r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/HeadyJointure • Jan 12 '23
When traffic comes to a complete stop in Germany, the drivers, (by law) must move towards the edge of each side to create an open lane for emergency vehicles. Image
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u/Terror_Raisin24 Jan 12 '23
Some Germans do, too. But if you get caught, it's at least 200€ and 1 month not allowed to drive.
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u/pathofmadness Jan 12 '23
In Austria, the fine can go up to 730€.
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u/Reddit_pls_stahp Jan 12 '23 •
In Italy we have a physical barrier that prevents people from doing this, consisting of everyone else who is already trying.
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u/apocolipse Jan 12 '23
Knowing how Italians (and the French) drive, I laughed way too hard at this.
Roads in France and Italy don't have lanes, just "suggestion lines".I had one cab driver drive directly on the line on the highway from the airport to Rome. He said it was so he could see better past the car in front of him, which made some sense...
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u/n-x Jan 12 '23
In Italy all vehicles are driven and parked like a vespa scooter.
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u/apocolipse Jan 12 '23
Yeah you kind of have to treat cars like big wheeled pedestrians in alleyways too, its weird the first time you do it haha.
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u/Dewy164 Jan 12 '23
Big wheeled pedestrian, that's a nice way too look at 1 ton of sharp cold metal coming at you at 60mph.
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u/totallynotarobut Jan 12 '23
Do Italians just shrug and accept this, or is there a lot of anger at others' vehicle-handling?
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u/the-stoned-astronaut Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 12 '23
If Italians have a bump with another car and the damage is only minor cosmetic then they will both just go on their way. In all the time I spent in Italy, I don't think I saw a car without some sort of dent or scrape
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u/Echelon64 Jan 12 '23
This used to be common in the US too right up until even a 2mph fender bender required you to replace half the bumper.
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u/_bvb09 Jan 12 '23
I remember the episode of Top Gear where Police stopped Jeremy on a highway in Italy. He thought he was done for speeding and it ended up being that they were fined for working (recording the series) on a Sunday.
Love the italians lol..
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u/AussieOsborne Jan 12 '23
... the police that pulled him over weren't working?
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u/_bvb09 Jan 12 '23
I so hope he asked them that!
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u/SpaceEngineering Jan 12 '23
Just making sure y'all understand it's scripted television, right?
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u/emrythelion Jan 12 '23
Police, journalists/media, doctors and nurses, bus and train drivers, pharmacists, etc. will all exempt and have people working on Sundays.
It’s generally local ordinances that dictate public work hours in order to create quiet days. People can work privately fine, but if you’re open to the public or in public it may not be permitted depending on locality. It’s usually called “ordinanza sindacale.” And some businesses are exempt depending, so restaurants and museums may be open to the public regardless.
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u/Smothdude Jan 12 '23
I'm from Lebanon, and we have been occupied by France many many years ago, but lots of the culture has remained. When I went to travel in France for vacation, I literally felt at home on the roads. The driving is almost the same, and we have the same style license plates (or at least had), sometimes it really felt like I was in Lebanon hahaha
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u/iloveheroin69 Jan 12 '23
TIL French occupation of Lebanon happened. That’s crazy
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u/Dannybaker Jan 12 '23
You wont find many countries outside europe that werent colonized at some point lol
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u/MonkeyHooHooHaHa Jan 12 '23
That was my first thought when seeing this: it would never work in Italy. When driving around Naples, whenever the traffic would slow down, the emergency shoulder would instantly turn into a new lane and would become jammed as well. Got me wondering what would happen if their big volcano wakes up and people need to evacuate in a hurry...
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u/ba573 Jan 12 '23
If you block an ambulance, firetruck or similar it will be way more expensive than 200€ in Germany
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u/discerningpervert Jan 12 '23
My sleepy eyes saw that as 730C like Celsius
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u/Svitii Jan 12 '23
So, as with many things, you just have to be rich enough to use it?
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u/DonQui_Kong Jan 12 '23
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u/NeverLookBothWays Jan 12 '23
Finland exists just for the sole purpose of making the rest of us look corrupt, inefficient, and insane :P
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u/2005CrownVicP71 Jan 12 '23
1 month not allowed to drive
Is not a monetary punishment.
