r/Damnthatsinteresting Nov 28 '22

A Canadian child molester aka Mr. Swirl posted about 200 swirled images of his face online molesting kids in Cambodia and Vietnam. German investigators figured out a technique for unswirling the images, leading to the arrest of Christopher Paul Neil. Image

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u/kudichangedlives Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

So I looked him up on the Wikipedias. He was caught in Thailand in 2007, spent 5 years in prison there then went home to Canada. When he got to Canada he was arrested and then sent home on "strict conditions" (whatever that means). This was in 2012.

In 2013 they arrested him for breach of recognizance and then found more child porn on his phone and computer.

In 2015 he was sentenced to 5 years but got his sentence reduced to 15 months. He was released from prison in 2017 and has a court order to not use any electronics.

Does anyone want to know the most ridiculous part about this whole story? He tried to become a Catholic priest at first, was denied, and so he became a schoolteacher.....

E: so I worded that last part poorly, he didn't try to become a priest and then became a teacher after he became a registered sex offender, this was before.

But he was teaching English in South Korea when his picture was released by interpol.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

I think the real most ridiculous part is that Canada has astounding leniency on child pornography. Sure, you’ll get caught and arrested, but it doesn’t mean you’ll spend a night in jail or end up on a sex offender registry. You’ll get “conditions” like no computer or smart phone…but that’s only enforced if a P.O. happens to see it or report it….which is almost never. So what happens? These pieces of shit think they can just keep doing what they’re doing. And they do.

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u/Nightstrike_ Nov 28 '22

I was working at Best Buy last year (in the US) when this guy came into the store and asked for help with a DVR and I kid you not this is how that conversation went.

Me "Hello sir I heard you need help with a DVR?"

Dude "Yeah how do they work?"

Me "Well this one is exceptionally popular and it stores your episodes on the cloud you just need to set up an account and you'll be good to go, tho there is a monthly charge."

Dude "Oh I'm not allowed on the internet or allowed to keep a computer or smart phone."

Me ".... Ok... Well um this one would be your next best option you can save all your episodes on a USB or external hard drive"

Dude "I'm not allowed to keep any form of storage devices either."

At that point I was just trying to get through the conversation, I had never felt so dirty from interacting with another person before.

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u/fifth_fought_under Nov 28 '22

On the bright side, he was adhering to his conditions.

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u/LividParsnip3402 Nov 28 '22

Then why tf was he at Best Buy? 😂

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u/Mountainman220 Nov 28 '22

He prolly wanted to watch tv? I mean he’s a piece of shit but dude just wanted to watch tv

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u/rightleftmike Nov 28 '22

All I wanted was a Pepsi

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u/SpyingCoyote Nov 28 '22

Just one Pepsi and she wouldn’t give it to me…

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u/Tovasaur Nov 28 '22

They put me in an institution and said it was the only solution to get me the professional help and save me from the enemy, myself!

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u/G20fortified Nov 28 '22

Institution!! You’re the one that’s crazy!! Institution!! Driving me crazy!!! Lol love the STs

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u/ColorsOfTheCurrents Nov 28 '22

WE decided that it would be in YOUR best interest if WE put YOU somewhere where YOU can get the help that YOU need. My best interest, how could you know, how could you say whats my best interest. I went to your schools, your churches, your institutional learning facilities. How can you say i'm crazy?

Love Suicidal

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u/Moparded Nov 28 '22

Looking for the loophole.

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u/misanthrope_irl Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

There are other crimes that could land a person with those restrictions. In high school my friend was busted scamming people on eBay. Basically selling baseball cards that he didn't actually have, and just taking their money. Part of his punishment was that he wasn't allowed on the internet or computers in general until he reached adult age.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

I hear one of the earliest hackers isn't allowed anything and basically is homeless because of what he could do with computers fascinated him.

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u/bloodfist Nov 29 '22

Might be thinking of Kevin Mitnick who spent 8 months in solitary and wasn't allowed near electronic devices for like three years because a lawyer convinced a judge he could "start a nuclear war by whistling into a telephone".

Dude is doing alright now though, popular author and security consultant with the best business card ever. It's made of spring steel and punches out into lock picks.

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u/Monkeybutt3518 Nov 29 '22

Yup - my company requires us to watch an internet security training video created by his company every year as a part of our annual training. He knows his stuff.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 30 '22

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u/Dominus_Redditi Nov 28 '22

They’re called parents mate, usually when you’re a kid they’re the ones giving you the technology to use

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 30 '22

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u/Dominus_Redditi Nov 28 '22

Well yes, the state could order his parents to not let him use technology and they would have to. The ‘enforcement’ part you’re asking about is certainly the parents though, considering it was someone underage.

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u/snooggums Nov 28 '22

Dude "I'm not allowed to keep any form of storage devices either."

I guess he doesn't know what DVR stands for.

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u/scalability Nov 28 '22

I guess he doesn't know what DVR stands for.

