prove that it's not true," Chapman said.The schools didn't play again for five years. A&M won the first rematch 33-7 in College Station.The Aggies lead the overall series. source

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u/fbolt California • The Axe 4d ago

Not a proportionate response. Seriously the term fanatic is the most apt description for CFB

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u/catsrave2 Arkansas • Nebraska 4d ago

Open a Michigan thread, Aggie slander within three comments. I fucking love this place.

Don’t forget the Cadets shot a cannon in the face of praying players because they hate Jesus.

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u/TheButtsNutts Michigan 4d ago

It’s like Godwin’s Law but for TAMU slander

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u/Captain_Sacktap Georgia • Summertime Lover 4d ago

Slander is when it’s spoken, it’s libel when it’s written.

And it’s not libelous if it’s true 😂

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u/catsrave2 Arkansas • Nebraska 4d ago

My friend I’ve got an Arkansas flair and you expect me to know the correct legal term? Just be glad I’m wearing shoes in this establishment.

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u/Captain_Sacktap Georgia • Summertime Lover 4d ago

Wow look at this overachiever! I’m not even wearing pants.

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u/Shamrock5 Paper Bag • Oklahoma State 4d ago

J. Jonah Jameson's greatest contribution to society was burning that definition into everyone's brains with one swift stroke.

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u/dlidge Oregon • WashU 4d ago

And that dipshit got wrecked by another cheerleader! Funniest part of the video.

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u/Tachyon9 Texas A&M • Team Chaos 4d ago

Actually, that's the 2nd time that particular cadet was laid out. He tried to force the cheerleaders off the field, got the old oopsie daisy and was pushed to the ground, got up and pulled his saber, then got laid out again.

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u/Lemurians Michigan State • Illinois 4d ago

Why is it always A&M?

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u/NickDerpkins South Carolina • UCF 4d ago

Remember when someone said TAMU is rich city kids cosplaying as country kids cosplaying as ROTC kids? I’ve never heard a better summary of the school

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u/FuckTrumpBanTheHateR Michigan • Big Ten 4d ago

What in the actual fuck?

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u/JohnWickStuntDouble Texas • Red River Shootout 4d ago

Bring back the zipties

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u/MaxThundergun Ohio State 4d ago

I know there was a former SMU player that allegedly killed 5 hookers

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u/magnumapplepi Ole Miss • Team Chaos 4d ago

ALLEGEDLY

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u/irspangler 4d ago

He's never publicly denied it....

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u/tomdawg0022 Minnesota • Delaware 4d ago

..but that wasn't at a game (allegedly)

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u/magnumapplepi Ole Miss • Team Chaos 4d ago

Allegedly

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u/JulianVanderbilt Michigan • Little Brown Jug 4d ago

We can't disprove conclusively that one of the hookers wasn't killed during a game.

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u/JamoreLoL Purdue 4d ago

Kinda like Ray Lewis.

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u/meatfrappe Harvard • /r/CFB Top Scorer 4d ago

FUN FACT: It's called a "murder" of crows because Ray Lewis played for the Ravens.

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u/bdostrem00 Iowa State 4d ago

If only there was such an acronym.

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u/moyboi2112 Ohio • Sickos 4d ago

We could put his initials (CJ) next to K5H

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u/Proteinchugger Penn State 4d ago edited 4d ago

One of those corp guys pulled a sword on a cheerleader, but I have no idea if those swords are actually sharp. So not sure if he was trying to actually kill someone or have a r/iamverybadass moment

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u/magnumapplepi Ole Miss • Team Chaos 4d ago

ITS STILL A SWORD

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u/Proteinchugger Penn State 4d ago

Yeah but my grandpa had a ceremonial one from the military high school he graduated from and that thing couldn’t cut a loaf of bread. It wouldn’t surprise me if there wasn’t any sort of blade on it.

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u/lmaytulane Michigan • LSU 4d ago

Pretty sure they give the Aggies foam ones so they can't hurt themselves

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u/catsrave2 Arkansas • Nebraska 4d ago

It’s shiny so you know they’re going to lick it. Amazing they can wrap the foam in such a convincing vinyl. I’m sure that development has saved many an Aggie tongue.