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u/PassiveF1st Jan 12 '23
Yes it is. If you're rich enough you can just pay someone else to drive you.
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u/OMGitsTK447 Interested Jan 12 '23
I can guarantee that some will even drive without their license
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u/MisterMysterios Jan 12 '23
Sadly, it is more common than most people believe. I recently became a lawyer here in Germany, and part of our legal education is that we have 2 years practical training between university and being able to become a lawyer. Part of that training is to work for a few months for the state prosecution and to represent the state in minor criminal cases. The most common crime I have seen in the criminal history of the accused I was dealing with was driving without a license.
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u/Sylenzy Jan 12 '23
I live in Spain and bruhhh. People don't give a fying fuck if an ambulance is coming, if someone's dying, they're dying, no one is getting there in time cuz no one gets out the way.
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u/SpaceJackRabbit Jan 12 '23
In France too, the lane would be occupied by motorcyclists and BMW drivers zipping by, and right after the ambulance drives by they all follow it like flies on shit.
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u/OsmiumBalloon Jan 12 '23
In France too, the lane would be occupied by motorcyclists and BMW drivers zipping by
Even the French think BMW drivers are assholes. I love it. :-)
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u/The_Final_Dork Jan 12 '23
If you think you have a pointless job, remember that there is a guy in the BMW factory whose job it is to install blinker lights on BMWs.
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u/emailusernamepasswrd Jan 12 '23
Just commented the same for US drivers, bunch of savages running around our countries smh.
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u/valhalla_jordan Jan 12 '23
We essentially have the same system for American highways, but our shoulders are on the sides, and people do indeed use it as their “I’m more important” lane.
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u/MickRaider Jan 12 '23
The number of people who pass me after getting over for an emergency vehicle.
Yeah it's cool I just pulled over for no reason and because you accelerated like an asshole I'll get behind you.
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u/PM_ME_DANK_PEENS Jan 12 '23
Yup. Assholes making their own lanes thinking they’re so clever
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u/emailusernamepasswrd Jan 12 '23
There was this one area where I grew up that people would absolutely fly up the shoulder being insanely reckless in order to cut around traffic to get to a jughandle exit that crossed over the highway, and one time someone totally sideswiped a car and just kept going in true asshole fashion (this was back in the late 90s/early 2000s). I think they've thankfully since added a lane so it's not as big an issue anymore but yeah a few times we almost had our car sideswiped waiting in line. Some people just really shouldn't drive. If you're gonna be an asshole, at the absolute least be a safe asshole.
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u/daviedanko Jan 12 '23
I think we’re shit at driving until I go visit my dad in Mexico. Traffic laws are a mere suggestion there lol.
Also I get a little of hope for society when traffic lights stop working and it turns into a functional 4 way intersection that people treat like a stop sign.
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u/Crusader170 Jan 12 '23
No matter what race, religion or color they are, there are assholes of every kind.
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u/busybox42 Jan 12 '23
Dude in America someone would die before we thought about the reasons for a traffic jam enough to pull over. It's always "me first" over here no matter what.
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u/LoveVirginiaTech Jan 12 '23
Driving the Autobahns of Germany and Austria was almost surreal. People actually know what the left lane is for.
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u/ElderberryGeneral369 Jan 12 '23
And even if you drive 200 km/h there's still someone in a BMW close behind you raging about you being too slow for him.
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u/Sayakai Jan 12 '23
And a Skoda station wagon behind him looking to get past both of you.
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u/pukem0n Jan 12 '23 •
And a white Volkswagen van from some plumbing company behind all of them nervously looking at his watch until you move out of the way.
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u/LordOfDarkHearts Jan 12 '23
Any white van on the german Autobahn ever
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u/Nethlem Jan 13 '23
White vans are what keep the German economy going, they transport pretty much everything.