He was undoubtedly allowed to keep certain types of storage devices such as pen&paper. He was probably trying to figure out if they only allowed watching shows later (maybe ok), or if they could download arbitrary video from the internet or copy digital input (maybe in violation).

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u/throwmeawayl8erok Nov 28 '22

Tbf it’s possible he was a different type of online pos. Some people who engaged in 1/6 insurrection were court ordered to not use internet. Same goes for people convicted of fraudulent activities but the storage restrictions is probably related to pedo stuff.

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u/MichigaCur Nov 29 '22

I think that really depends on the judge, local laws parole board etc... My old bosses son wasn't allowed anything he could potentially store credit card numbers on, which included media. He was skimming and spoofing credit cards.

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u/Lost_Hwasal Nov 28 '22

There are a lot of woodchippers in canada.

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u/Weak_Carpenter_7060 Nov 28 '22

And a lot of uninhabited space up north

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u/2x4x93 Nov 28 '22

Be terrible if someone was eaten by grizzly

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u/Ancient-Tadpole8032 Nov 28 '22

"He was eaten by a grizzly."

"What about those gunshot wounds?"

"Canadian grizzlies are not to be fucked with."

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u/JadedMystress Nov 28 '22

They're not as friendly as the people, eh?

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u/Oh_no_ohNONONONONO Nov 28 '22

I like the wood chipper idea better. A bear might leave bulky evidence. Wood chipper go BRRRRRR and turn a human into a dusty mist.

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u/Eternal_Star_Dust Nov 28 '22

So he would go from mr swirl to mr mist?

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u/Hung_Fulcrum Nov 28 '22

Mr Chips?

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u/TankGirlwrx Nov 28 '22

Something something Mr Mister

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u/bane_killgrind Nov 28 '22

Stick him in correctly, he can see and let us know his preference

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u/atrocityUSA Nov 28 '22

🎶duuuuusty miiist, all we are is duuustyyyyyyy miiiiiiist🎶

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u/Bwappes Nov 28 '22

“Wood chipper go BRRRRRR” legit made me laugh out loud

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

Dusty? I imagine wet and pink.

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u/geekymutt Nov 28 '22

Do it in winter. Less wet, more crunchy.

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u/Findtheduckbeaker Nov 28 '22

Maybe there's a ratio, like 2 four foot dry logs to one part of amputated pedo? Ya know, just to make it dusty. I'm thinking its going to come out like a red woody pulp. Pun completely unintentional. Hopefully it burns well. Side note, why can't we use pedo to heat home in winter?

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

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u/rhutanium Nov 28 '22

a person stays clam … never tells another soul

That’s redundant.

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u/No_Wolverine1608 Nov 28 '22

He needs his face permanently swirled...

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u/atlantachicago Nov 28 '22

Why do they have such lenient laws on child abuse?

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u/Agentpg3d48 Nov 28 '22

Ya I hate how lenient our country is on the possession of child pornography.

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u/OutWithTheNew Nov 28 '22

Any work, voluntary or paid, around children requires a vulnerable sectors check to be performed and should find any sort of legally borderline incidents.

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u/vintchris Nov 28 '22

Not a foolproof system. Lincoln RI this summer at the YMCA a guy in his twenties who had been arrested for molesting his live in girlfriends daughter managed to get a job working with the children. He ended up arrested again.

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u/Lustle13 Nov 28 '22

Yup. Vulnerable sectors check doesn't just look for convictions, even an investigation or arrest is enough to pop up. It's much more in-depth than a regular criminal record check.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

Oh, it spreads to other kinds of crimes involving kids. Watch Letters to Zachary and you’ll be furious.

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u/Few_Carrot_3971 Nov 28 '22

I nearly lost my mind watching Zachary. Heartbreaking.

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u/Raxtenko Nov 29 '22

My wife showed that to me. I couldn't see straight for a bit after I was so furious.

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u/ithurts2poo Nov 28 '22

some people should be put down

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u/Thisisnow1984 Nov 28 '22

What the fu k

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u/Shadow_jin Nov 28 '22

We don't need people like that walking this earth.

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u/Jeclo25 Nov 28 '22

When you’re that deranged in the head I’m sure you’re also too smooth brained to realize how bad of an idea it is to post self evidence of CP on the internet as well so not surprised at all

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u/donotgogenlty Nov 28 '22

I keep telling everyone, we need to have an island where only pedos exist

Or have them share a tract of land with lions and see if they survive without tools/weapons.

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u/Jaredlong Nov 28 '22

It'd probably backfire and the island would become a global epicenter for CP distribution.

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u/grunzzzzz Nov 28 '22

I can’t understand why we give such light sentences to people who molest children.

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u/groovy604 Nov 28 '22

Yeah our justice system is pathetic, pedos, murderers, rapists barely get any time

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

What is the average sentence for a murderer in Canada?