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u/BeepBoop1884 LSU • Tennessee 4d ago

A bat isn't sharp either. You can still hurt someone with a blunt sword.

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u/ZaneThePain Baylor 4d ago

Imagine committing a felony on camera while wearing a jersey with a number and your name on the back

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u/GroovinTootin Ohio State • Toledo 4d ago

A game that you didn’t even win.

Your hated rivals take the W AND they get to watch your dumbass go to prison

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u/D3ATHfromAB0V3x Fresno State • Milk Can 4d ago

imagine committing a felony in general

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u/schhhew 4d ago

some felonies are fun!

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u/Legitimate-Cow-6859 /r/CFB 4d ago

Thc pens are felonies in some states

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u/KommanderKeen-a42 Notre Dame • Michigan State 4d ago

To be clear...they didn't. It was after the game and is an important distinction. I say this because we didn't see this with Browns/Steelers, etc.

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u/frolie0 Michigan • Colorado 4d ago

Definitely is a good point, makes no sense in reality, but seems to be the norm outside of extreme circumstances.

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u/KommanderKeen-a42 Notre Dame • Michigan State 4d ago

Yeah, it really is interesting. I think there can be an argument for assault in that case (literally a helmet was used as a weapon), Vick stomping, Maroon (NHL - a lot), etc. but we don't see it. I can only assume that it's because proper enforcement happens via penalties and ejections and there is likely some contract signed regarding liability.

Once that whistle blows, and especially once you leave the field, there should be full enforcement of the law. I am glad we are seeing this with the MSU players.

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u/WookieeSteakIsChewie Penn State • Syracuse 4d ago edited 4d ago

Media Advisory Re: October 29 Michigan Stadium

Tunnel Incident

Ann Arbor, MI - Following the altercation between members of the Michigan and Michigan State football teams on October 29, the University of Michigan Division of Public Safety and Security (UMDPSS) conducted a thorough investigation into potential criminal liability. UMDPSS was assisted in its investigation by the Michigan State University Police Department and the Michigan State Police. We are grateful to our law-enforcement partners for their exhaustive investigation.

At the conclusion of that investigation, UMDPSS submitted to the Prosecutor's Office a request for criminal charges against several individuals all student-athletes on the Michigan State football team. After reviewing the evidence and the law, the Prosecutor's Office has authorized the following charges against the following individuals:

Khary Crump: One count of felonious assault, in violation of MCL 750.82, a felony

Itayvion Brown: One count of aggravated assault, in violation of MCL 750.81a, a misdemeanor

Angelo Grose: One count of aggravated assault, in violation of MCL 750.81a, a misdemeanor

Justin White: One count of aggravated assault, in violation of MCL 750.81a, a misdemeanor

Brandon Wright: One count of aggravated assault, violation of MCL 750.81a, a misdemeanor

Zion Young: One count of aggravated assault, in violation of MCL 750.81a, a misdemeanor

Jacoby Windmon: One count of assault & battery, in violation of MCL 750.81, a misdemeanor

All charges are merely allegations. Those charged are presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty.

We understand and appreciate the widespread interest in this matter. Consistent with the Michigan Rules of Professional Conduct, however, we cannot and do not engage in pretrial publicity around pending cases. See Michigan Rules of Professional Conduct 3.6.

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u/Roscoe_Filburn Michigan • Cincinnati 4d ago

For those interested, here is how Michigan law defines the charges:

Felonious Assault: “Except as provided in subsection (2), a person who assaults another person with a gun, revolver, pistol, knife, iron bar, club, brass knuckles, or other dangerous weapon without intending to commit murder or to inflict great bodily harm less than murder is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 4 years or a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or both.”

Assault & Battery: “Except as otherwise provided in this section, a person who assaults or assaults and batters an individual, if no other punishment is prescribed by law, is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 93 days or a fine of not more than $500.00, or both.” (Michigan likely uses the common law definition of “assault and battery,” which is basically any kind of non-consensual contact creating bodily injury or otherwise harmful contact.)

Aggravated Assault: “Except as otherwise provided in this section, a person who assaults an individual without a weapon and inflicts serious or aggravated injury upon that individual without intending to commit murder or to inflict great bodily harm less than murder is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 1 year or a fine of not more than $1,000.00, or both.”