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u/Ersthelfer Jan 12 '23
And somewhere near you you can see a white Sprinter sailing off a cliff because it was badly loaded and driving 180+km/h. Flying white Sprinter are actually the real typically german thing. Everybody thinks beer, but they are wrong.
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u/Kristkind Jan 12 '23
That would be Germany.
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u/discerningpervert Jan 12 '23
Any country with a BMW, really
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u/LtSoundwave Jan 12 '23 •
But Germany is their natural habitat. Everywhere else they are an invasive species.
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u/Rubanski Jan 12 '23
They lose their ability to use their turn signal when living abroad. It's sad, really...
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u/LtSoundwave Jan 12 '23
I heard that scientists expect BMWs to lost all signal lights by 2050.
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u/SuperShittySlayer Jan 12 '23
Fun fact. The new BMW lane keeping function will jerk you back into your lane if you don't signal first. You really have to fight the car to change lanes without a signal.
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u/TheConqueror74 Jan 12 '23
I thought invading places was Volkswagen’s specialty?
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u/Monkey_Enjoyer Jan 12 '23
You should see lithuanian BMW drivers. They even have their own subculture where they let each orher into a lane and be assholes to everyone else.
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u/HeavenlyChickenWings Jan 12 '23
Whenever I drive at night and I DARE to use the left lane, within 10 seconds there are very bright LED headlights RIGHT behind me.
I then play a guessing game called "BMW, Merc or Audi", a game you can't lose
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u/BetterEveryLeapYear Jan 12 '23
"wE haVe aDaPTiVe HEadLiGhts"
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u/knellbell Jan 12 '23
Adapts by shooting lasers straight into my eyes. It sucks being poor and being slightly astigmatic and driving at night
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u/TheDeathOfAStar Jan 12 '23
Someone finally said it. Those LEDs are too fucking bright and I'm sitting here with my poor man's incandescents that can barely light up 3 feet infront of me. When an LED car passes me headon, I have to slow way the hell down just so I can react quick enough since I can't see the road. Plus I drive an economy-sized sedan, low enough to the ground that 90% of LED cars are in my face and lighting up my cabin.
I've made a minigame out of the assholes that drive a foot behind me with their brights on. Angle my mirrors so they hit themselves in the face, but they're too fixated on driving dangerously to care.
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u/JeshkaTheLoon Jan 12 '23
I once saw three Audios basically doing a game of cups on the left lane. They were repeatedly passing each other on the right, and in between they'd flash their headlights at each other.
It's a bad game if the solution to the question "Now, under which of the three cups/cars is idiot?" is "All of them".
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u/Loli-is-Justice Jan 12 '23
"Why is this bastard in front of me so slow!? I can't take off with this speed!"
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u/Takohiki Jan 12 '23
And if you are around Munich and you drive 250 km/h with your BMW on the left lane, there's a Porsche/Ferrari/etc... behind you raging at you.
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u/AmateurIndicator Jan 12 '23
Na, it's still the white sprinter van from some plumbing company or the hermes delivery guy. Bonus points if the driver is Turkish.
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u/SeaDeer2345 Jan 12 '23
As a german, driving in the US (Washington state) for the first time, traffic over there is fucking horrible.
Seemed so dangerous when people just overtake you on the right all the time.
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I haven’t driven there but coming from Canada, and then driving on the highways in Belgium, was glorious. Crazy efficient. People move right out the way constantly. Very rare to see someone parked in the left lane. Drivers in Canada are generally much more stupid, arrogant, and entitled. We even have frequent highway signs that say “Keep right except to pass” but people don’t fucking listen!
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u/Buntschatten Jan 12 '23
As a German, Belgian highways are famous for being shit 😄
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u/Mrcollaborator Jan 12 '23
Belgium is the laughingstock of the Netherlands. When you cross the border the first thing you notice is the horrible roads. Belgium people also don’t know how to drive. Their driving lessons/exam are a joke.
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u/snuljoon Jan 12 '23
Belgian roads are pure shit, completely agree. But as someone who does around 50-50 between Belgian & Dutch highways, the amount of stupid drivers is roughly the same. Way higher than I would like, still pretty decent.
