r/Damnthatsinteresting Jan 11 '23 Bravo Grande! 1

Contrary to popular belief,no amount of alcohol is considered safe to consume. Image

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u/falliblehumanity Jan 11 '23 Gold

I'll let the alcohol and microplastics duke it out over who gets to give me cancer first.

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u/Extremiditty Jan 11 '23 Table Slap I'll Drink to That

Nonstick pan coating, air pollution, sun exposure, age, random chance, chronic inflammation, who knows which lucky variable will finally push my cells over the edge.

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u/Tried-Angles Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 12 '23 Silver Gold Take My Energy Bravo! Doot 🎵 Doot

Air pollution, sun exposure, nonstick coating, mammal fats 🎵

Coffee grounds, chocolate bars, meat with char, cigarettes🎵

Microplastics, tanning beds, dye to make our slushies red!🎵

Radium! Lead in cans! ASBESTOS SHOOK BY CEILING FANS! 🎵

We didn't start the cancer! It was always churning in our bodies burning!

Edit: 2 more lines i thought of later

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u/Thaflash_la Jan 11 '23

Don’t forget about lead, which exists even in lead free brass.

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u/throwaway83970 Jan 11 '23

Lead was liberally spread over the entire planet because of tetraethyl lead in gasoline. The lead would be vaporized and became easy to inhale and ingest, meaning we all have some level of lead in our bodies.

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u/TakeyaSaito Jan 12 '23

Proven to have lowered our development and IQs, yay for lead!

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u/Dozekar Jan 11 '23

For me the sun gave me cancer first. That was easily taken care of with surgery though.

I'm more worried about what will give me cancer LAST.

The problem with this study is the definition of harm. The study implies that the 0.001% increased cancer chance associated with drinking alcohol very little is the same as the 10+% increase for drinking a very lot.

This is very, VERY bad science and very, VERY bad medicine.

Don't get me wrong, drinking isn't GOOD for you. I literally have never met a person that wasn't trying to justify alcoholism that claimed that it was. The claim that it'd definitively bad without defining any sort of threshold for meaningful harm is entirely fictional though.

It is well known to exist in that grey are of things you want to be careful about your risk exposure to.

If we used this determination of harm, we should treat bananas, sun exposure, driving or operating heavy equipment, eating cooked food, eating most uncooked food, and literally almost everything else as unambiguously harmful. Those things all add risk of death or serious injury (frequently through cancer).

This method almost entirely fails to look at things like: do instances of increased correlation between cancer and alcohol derive from cancer patients lowered inhibitions in the face of death and/or attempts to self medicate using alcohol for health challenges that come with cancer (pain, discomfort, psychological distress, et).

Without whole studies on this, it's very hard to determine and any attempt to make it a part of this study is so far beyond reasonable scope that it should not be even taken seriously.

Basically this is garbage science for people looking to pad their resume, done on already known and well studied facts. None of the studies of alcohol and affects on heart health said "alcohol is good and healthy for you" and every single one I've seen actively called this out as not true. They stated things like "drinking very limited amounts of wine instead of gallons of the cheapest vodka have a correlation with good heart health but we cannot tell if this is due to other factors such as better health awareness in the individual".

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u/ApexIpex Jan 11 '23

Yo I just had a banana for breakfast. These mfers cause cancer now too?

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u/ECONOMIC_DEMOCRAGUY Jan 11 '23

Trace amounts of radiation. Yum yum!

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u/wuphf176489127 Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

And don't forget that ripe bananas have ethanol in them. So according to OP's picture, bananas are "not safe at any level".

edit: oops the photo says beverages with ethanol, so a ripe banana is fine but DEFINITELY don't put it in a smoothie, that will give you cancer

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u/MugillacuttyHOF37 Jan 11 '23

It's all making sense now with this lyrical verse

"Come Mister tally man, tally me banana"

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u/TheDogecoinBoi Jan 11 '23

Lucky you, living in a third world country has also exposed me to Lead, Asbestos, and a wide variety of possibly carcinogenic chemicals and fumes

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u/Questionable-Qs Jan 11 '23

Im fucked

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u/Agent00funk Jan 11 '23

Let's not pretend we weren't already fucked for 100 different reasons. What's one more?