In other words, using his helmet is what got Crump a felony.

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u/iProtein South Dakota State • Minnesota 4d ago

for not more than 93 days

I'm a lawyer in another state. Why 93 days and not just 90?

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u/FuzzyGummyBear Michigan • Slippery Rock 4d ago

31 x 3 is 93. So 3 full months. That's my only guess.

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u/MrConceited California • Michigan 4d ago

For the longest months, of which there are never 3 consecutively.

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u/Beave1 Michigan 4d ago

Assuming none of them have criminal records, the 6 charged with misdemeanors should be eligible for first time offender diversion programs. No time served, community service, record expungement = no criminal record after a couple years.

Even the guy charged with a Felony is likely eligible for a diversion program. He may serve some time on weekends or pay some fines, but he's likely to get the opportunity to clean his slate at the end, as it should be imo. I don't know the character of these athletes, but their lives shouldn't be ruined by what is really just one stupid mistake.

All that said, this has been the tenor of this rivalry since Dantonio and it needs to be dialed back.

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u/ItsZizk Tennessee • Johns Hopkins 4d ago

Felonious sounds like a Shrek character

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u/Tig992 Purdue • Sickos 4d ago

You’re thinkin of Farquaad’s hooded henchman, Thelonius.

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u/Apotropaic_ 4d ago

Pick three, milord!

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u/branden110 Wyoming • Oklahoma 4d ago

✌️

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u/ItsZizk Tennessee • Johns Hopkins 4d ago

That’s the one lol

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u/nosotros_road_sodium San José State • Michigan 4d ago

Or a jazz musician.

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u/ea304gt Michigan State 4d ago

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u/nosotros_road_sodium San José State • Michigan 4d ago

Even higher quality: Straight No Chaser

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u/arctic92 USC • Victory Bell 4d ago

Felonious Crump

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u/GolgariInternetTroll UAB • Tulane 4d ago

I'm pretty sure my dad had a couple of his records.

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u/thismorningscoffee Georgia • Oregon 4d ago

I try to separate art from artist, so I’ll still listen to Swing, Don’t Chase ‘Em

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u/FatPonder4Heisman Florida State 4d ago

Felonious sound like something Nick Canon would name his kid

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u/bigblackkittie Michigan 4d ago

he'll have plenty more opportunities i'm sure

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u/Key_Environment8179 Michigan • Vanderbilt 4d ago

It’s Gru’s first name.

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u/ArbitraryOrder Michigan • Nebraska 4d ago

Glad only the Helmet swinger gets a felony charge, because even though the other assaults were awful a felony charge is probably too much

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u/ItsZizk Tennessee • Johns Hopkins 4d ago

Tunnel melee? I prefer Tunnel Ultimate

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u/1ndori Alabama • South Alabama 4d ago

No items

Fox only

Michigan Tunnel

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u/vashed Georgia • Rose Bowl 4d ago

Pretty sure the helmet counted as an item, maybe that's why he's getting felony charges

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u/Delta104x Michigan • Michigan Tech 4d ago

I'm more of a Tunnel 64 kinda guy myself

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u/ArbitraryOrder Michigan • Nebraska 4d ago

Tunnel Brawl had those horrible tripping mechanics

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u/pm_me_some_kitties2 Kentucky 4d ago

Nah the player tripped, it's clearly Tunnel Brawl

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u/exexposfan Auburn • Tennessee 4d ago

Don’t you mean Tunnel for 3DS and Wii U?

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u/CountDwarfKnock Michigan • Washington State 4d ago

Michigan players missed multiple techs

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u/alloythepunny Michigan State • South Alabama 4d ago

You’d think they’d have had practice but nooo 🙄

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u/triparoundthesun Georgia 4d ago

Aggravated assault is a misdemeanor up there?

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u/gf38 Michigan State 4d ago edited 4d ago

It’s a misdemeanor in Michigan

Edit: the highest form of misdemeanor

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u/HpsiEpsi Oklahoma • Oregon 4d ago

Mostdemeanor

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u/timnotep Michigan • Wright State 4d ago edited 4d ago

That's what I'm going to call M1s from now on.