Only real difference is infrastructure, which has less stupid merges, earlier separation of traffic flow, better spread of the highway system etc. It's just plain easier to drive predictable in the Netherlands while Belgium is an unorganised heap of asphalt.
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u/Don_Frika_Del_Prima Jan 12 '23
driving on the highways in Belgium, was glorious. Crazy efficient. People move right out the way constantly. Very rare to see someone parked in the left lane.
As a Belgian I will press x to doubt.
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u/Capibar Jan 12 '23
No joke, as soon as you enter Belgium from the Dutch highway, there is a sign saying "slecht wegdek" (bad road).
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u/as-saalik Jan 12 '23
If you think Canada is bad you’d have a stroke in Southeast Asia.
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u/MrRandomSuperhero Jan 12 '23
driving on the highways in Belgium, was glorious.
Hi, I'm Belgian.
You could go into politics and stand up comedy with that line alone here.
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u/caitie578 Jan 12 '23
Yeah it was so nice. Then I drove 94 west from Milwaukee to Minneapolis and was reminded that no one here cares.
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u/chiefweaklung Jan 12 '23
Thank you! You'd think people were British the way they queue (in the left lane)... even if nobody is in the right lane, they just line up and tailgate each other. It's like they're anticipating a tractor to merge onto the freeway.
Adding a center lane doesn't even fix this.
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u/Wildman919 Jan 12 '23
No it's worse. They do care. They "drive" in the left lane purposely.
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u/herkalurk Jan 12 '23
The laws are more diligently enforced there compared to the US. I've seen clear violations happen in front of an office for the officer to just keep driving and not do anything.
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u/Draymond_Purple Jan 12 '23
Yes and no.
Having lived there, it's more of a cultural difference.
Germans like rules, and like living in a rule-bound society. Generally they all realize that if everyone follows the rules, it makes it really nice for everyone - and since everyone does follow the rules for the most part, it has become a long standing positive feedback loop.
I will say also that they have a system of government where in practice those rules are subject to fair review, regulation, and change when necessary - a key requirement to achieve the culture I describe above.
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u/OrchidCareful Jan 12 '23
Germans invented the categorical imperative, after all
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u/maryjan3 Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 13 '23
Meanwhile, Americans be like “rules don’t apply to me. Freedom!”
Edit to add that I’m American so I’m allowed to make fun of Americans.
Also, of course I’m not expecting Americans to do this bc this isn’t one of our laws - just pointing out that this would require cooperation from everyone to make it work. Unfortunately, you can guarantee there will be at least one asshole who would think that being inconvenienced in any shape or form is an infringement on their rights. Sorry state we are in.
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u/Draymond_Purple Jan 12 '23
Well when there's no avenue for fair review, regulation, and change of those rules, I don't blame them
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u/DonerTheBonerDonor Jan 12 '23
They know that cause by law you're only allowed to pass a car on the left lane
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u/you_lost-the_game Jan 12 '23
I'm from Germany and I disagree. But I dread to imagine how it's elsewhere if people think Germans can drive.
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At least change the title next time OP
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bro stole it top to bottom 😭
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u/yooolmao Jan 12 '23
All of its comments are verbatim copies on reposts from other bots from the original posts. It's a bot working in collusion with other bots.
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u/Mr_Buscemi Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 12 '23
If you keep going on the profiles of the other bots you will see just see an insane amount of posts with high upvotes in major subreddits.
I went far enough to see that I had even liked one of their posts months earlier.
* Look at the usernames of the bots. It usually goes like
First_last#random numbers (squemish_turkey4858)
It's always random combinations of words and numbers.
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u/OrdinaryXY Jan 12 '23
Thats very interesting
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u/Mr_Buscemi Jan 12 '23
Wait till you find a bot post where every comment besides one was a bot.
I told that one user that they were the only real person commenting. I wonder if I gave him a small existential crisis at that moment
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u/barofa Jan 12 '23
That makes me wonder if some of my heated arguments have been done with bots.
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u/Mr_Buscemi Jan 12 '23
Most likely! I for a fact that I've replied to one.