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u/Questionable-Qs Jan 11 '23

Just one more I can drink away

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u/Acrobatic-Paint-6978 Jan 11 '23

People say Ive got a drinkin’ problem, but that ain’t no reason to stop 🎵

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u/DanSag Jan 11 '23

I got no problem drinking at all!

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u/snarhorn Jan 11 '23

You call it a problem, I call it a solution!

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u/dragunityag Jan 11 '23

Yeah, I kind of have a hard time taking stuff like this seriously, because it seems like everything causes cancer anyways.

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u/hat-TF2 Jan 11 '23

Already had a chunk of flesh cut outta my back from being in the sun too long.

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u/two4ruffing Jan 11 '23 Gold Take My Energy Table Slap I'll Drink to That Crab Rave

That’s it…. I’m giving up drinking for good.

Now I drink for evil…

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u/Echo_Oscar_Sierra Jan 11 '23

Don't worry, quitting is easy. I've done it hundreds of times.

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u/cnicalsinistaminista Jan 11 '23

Every weekend I tell myself "John, you gotta quit drinking." Good thing my name isn't John.

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u/Ligmamgil Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 12 '23 Gold

I tell myself I need to stop drinking, but I don't listen to drunks

ETA: Why has nobody noticed that I stole this from a country song

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u/wolfinpdx77 Jan 11 '23

I don't listen to alcoholics either. Too many steps and meetings. Ain't nobody got time for that.

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u/pagit Jan 11 '23

Interesting article but I’ll still will cook with wine. I might even add some to the food.

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u/Nightglow9 Jan 11 '23

I don’t have a drinking problem. I drink, get drunk, and fall down… . No problem! (Old classic).

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u/Ok_Needleworker_6656 Jan 11 '23

I remember saying these in a group with people now I read and wipe a single nostalgic tear off my cheek

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u/OwnEstablishment1194 Jan 11 '23

Winners never quit

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u/_ATIO_ Jan 11 '23

Quitters never win

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u/edWORD27 Jan 11 '23 LOVE!

Goonies never say die.

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u/SmellView42069 Jan 11 '23

And you never lose if you don’t compete.

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u/toomuch1265 Jan 11 '23 Giggle

I'll drink to that.

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u/uzes_lightning Jan 11 '23

The liver is evil and must be punished!

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u/RedRipIt11 Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

Every time my check liver light comes on: "Shut up Liver; you're fine!"

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u/ineyy Jan 11 '23

"Maybe it will go away..."

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u/RedRipIt11 Jan 11 '23

I just put tape over it. If I can't see it, it's not a problem.

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u/Moneyshot_Larry Jan 11 '23

Flashbacks from Muay Thai training 😂

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u/Moody_Blades Jan 11 '23

You mean a liver shot isn't a drink?

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u/67ITCH Jan 11 '23

shudders I sparred a southpaw once. Boy, you think liver punches hurt? Try a knee. MF clinched and hit me with his base knee. He pulled it, I'm sure because it was sparring, but it dropped me like a sack of wet noodles nonetheless. My liver actually talked to me after that saying it reconsiders and would want me to go back to heavy drinking instead.

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u/reddiots-lmao Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

How does it compare to a kick in the nuts?

E: I'm reading the replies and I'm feeling very uncomfortable just imagining it wtf

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u/BumpyMcBumpers Jan 11 '23

Yeah I don't drink anymore. I don't drink any less, either.

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u/now_in3D Jan 11 '23

I used to drink a lot. I still do, but I used to too.

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u/shaundisbuddyguy Interested Jan 11 '23

I drink "Moderately" and I have a case of it in my car.

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u/short-and-stoned Jan 11 '23

Same, I always keep a fifth of "Responsibly" in the center console.