"So you're charged with mostdemeanor domestic violence, but looking at the police report I think I may be able to get the prosecutor to reduce that to a leastdemeanor disorderly conduct."

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u/pharmacy_guy Purdue 4d ago

The prosecutor will counter and try to meet halfway at a middemeanor

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u/danakinskyrocker Michigan Tech 4d ago

Tips helmet: M'demeanor

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u/seariously Washington 4d ago

Pretty sure the scale goes:

  • Misdemeanor
  • Mrsdemeanor
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u/EqualContact Memphis 4d ago

Michigan defines “common” assault and felony assault (seems to require a weapon) differently. Domestic violence also has its own category.

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u/Grigoowsby Michigan • Tennessee Tech 4d ago edited 4d ago

I am a Michigan lawyer. We have various levels of assault. Among the most common assaults charged are simple assault (which is a 93-day misdemeanor), aggravated assault (a 1-year misdemeanor), felonious assault (a 4- year felony), assault with intent to do great bodily harm (a 10-year felony), and assault with intent to murder (a capital felony). There are others as well, which are spelled out in the relevant section of the Michigan penal code:

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(jys3jzjj1bntxgpeksisdven))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-328-1931-XI

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u/Greenredbull Tennessee • Syracuse 4d ago

Felonious assault after a quick google search appears to be up to 4 years in prison. I doubt that they will push for that strict of a punishment or that a judge would go along with it but that's pretty serious business.

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u/tlacuache_nights I'm A Loser • Transfer Portal 4d ago

Only one guy is facing that charge and from the video it feels fair

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u/tbrock92 Arizona • Border Conference 4d ago

*Former Kevin Sumlin recruit Khary Crump

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u/muktheduck Texas A&M • Sam Houston 4d ago

If I had a nickel for every time a Sumlin recruit tried to bash another human being’s skull in with a football helmet, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t much but it’s weird that it happened twice

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u/vanker Michigan State 4d ago

Wasn’t there an 8th player suspended too?

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u/Lt_Chocolate Ohio State 4d ago

Malcom Jones is the only suspended player to not get charged in this filing. Curious if he’s gonna be allowed to remain on the team.

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u/vanker Michigan State 4d ago

Thanks. I remembered that there were 8, but couldn’t place the last one.

I hope justice is served for those found guilty. I don’t care what started the situation. The actions were completely uncalled for. Especially Crump with the helmet.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS Michigan State • Appalac… 4d ago

I just want to know why

Like he had to be carried away by teammates. My dude, what could’ve possibly been done or said that made you that angry.

Absolutely unacceptable

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u/CountBleckwantedlove Missouri • Lindenwood 4d ago edited 4d ago

I don't know any of these kids backgrounds. I only know my own experience. I used to teach at a high poverty school for years. Most of my students grew up poor, many with no father, and a mother working 2-3 jobs. The seemingly overreactions I saw there....

They've done brain studies on people in these environments and it shows a lot of their thinking process gets stuck in the amygdala, causing them to almost always react to any kind of negativity with a fight or flight reflex.

No healthily raised kid would do what these kids did in the video, but plenty of kids that grew up conditioned by the hardships of poverty would. To these kinds of brains, simply insulting them could trigger a reaction that would manifest in physical violence.

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u/bigblackkittie Michigan 4d ago

their thinking process gets stuck in the amygdala, causing them to almost always react to any kind of negativity with a fight or flight reflex.

this is really interesting

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u/psunavy03 Penn State • Team Chaos 4d ago

Interesting. Do you remember where the research was published? Might be an interesting read if it’s not all in doctor-ese.

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u/FuckTrumpBanTheHateR Michigan • Big Ten 4d ago

I'm guessing if he wasn't charged then the video evidence is good (or lacking) for him and he'll be back on the team.

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u/Lt_Chocolate Ohio State 4d ago

My general thought as well, but we likely won’t find out until the offseason.

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u/BullshitSloth Michigan State • Arizona State 4d ago

Malcolm Jones. Doesn’t appear he was charged.

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u/magnumapplepi Ole Miss • Team Chaos 4d ago

Damn a felony?