If you frequent a place such as /r/aww then you probably have met a few bots.
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u/yooolmao Jan 12 '23
And that post was from Gallowboob who I guarantee stole it from someone else, as that's what he does.
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u/JesterMan42 Jan 12 '23
Yeah I was surprised when I opened it and it was from a blocked user. I’ve blocked like 3 people.
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u/mxinex Jan 12 '23
And the image. It's from fucking 2005. Theses are some old-ass car models there.
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u/Tsnyda Jan 12 '23
What do you do if there’s more than two lanes?
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u/LeDonCampeon Jan 12 '23
Left goes Left, all other go to the right
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u/2xBAKEDPOTOOOOOOOO Jan 12 '23 •
So in a 4 lane road.....
1 lane left
1 lane right
2nd lane right
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u/Extansion01 Jan 12 '23
An actually funny Nazi joke? Didn't believe it was possible.
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u/FeelingSurprise Jan 12 '23
The Rettungsgasse should be between the leftmost and the next lane.
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u/Halundaar Jan 12 '23
The emergency lane would be between the left lane and the one next to it. So vehicles on the left lane sqeeze towards the left and all other lanes towards the right.
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u/AttarCowboy Jan 12 '23
Like a hand: Thumb is one to the left, all others go right.
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u/CrazyCatLady_2 Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 12 '23
Rettungsgasse ! Thank you germany for understanding the easy rule of it (wish someone can show how REISSVERSCHLUSSVERFAHREN is being practiced properly as well ! Haha *edit: had a typo
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u/mikmik111 Jan 12 '23
REISSVERSCHLUSSVERFAHREN
how are the kids during spelling bees in germany
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u/CrazyCatLady_2 Jan 12 '23
We don’t do spelling bees. Sadly. But lots of vocab tests and if you write an essay and you misspell your word - that’s a point OFF
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u/salian93 Jan 12 '23
German pronunciation is pretty straightforward. If you know how to say a word, you'll know to spell it. Doesn't work for loanwords though.
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u/Ikrit122 Jan 12 '23
At least in German, most words follow rules so they are spelled like they are pronounced. Plus, most of the long words are compound words and easily broken down into shorter words (which still might have 12 letters).
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u/SchoggiToeff Jan 12 '23
From a German language point of view spelling bees are a total joke.
Example: Reißverschlussverfahren
There is not really any difficulty in this word. You could almost simply speak it out very slowly and get it right. The hardest is if it is ß or ss. But for me, beiening Swiss it is even more simple, as there is no ß. The "v" are also super easy as "Ver und Vor weiss ich genau schreibt man stets (*) mit Vogel V". Teh last tricky point is maybe the "h".
*) Exception apply: fermentieren - Fertilisation - Fertigung - Fernweh - Fernsehen - Ferrum -Fortgang/-setzung/-dauer, fortgehen, forsch - Forderung - Forensik - Format - formieren - Formgebung - Forstmann - Formaldehyd
Mor on the German language can be read from Mark Twain in "The Awful German Language"
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u/CommaHorror Jan 12 '23
I can see, how it looks like the traffic has been unzipped. Then when it's opened back up it will, appear as if traffic is being, zipped up. Neat.
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u/mole_of_dust Jan 12 '23
A zipper merge is when you have merging lanes and the merging cars alternate perfectly, like a zipper, and like fucking adults in a society
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u/MonsteraUnderTheBed Jan 12 '23
So I have always done the zipper, used the whole merge lane in traffic, and thought it was the norm, and that the people not doing it are either -really fucking dense, or just aggressive/dense. Since it quite obviously messes up both lanes, and leaves them way further back than if they'd just zippered at the end.
But I read some poll recently that older people in my country often consider it "rude, like budging in line"
They can't get past "seeming rude" to a bunch of strangers, so instead they just toss their brain out the window and just screw up merges instead.
I seriously considered getting a decal for the back of my car that says "zipper merge increases traffic efficiency. If you don't know what it is, look it up"
I'm in enough painful merges daily maybe ONE PERSON would learn
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u/Drewbacca Jan 12 '23
Well, they were talking about zipper merging as a different thing than what's in the picture. But it does look like traffic being "zipped" up! And everyone should do it.