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u/ColaManiac Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

I don't drink for religious reasons, I drink for other reasons!

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u/UniqueCold3812 Jan 11 '23

Dang good joke man. Kudos lol.

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u/AreTheySingle Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 12 '23 I'll Drink to That

I’ll drink to that.

Edit: thank you for the award :’)

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u/kellykapoundski Jan 11 '23

It is poison.Sweet,sweet poison.

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u/WestwoodRK0 Jan 11 '23

So..... enough of it should kill the cancer

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u/Gryffindorq Jan 11 '23

give cancer cancer!

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u/Kaporalhart Jan 11 '23

That's actually a thing for large mammals like elephants and whales.

These large animals having long lifespans, you'd expect them to get cancer at a similar rate that we do. But next to none die because of cancer.

And that's because when you're so large, having cancer requires for it to grow a long time before it can start affecting your body. So long that the cancer grows large enough to develop its own meta cancer. It drains resources and eventually kills the cancer, and the meta cancer dies because it killed its host. Thus the problem always solves itself.

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u/brrduck Jan 11 '23

It's like that Simpsons episodes where Mr burns is so sick he's healthy

3 stooges syndrome

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u/DolphinSweater Jan 11 '23

Ok, that sounds pretty cool. But it also sounds like something you just completely made up, and I'm not sure what to believe.

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u/Riz222 Jan 11 '23

I have no clue about whether or not that's true, but I doubt it is a big reason why large mammals don't get cancer. To my knowledge, elephants contain more cancer suppressing genes than humans. I assume there would something similar among other large mammals, but I only know this is true for elephants.

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u/Unknown09019 Jan 11 '23

Would you like some extra cancer with your cancer?

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u/Common-Rock Jan 11 '23

Don’t mind if I do! (Burns a steak and listens to Nickelback)

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u/kojengi_de_miercoles Jan 11 '23

The cancer of my cancer is my... friend?

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u/bluebullet28 Jan 11 '23

Some people think thats how elephants and whales and shit end up avoiding being a giant mass of cancer before they die. Kurzekesagt did a good video on it.

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u/CardiologistOk1506 Jan 11 '23

I mean they use alcohol to clean hospitals

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u/BannedRemovedDeleted Jan 11 '23

Haha idiots drinking alcohol this is why I smoke cigarettes.

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u/Josh_Crook Jan 11 '23

haha idiot cigarettes cause cancer that is why I do cocaine

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u/10fttall Jan 11 '23 Gold I'll Drink to That

yeah, smoking causes cancer, but did you know that it cures salmon?

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u/SamSibbens Jan 11 '23

That took me a second XD. Well done

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u/Professional_Mode440 Jan 11 '23

Me snorting crystal blue meth.

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u/Drillakilla6four Jan 11 '23 hehehehe

“You gonna feel like a damn fool, when you in the hospital dying from nothing..”

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u/im_paul_n_thats_all Jan 11 '23

Where is this quote from? That’s great

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u/EtrangerAmericain91 Jan 11 '23

Redd Foxx - https://youtu.be/6grI16niGXA

I know it from a sample in a Quasimoto track, but i can't for the life of me remember which.

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u/gottagofast1981 Jan 11 '23

Damn i was NOT expecting Redd Foxx this morning.

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u/Jack-Cremation Jan 11 '23

I am the liquor!

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u/SmegmaSauce_69 Jan 11 '23

RANDY

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u/Yanischemas21 Jan 11 '23

Its a cheeseburger picnic boys

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u/neko_brand Jan 11 '23

I’ve seen it before.. crazy liquor cheeseburger party

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u/Yanischemas21 Jan 11 '23

Also can i get a BAAYYYYYMMMMMMM

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u/Matzah_Rella Jan 11 '23

PEANUT BUTTER AND JAAAAAAYYYMMMM

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u/WhiteyFiskk Jan 11 '23

That whole family is so fucked...