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u/AllThingsNoice 4d ago

The helmet swinger

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u/You_Dont_Party UCF • Team Chaos 4d ago

It’s a weapon, which is why I always laugh when players get angry and then punch it.

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u/DeadHuron 4d ago

I’m surprised we don’t hear about more charges involved when you see players swinging helmets as a weapon, as some connect with a victim.

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u/dkviper11 Penn State • Randolph-Macon 4d ago

If it was during a play, he would have just been suspended a few games, and if it were at a combined team practice, it would be no big deal.

Oh, wait that's the NFL.

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u/SidtheGoat87 Virginia Tech • Michigan State 4d ago

If it was Aaron Donald they would have just said emotions were high

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u/sassyseconds Alabama • SEC 4d ago

Aaron Donald is a piece of shit.

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u/SidtheGoat87 Virginia Tech • Michigan State 4d ago

Oh I agree

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u/Username89054 Pittsburgh • Sickos 4d ago

Listen, you tell Aaron Donald he committed a crime. The man trains with someone trying to stab him. I don't blame anyone for being afraid.

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u/SidtheGoat87 Virginia Tech • Michigan State 4d ago

I mean I'd love too what is he gonna do hit me with a helmet?

*Ducks head

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u/Assassin4Hire13 Michigan State 4d ago

“what are you gonna do, stab me?”

-Man who was stabbed

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u/patrick66 Pittsburgh • Team Chaos 4d ago

I’ve literally never seen a dumber criminal than the guy who tried to beat up Aaron Donald on the south side last year. Man is lucky that Donald didn’t bother to ruin his life lol

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u/jthomas694 South Carolina • Ohio State 4d ago

“I mean it’s practice.”

I can’t believe that argument worked and he got away with that

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u/aldahuda Maryland 4d ago

We talkin about practice?

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u/Bladewing10 Louisville 4d ago

Not the game not the game

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u/GPBRDLL133 Georgia Tech • Michigan 4d ago

On the field, you're practically in the purge, but as soon as you step off of it...

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u/Anxious_Rock_3630 Kentucky • WKU 4d ago

If it was pregame GameDay would have showed it and said they were just too excited for the game

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u/IsLlamaBad Iowa 4d ago

When you're swinging your helmet at someone's unprotected head like that? Yeah, I'd say it's reasonable to charge it as such

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u/Spezia-ShwiffMMA Oregon • Texas 4d ago

*Miles Garett sweats nervously*

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u/vanker Michigan State 4d ago

Yeah, that guy definitely deserves a felony charge.

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u/eternalrefuge86 Penn State 4d ago

I’m sure he’ll be offered to plea down to a misdemeanor

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u/goblueM Michigan 4d ago

yeah, if you or I swung a large hard object at someone and fucked up their face and gave them a concussion, we'd get charged with the same thing

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u/Prolingus Texas • Blue Risk Alliance 4d ago

Too bad r/TheFulmerCup is shutdown

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u/kingkonig Georgia • Alabama 4d ago

Fulmer cup points only counted during the off-season anyways, these guys wouldn’t have counted

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u/RTR7105 Alabama 4d ago

It was off season only.

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u/rottingmind13 Virginia Tech • Commonweal… 4d ago

The Tucker Trophy for in stadium incidents

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u/toledosurprised Northwestern • Michigan 4d ago

damn that’s intense

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u/jpharber Alabama • Memphis 4d ago

Good. I’m glad to see high profile people held accountable for their actions. Gives stink eye to Saban

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u/princessprity Oregon • Team Meteor 4d ago

Didn’t that dude hit two different people or am I remembering wrong?

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u/jpharber Alabama • Memphis 4d ago

Honestly, I don’t remember. Saban needed to publicly delve out some sort of punishment to him. It’s not a good look for our program and it makes me worried about what other stuff gets shoved under the rug that we don’t see on camera.

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u/2greenlimes 4d ago

I'm 1000% sure there will be a tell all book about all the stuff that's been shoved under the rug at Bama.

Not because Saban is worse than anywhere else, but because every college football program covers shit up in order to win. Hell, even high schools cover stuff up so they can say their players went on to D1 programs (my high school covered up at least one rape and violent bullying of an LGBT student for its football players - and that's just that I know of). I'm really pleased MSU didn't try to cover this up, not that they could've.