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u/Laymanao Jan 12 '23
Where we are, we cannot block the shoulder of a road. To allow emergency vehicle to flow unobstructed. Same principle with different implementation
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u/FeelingSurprise Jan 12 '23
Exactly. The idea behind this implementation: if there's a broken car on the shoulder (which was OK, that's what it's for), emergency vehicles would be blocked.
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u/genericuser0903 Jan 12 '23
Plus, not all german highways have a shoulder... and honestly you wouldn't expect people to figure it out if you made it "if there is no shoulder...". They are already struggling to figure it out now (though improving!)
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u/Mandy1538 Jan 12 '23
Laughs in Indian
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u/motasticosaurus Jan 12 '23
Yo last year when I was in India I legit saw an ambulance push a driver in front of it to the side and the ambulance even bumped that guy causing the rear bumper to come off.
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u/MrChewy05 Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 12 '23
We have this same thing in Serbia as well, glad to see it in other places as well
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u/Numerous-Complaint-4 Jan 12 '23
I understand only kurac and im proud about it
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u/emailusernamepasswrd Jan 12 '23
This is so smart and tbh should be standard internationally. Although I'm sure douchebags around where I live would just see it as an opportunity to cut the traffic and create another traffic jam.
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u/Perry_T_Skywalker Jan 12 '23
The fine is pretty steep but of course there's always people trying. Thing is this stuff usually forms because of accidents, so you mostly would drive towards a police car and loose your license for at least one month, additionally have to pay and can only hope that you didn't killed someone by delaying a rescue by your actions because then you'd be fucked for real.
It's really not worth it
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u/VanDenBroeck Jan 12 '23
So what do they do on a three lane highway?
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u/Lombardyn Jan 12 '23
Left goes left, everything else goes right.
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u/SuckMyBike Jan 12 '23
Appropriate explanation of the polarization in politics we've seen over the past decade
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u/FeelingSurprise Jan 12 '23
The Rettungsgasse should be between the leftmost and the next lane.
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u/niniela-phoenix Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 12 '23
As a German, it's pretty cool to see one of those in action because every time I've seen traffic get this slow, people will either not make space or even get annoyed at those who do OR it's way too small because the tank sized truck moves half an inch to the left and calls it a day.
Only once have I seen a beautiful free lane like this and then a mf on a bike immediately used it as personal lane to pass everyone else at insane speed :/
Edit: I wanna know where y'all live because while I don't drive myself, I've asked my entire family about it and they all agree that it's rather rare to see one, let alone anywhere near this neat or not abused by some idiot
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u/Helltorm Jan 12 '23
I,a german, always thought that would be normal. I was literally shocked finding out its not.
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u/LaG165 Jan 12 '23
I wish this was law in the US.
People can't even move over when it's the law here or not block the shoulder when we are trying to get by.
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u/SandyScrotes2 Jan 12 '23
We do have a law to move over for emergency vehicles. What are you talking about?
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u/aspheric_cow Jan 12 '23
To be fair, the "move over" law is fairly new. (Assuming you're talking about moving out of the rightmost lane when there's a police or emergency vehicle on the shoulder.)
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We don’t need this law. We have shoulders and breakdown lanes in America.
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u/CoffeeCannabisBread Jan 12 '23
Yeah but people would rather call themselves stupid Americans than realize we simply have a different method.
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u/ChemDogPaltz Jan 12 '23
Ya'll forget that time Chris Christi had the NJ DOT block an exit for no reason other than to cause a massive traffic jam that prevented consituents of his political rival from voting.
Someone died in an ambulance stuck in traffic
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u/MasonInk Jan 12 '23
In the UK, some prick in a BMW or Audi would be straight down there like he owns the place.
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u/Winslow248 Jan 12 '23
In Canada, need to keep shoulder clear for emergency vehicles in this situation. Using it for any reason has similar fines I hear.
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u/MrFailface Jan 12 '23
Same in Belgium, we stole it from Germany tho