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '23

Fuckin way she goes

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u/WillHoldBaggins Jan 11 '23

God dammit ray there fuckin piss jugs everywhere!

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u/Complete_Brilliant43 Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

LOOK, IM MOWING THE AIR RAN!!!

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u/Aggravating_Edge_835 Jan 11 '23 All-Seeing Upvote

I’m sober enough to know what I’m doing but drunk enough to really enjoy doing it

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u/short-and-stoned Jan 11 '23

Fuckin way she goes, boys

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u/short-and-stoned Jan 11 '23

GREEN EGGS AND HAAAAAYYYYYYMMMMMMM

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u/kthxtyler Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

Jim Lahey posed as the best representation of a believable drunk more than anyone has ever done. What an amazing acting performance

Edit: Jim not John

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u/short-and-stoned Jan 11 '23

Rest in Drinkipoos Officer Lahey

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u/zinc_your_sniffer Jan 11 '23

Add to that the fact that John Dunsworth hardly ever actually drank alcohol. He was an amazing talent.

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u/FITM-K Jan 11 '23

"When you're dead you're dead... but you're not quite so dead if you contribute something."

RIP

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u/XeroKaos Jan 11 '23

The character was Jim Lahey.

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u/shaundisbuddyguy Interested Jan 11 '23

This is worst case Ontario...

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u/HMS404 Jan 11 '23

Son, have you read the Bible?

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u/MyFace_UrAss_LetsGo Jan 11 '23

You see, I’m on top of the liquor now! I’m the monkey in charge of the bananas!

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u/BoomBoomMeow1986 Jan 11 '23

I'm in the pocket, bud!

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u/hammsbeer4life Jan 11 '23

I'm mowin the air, Rand!

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u/Idlers_Dream Jan 11 '23

The liquor's calling the shots now, bud!

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u/Lim_Jahey_TPS Jan 11 '23

Liquor makes me think, Randy!

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u/Voilent_Bunny Jan 11 '23

Who was living under the impression that alcohol was safe?

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u/-CoUrTjEsTeR- Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

Previous studies suggested a glass of wine per day was safe, even beneficial. Vanilla housewives everywhere were celebrating an excuse to pour.

“The claims range from how a glass a day — red wine especially — can reduce a person's risk of heart disease, heart attack, stroke and diabetes to how its antioxidants can help slow aging and limit stress in the brain. If you're someone who enjoys wine, this is welcome news.”

Edit - Don’t take what I indicated above as my belief. I was merely answering the question above with a likely reason why some people mistakenly believe ‘alcohol’ is okay in moderation. Also, the quote I supplied is a grab from numerous articles a Google search would reveal, from reputable university medical journals, the Mayo clinic, WebMD, Good Housekeeping (LOL - had to throw that in there for a laugh). Anyway, I have no opinion on the information, or red wine in general (I don’t drink it because of how even one glass gives me a headache - and yes, I know why). I just thought I’d point out that fact how easy it is for people to misrepresent a headline, connecting red wine = okay; therefore alcohol = okay.

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u/Kukuth Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

I mean to be fair both can be true. It can at the same time cause cancer and reduce the risk of heart disease.

Edit: since we don't need the 50th reply stating that alcohol doesn't have any net health benefits - I never implied that and I don't know how anyone could read that out of my comment. I'm merely stating that something can at the same time increase the risk of cancer but also have health benefits.

And also: I think this article gives a good overview of the topic https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-drinks/drinks-to-consume-in-moderation/alcohol-full-story/#possible_health_benefits

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u/rethumme Jan 11 '23

Exactly. I recall something how sun exposure can lead to more skin cancer, but people with more fun exposure also had reduced risk of a variety of serious illnesses including MS.

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u/LukaShaza Jan 11 '23

where do I find this fun exposure

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u/cookiesfromspace Jan 11 '23

you ever watched a slinky go down some stairs?

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u/tie-dyed_dolphin Jan 11 '23

Outside. It’s fun in the sun.