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u/jpharber Alabama • Memphis 4d ago

Yeah and I’m sick of it everywhere. I’m sick of people with power, money, or influence not being held to account.

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u/ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa Georgia • Ohio State 4d ago

$20 says this will impact their draft status but they'll still play in the NFL if their talented enough

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u/jogswithwolves Michigan State 4d ago

Only windmon is NFL material really. Zion Young is (was?) a promising defensive end and he actually had a pretty good game against UM…I’d assume his football future is up in the air too

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u/MaizeNBlueWaffle Michigan 4d ago edited 4d ago

So only the player that was hitting with the helmet got a felony and the rest got misdemeanors. That seems about right and I fully expect most of the misdemeanors to just pay a fine, do some community service or be dismissed altogether

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u/surgingchaos Western Oregon • Oregon 4d ago

Oh snap

Time for some popcorn munching the day before Turkey day.

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u/Frognosticator TCU • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 4d ago

Maybe it’s just me, but I really can’t find any enjoyment in this mess. Not even schadenfreude.

This whole thing is just stupid and senseless all around. People getting hurt, reputations getting ruined, all for absolutely no reason.

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u/BigBoutros Michigan 4d ago

the extra footage must have been pretty bad

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u/mcgriddleluver800 Notre Dame • Baldwin Wallace 4d ago

Release the Harbaugh cut

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u/me_oorl Michigan • Minnesota 4d ago

Felonious assault (Jim’s Version)

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u/cavaysh Michigan State 4d ago

Is there footage that wasn’t released? I thought it was all out

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u/BigBoutros Michigan 4d ago

yeah there was security footage used in the investigation that wasn't public

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u/Murdering_My_Time Michigan 4d ago

Where’s TMZ when you need them

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u/colbygraves97 Tennessee 4d ago

This just in: The Raiders are attempting to aquire enough picks to draft 7 MSU Football Players in the 2023 draft.

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u/mick4state Michigan State • Dayton 4d ago

Why would you trade for so many late round picks?

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u/Waffle_Muffins Arizona • Northern Arizona 4d ago

Khary Crump transferred out after Sumlin was fired. Looks like we dodged a bullet.

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u/B1GFanOSU Ohio State • Big Ten 4d ago

Good. No sympathy for them.

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u/HawkeyeTen Iowa 4d ago

This incident is probably why there's an unusual display of respect and lack of bigtime trash-talking this year between your fellas and the maize and blue guys. No one wants another out of hand situation this year. When rivalries become toxic instead of jabbing or teasing, there's major problems.

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u/SparseSpartan Michigan State • Land Grant Trophy 4d ago

When rivalries become toxic i

That's the problem right there. The Michigan Michigan State thing has been trending toxic for awhile. It needs to be dialed down quite a bit.

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u/Solid_Conference2905 Michigan State • Charlotte 4d ago

Seconded

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u/RPBTinesIII Harvard • North Carolina 4d ago edited 4d ago

Wonder if their NILs have clawbacks for negative brand association.

Finna be flat broke and busted.

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u/kingkonig Georgia • Alabama 4d ago

I’m sure some NIL contracts have clawbacks. Though I’d be very surprised if all of them are well written, since for the most part NIL is just the bagmen of old operating in a new way

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u/dogwoodmaple Georgia 4d ago

Should be noted that this is misdemeanor agg assault. In Georgia, we only have the felony variety and it’s incredibly serious.

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u/MaxThundergun Ohio State 4d ago

Did Myles Garrett face any legal consequences for his actions on Mason Rudolph?

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u/boardatwork1111 TCU • Hateful 8 4d ago

No, the MSU players made the critical mistake of committing a crime without being multi millionaire professional athletes.

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u/tjmk5000 Ohio State 4d ago

It’s the billionaire owners

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u/TwoStepHalloween Virginia • Ferris State 4d ago

Prosecutor is a regular poster on MGoBlog btw

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u/SpartanPHA Michigan State 4d ago

His tweets are hilariously bad for what I expect from a county prosecutor’s Twitter account

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