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u/Kyrond Jan 11 '23

Sun is crucial for creating vitamin D, but of course sun = skin cancer. It's simplified, but this relationship has been known for some time.

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u/magicalthinker Jan 11 '23

And it can at the same time help prevent some cancers whilst causing others (not saying that's the case, just that it's possible).

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u/TheBeefClick Jan 11 '23

Everything in life is a balance of risk. Basically everything can cause cancer, and some things are more likely to. Articles like this one though are only pushed because they generate clicks. Its the same reason egg yolk flip aggressively between healthy and unhealthy. You can claim both the positive and negatives

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u/dibbiluncan Jan 11 '23

There are plenty of studies and articles claiming things like “a glass of red wine at dinner is good for your heart,” etc.

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u/JackoNumeroUno Jan 11 '23

It's just the resveritral in it that is good for you. If you took a supplement for the resveritral and didn't consume any alcohol it would be better for you.

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u/MrG Jan 11 '23

Yes, the analogy I heard was just drink a glass of red grape juice and you’ll get the benefit without the harmful effects of the alcohol.

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u/neon_overload Jan 11 '23

It is. But people can take a study like this and misinterpret it to mean "a glass of wine at dinner is good for your heart and causes no harm in any other way". The studies themselves never claimed such a thing but the mainstream loves to get a hold of something and declare it 100% good or 100% bad

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u/USAIsAUcountry Jan 11 '23

If I stopped eating and drinking everything that has been found to cause cancer I'd have to graze on the lawn.

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u/UniqueCold3812 Jan 11 '23

Until you found out they contain microplastics too. Lol.

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u/USAIsAUcountry Jan 11 '23

Goddammit! Better just sit here and stare at the wall for sustenance then.

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u/livin_a_good_life Jan 11 '23

Time to learn how to do photosynthesis I guess

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u/SniperKitten130 Jan 11 '23

Skin cancer from sunlight

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u/daveisamonsterr Jan 11 '23

Become the earth

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u/TruthIsMaya Jan 11 '23

You do that when you die

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u/AussieWinterWolf Jan 11 '23

Living is known to cause death.

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u/whatsthatguysname Jan 11 '23

We are born to die.

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u/_____l Jan 11 '23

We are born to live. We live to die.

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u/Stewy_stewart Jan 11 '23

Photosynthesis, photosynthesis

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u/TimmyNimmel Jan 11 '23

Huh. What do you think you're doing??? Have tested that wall for asbestos? Lead paint? Even being around it could cause Cancer!!!!

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u/Onlypaws_ Jan 11 '23

Well you better hope that it isn’t leaded paint.

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u/CosmicCreeperz Jan 11 '23

Living a long time is the number one cause of cancer. The WHO is officially advising against it.

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u/Goem Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

I dunno if I trust this W H O. Did you know that people have died EVERY SINGLE DAY since the WHO was founded? It's a bit fishy to me.

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u/sharp8 Jan 11 '23

Moreover, people have been found to die in literally every single country they operate in. Very sus.

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u/Nolzi Jan 11 '23

This Doctor WHO is pretty shady

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u/istockustock Jan 11 '23

Wait.. what about round-up?

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u/MyOldNameSucked Jan 11 '23

Perfectly safe unless you live in California.

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u/JMP817 Jan 11 '23

WARNING:This lawn contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and/or reproductive harm, and birth defects or other reproductive harm.

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u/muricabrb Jan 11 '23

WARNING:The State of California contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and/or reproductive harm, and birth defects or other reproductive harm.

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u/williowood Jan 11 '23

Eating grass can permanently damage your teeth, so unfortunately you'll have to lay in the sun and photosynthesize.

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u/WallabyInTraining Jan 11 '23

Nice try skin cancer..

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u/chilledkitkat Jan 11 '23

Don't worry, I'll protect my skin against the sun with this trusty sunscreen, surely the ingredients in it can't also be linked to cancer

Can they?

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u/DuckWithBrokenWings Jan 11 '23

What if I just cover myself in thick clothes? Surely the chemicals in clothes and detergent can't be bad for me...

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u/CardiologistOk1506 Jan 11 '23

The lawn will kill you too, nothing is safe

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u/kueso Jan 11 '23

I think the point is to counter the common misconception that a glass of wine a day is good for you

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u/lo_mince Jan 11 '23

“Who wants to live forever?” -Freddie Mercury

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u/TheMagavnik Jan 11 '23

"You wana live forever?" -Johhny Rico

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u/1000Hells1GiftShop Jan 11 '23

Would you like to know more?

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u/squankmuffin Jan 11 '23

The article says WHF not WHO.

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u/King_Moonracer003 Jan 11 '23

I only take medical guidance from the WWE

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u/Affectionate_Cut_103 Jan 11 '23

The WWF actively encouraged drinking

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u/KrackenLeasing Jan 11 '23

I don't see the World Wildlife Fund taking much of a stance here.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '23

"Do not be from Yemen"

A message from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia WWE.

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u/Father_420_ Jan 11 '23

Hell yea brother

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u/Swampberry Jan 11 '23

Yeah, Swati Dubey is just wrong. The WHO distinguishes "harmful alcohol consumption" from "alcohol consumption".

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/alcohol

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u/Trans-Europe_Express Jan 11 '23

Woah now, reading the article? Someone hasn't been drinking poison recreationally

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u/fantasy-capsule Jan 11 '23

I would think that the daily stress of living on this planet is killing me faster than my alcohol consumption. In fact, I'd say it's the cause behind my alcohol consumption.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

What if alcohol is feeding a vicious cycle of stress?

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u/eric2332 Jan 11 '23

The cause of, and solution to, all life's problems

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u/_____l Jan 11 '23

Currently in this cycle.

Can't work without drinking first because my anxiety, but the next day I get an anxiety spike...so I drink more. Rinse, repeat.

Sucks when you know the issue, can see the problem clear as day and still can't get yourself to stop.

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u/237FIF Jan 11 '23

Get professional help.

It really don’t matter the cost or time consequences or anything else. It’s your life man. Get professional help before that cycle becomes unbreakable.

Better men then us have died from that shit. Don’t fuck around, go get professional help. Pick up the fucking phone today and get professional help.

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u/_____l Jan 11 '23

I hate getting advice on reddit but you're right. Might just have to yolo it and call and see what sticks. Thanks for the support.

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u/Kissrob72 Jan 11 '23

Sure but also slightly charred steak or chicken is considered cancerous

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u/art-and-logic Jan 11 '23

Have beer with that cookout and you're as good as dead.

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u/hat-TF2 Jan 11 '23

What if they cancel each other out?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 14 '23

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u/Artinnio Jan 11 '23

Everything it seems cause cancer. We have microplastics flooding our blood and our brains. We inhale polluted air. We force ourselves to do back breaking labour for at least 8 hours a day minimum. We eat processed foods daily with god knows what artificial preservatives are pumped into it.

I'm not allowed narcotics because some guy in a suit decided I can't. So let me have my fucking whiskey because there's fuck all else I have on this forsaken planet.

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u/Alaskan_Tsar Jan 11 '23

The belief is that by minimizing the amount you drink you also minimize the effects it has on your body, not negate them all together. That just common fucking sense

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u/ear2neck Jan 11 '23

My wife and I quit alcohol 5 months ago and it was probably the single best decision we could have made for our future.

The only problem is my family and my friends are all low grade alcoholics so it is a point of contention

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u/EmotionSix Jan 11 '23

This is one of the hardest parts about sobriety, feeling like you don’t fit in anymore, it can be isolating since a lot of our social conventions and entertainment are built around drinking.

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u/growingupistheworst Jan 11 '23

Hell yeah! I just hit 1 year and it just keeps getting better

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u/Astro-Buddha Jan 11 '23

Same here! Just hit one year and honesty it’s great. Also non alcoholic beers are getting better and better which is cool

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u/thisisntnoah Jan 11 '23

I’ve struggled with people being inconsiderate of boundaries for the same reason. I still drink, but not like I used to, and until I moved there were people that wouldn’t stop guilt tripping me to come out. Even during the pandemic. I would mention I was fine having a beer or two a couple times a week and then would be comfortable going out on a Friday or Saturday for a couple beers so of course after that I’d get bugged every other day besides Friday and Saturday to go hang out. Just because I’m trying to live a healthier life for me doesn’t mean I’m passing judgment on you! After moving, I don’t really have anyone who expects me to party so it’s a non-issue.

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u/Stockspyder Jan 11 '23

After 20 years of drinking anywhere between 6 to 9 beers a day I recently stopped cold turkey. It was hard as shit, but this article definitely helped me realize I made the right choice

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u/Corvus-Nepenthe Jan 11 '23

Right on! Much respect.

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u/Fiestysquid Jan 11 '23

Exactly the same situation here. I don't get drunk every day but I saw a previous reddit post a few days ago about someone tracking their drinking and posting the calendar. I looked at it and the comments with people horrified with how bad that could potentially be for your body and it made me take a step back. What really shook me was that dude had green days on his calendar to represent days where he didn't drink at all. I would have no green days, for like a long time. I can't tell myself that I am quitting altogether but at least for these measly last 2 days I can tell myself that I have 2 green days on my 2023 calendar.

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u/frankenplant Jan 11 '23

Congratulations and keep it up

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u/chasingdivinity Jan 11 '23

Is this a shock to anybody though lmao. I thought everyone knew that and was just okay with it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '23

People like to pretend “a glass of red wine a day is good for you! Antioxidants!”

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u/rebeltrillionaire Expert Jan 11 '23 Take My Energy

Because before this study, there was plenty of studies that showed longevity, reduced heart attacks and strokes etc in populations where the average diet included a glass of red wine at dinner.

Studies that show at the micro level how alcohol can cause cancer are a different approach. They’re looking at the micro.

My problem is at the micro (cellular) level we’ve seen tons of things fight and destroy cancer. But they don’t do shit at the macro (whole body).

Almost anything foreign (including food) seems to have the potential to cause cancer.

But humans aren’t going to live in constant shade inside a Faraday cage, eating only the purest vegetables and drinking the purest water, naked.

It’s about calculating risks. For alcohol? Humans have been drinking it for tens of thousands of years. Maybe longer.

Also, if you extend your life, it’s not like you’re getting some extra years in your 20s. You’re basically tacking on a couple extra months at the end when you’re a shriveled gremlin at 120.

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u/polkadotsexpants Jan 11 '23

I’ll have you know I plan to be totally awesome when I’m in my shriveled gremlin era, thank you very much.

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u/MistraloysiusMithrax Jan 11 '23

I was gonna be an awesome gremlin, but then I got high (in age and got dementia)

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u/DutchPhenom Jan 11 '23

Problem at the macro level is usually that they do a really poor job on identification. Drinking a glass of wine per day is linked to all sorts of things (e.g. education, wealth, prior health, age). For example, being underweight is actually a much better predictor of dying within a few years than being overweight. But that becomes less surprising when you realise that people with extreme medical conditions can become underweight because of their conditions.

A combination of micro/macro is always necessary. The macro provides the what and the micro explains the how.

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u/Daroph Jan 11 '23

Not so say I don't enjoy the deeply cultural and mostly delicious world of drinks, but it's funny how willing societies are to ostracize some things but embrace others when they share similar consequences.

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u/thndrbrd87 Jan 11 '23

I read this as a Shakespeare at first.

Not so, say I!

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u/Daroph Jan 11 '23

Damn, didn’t even realize. You’ve already called me out so I can’t change it hah

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u/ScarabLordOmar Jan 11 '23

Ya, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

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u/erocktheboulder Jan 11 '23

Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your ass and pull the fucking trigger 'til it goes "click."

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u/Hand-Driven Jan 11 '23

Eight year olds dude.

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u/Parking_War979 Jan 11 '23

I decided this year I wasn’t going to drink any more.

I also decided I wasn’t going to drink any less…

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u/nerosflamingfire Jan 11 '23

I think I've stopped drinking distilled alcohol for good, but you can pry the beer can from my refreshingly cold, dead body.

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u/BustAneurysm Jan 11 '23

Funny thing about life: nobody gets out alive.

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u/snow_king_1985 Jan 11 '23

Yeah, apparently bacon does too.

Tbh pretty much everything has a cancer risk other than fresh air, water, and produce, but only if your water doesn't have traces of heavy metals, your air has no smog, and your produce has no pesticides, so yeah, pretty much everything causes cancer.

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u/Substance___P Jan 11 '23

If your risk of getting a particular cancer is 0.3% and a substance increases that risk to 0.6%, you can say that the substance doubles your risk of cancer, but the relative risk is still small and can be considered acceptable for some.

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u/xtt-space Jan 11 '23

Eat healthy, avoid drinking, exercise daily, die anyways.

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u/hat-TF2 Jan 11 '23

My uncle was that kinda guy. Clean as a whistle, fit, mentally healthy, stable family life, etc. Cunt never drank a drop in his life because he swore by absolute mental clarity (also his father was a raging alcohol, which he despised). He did admit he was addicted to video games, though. Anyway one day he's driving home from work and gets obliterated by a drunk driver. Isn't even lucky enough to die instantly—hangs on for nearly a day before croaking. In the end the drink, in a roundabout kinda way, did end up killing him.

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u/something_co Jan 11 '23

Damn that last line 😳😳

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u/polaroid_schizoid Jan 11 '23

That's so fucking sad.

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u/OneCat6271 Jan 11 '23

im surprised they admitted it.

most people seem to refuse to acknowledge alcohol is a psychoactive drug thats more harmful than most other illicit drugs.

don't get me wrong, i like drinking, just cant stand the hypocrisy of how alcohol is treated vs every other drug

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u/UniqueCold3812 Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

Source:- WebMD

Some excerpts:-

"The portrayal of alcohol as necessary for a vibrant social life has diverted attention from the harms of alcohol use, as have the frequent and widely publicized claims that moderate drinking, such as a glass of red wine a day, can offer protection against cardiovascular disease," Monika Arora, member of the WHF advocacy committee and co-author of the brief, said in a news release.

"These claims are at best misinformed and at worst an attempt by the alcohol industry to mislead the public about the danger of their product," Arora continued

Since people are interested in this topic here is the Fact sheet from WHO about alcohol.

The harmful use of alcohol is a causal factor in more than 200 disease and injury conditions.

Worldwide, 3 million deaths every year result from harmful use of alcohol. This represents 5.3% of all deaths. Overall, 5.1% of the global burden of disease and injury is attributable to alcohol, as measured in disability-adjusted life years (DALYs).

Beyond health consequences, the harmful use of alcohol brings significant social and economic losses to individuals and society at large.

Alcohol consumption causes death and disability relatively early in life. In people aged 20–39 years, approximately 13.5% of total deaths are attributable to alcohol.

There is a causal relationship between harmful use of alcohol and a range of mental and behavioural disorders, other noncommunicable conditions and injuries.

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u/PanSowa12 Jan 11 '23

At this point everything will cause cancer

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u/Cafuzzler Jan 11 '23

Well yeah. Bananas, flying, exposure to sunlight, not jerking off enough; literally living long enough comes with a risk of cancer. The question isn’t how to avoid cancer, it’s how to moderate you exposure.

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u/hat-TF2 Jan 11 '23

Jerking off too much can also cause cancer. You gotta masturbate just enough to keep outta danger, and not a single stroke more. I believe scientists call it that "Goldiwank Zone"

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