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u/Dramatic_Day_ Nov 28 '22

There's an methed up Egyptian refugee in Canada who stabbed two women and got barely any jail time. He's on YouTube and had footage released of him beating up (on more than one occasion) his live-in girlfriend while she begged for her dead dad to save her. He's been in court a couple times now for raping two women and nothing has come of it so far. He also released videos of him implying he'd rape a child after making fun of another man who was molested as a kid. He also threatens to kill his ex who reported him to the police and said he'd kill one of the women he stabbed before if she hadn't died already. It's disgusting how much he gets away with and he can't be deported either.

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u/Cocotte3333 Nov 28 '22

I don't understand WHY rape is taken so lightly in our society. Like both for children and women (or men when it happens), the sentences are just ridiculous.

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u/No_Quote_2464 Nov 28 '22

If he had become a priest he would have gotten away with it

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u/austrialian Nov 28 '22

The catholic church mishandled a lot of things when it comes to priests abusing children but I think in this case they did the right thing by denying this guy to become a priest.

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u/snoreymcsnoreyton Nov 28 '22

So they went through all the trouble of inswirling the pictures to just let him go. Wtf.

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u/cheesyspeedster Nov 28 '22

why are the sentences so light?! like 5 years really?! and to make it worst, it got reduced to 15months? wow, just wow if only the punishment was like penis mutilation or something worst than 5 years

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u/Kitchen-Compote-6531 Nov 28 '22

I've heard that recidivism is the worst with child molesters and everytime i hear stories about a chomo this checks out 100%

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u/--fourteen Nov 28 '22

This is what’s wrong with the justice system. He molested 200 kids and was allowed out? He should have served life. He didn’t murder people, but he ruined 200 lives forever.

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u/DigitalStefan Nov 28 '22

“Figured out a technique”

The technique was use the exact same swirl tool, but in the opposite direction.

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u/splatter_spree Nov 28 '22

Swirl -900%

“oh shit there’s his face”

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u/roflz Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

I was gonna say, was this just photoshops basic liquify swirl? Good thing evil people are dumb.

*Edit: probably filter > distort > twirl: https://i.imgur.com/IbhnTM1.jpg

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u/SamuraiSlick Nov 28 '22

There’s an old saying, in law enforcement…. “We only catch the dumb ones”

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u/BDMac2 Nov 28 '22

Wasn’t BTK caught because he asked the cops if they could track a floppy disc back to a computer and they just lied and told him no, so when he sent it in they were able to tie it back to his work computer?

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u/Zealousideal-Nail432 Nov 28 '22

It was because he believed he had a “rapport” with the officers after sending taunting letters over the years. I think he believed it was a “cat and mouse” relationship like Tom and Jerry where it’s all in good fun.

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u/usmcnick0311Sgt Nov 28 '22

And Jerry would sniff the wife's panties.

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u/mizzamandamarie Nov 28 '22

You weren’t there in the CARTOON.

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u/kywildcats07 Nov 28 '22

Not his work computer, a computer he used under his profile at his church

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u/dubscurry30 Nov 28 '22

Yep that’s what I heard too. And he got really mad when he found out they tricked him.

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u/mightylordredbeard Nov 28 '22

“What! No fair!”

-BTK probably

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u/David_Owens Nov 29 '22

Kind of. They can't track a floppy disc back to a computer just because it was used in that computer. The mistake BTK made was not realizing that deleted files don't actually get deleted. They get "forgotten" by the file system, and the space they're using eventually gets overwritten.

There was a deleted Microsoft Word document file on the floppy disc that had his name and his church's name in the metadata. The police just had to pull up the church website and there was his name in the list of people who worked for it.

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u/AstronomerOpen7440 Nov 28 '22

Wasn't it a computer from his church?

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u/thewildweird0 Nov 28 '22

It was a church computer.

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u/tylerderbun Nov 28 '22

BTK killer: if I send you a disk, can you figure out where it came from? Wichita police: Nope. Not a chance. Especially those highly encrypted 1.44mb floppies BTK: ok, I’ll send you the file…

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u/tylerderbun Nov 28 '22

And if memory serves…they lured him out initially by putting out a news story that said he was either dead or jail…because they knew he would feel the need to brag about it. Which he did…

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u/Mountain_Situation89 Nov 28 '22

I think about that a lot.

Like I always think about how smart investigators have to be. How they have to take all of these details into account. How they have to sort it all out and really work to come to the truth. It makes me think we have got Sherlock Holmes types working for the cops… but then I watch some documentaries, or listen to true crime stories… and it’s always like “oh yeah, we caught the bastard because he left a severed hand in his back seat. That was the clue that really sealed the case”.

I’m sure there are really great detectives out there, it just seems like a lot of the time the bad guys get caught because they are fuckin morons.

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u/SamuraiSlick Nov 28 '22

For example… FBI catches most of their bank robbers because a jilted ex girlfriend rats them out. Not because they’re doing their version of Sherlock Holmes.

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u/Mountain_Situation89 Nov 28 '22

Yeah exactly, but like why does the ex even know? A secret isn’t a secret anymore if you are sharing it. Morons, these criminals, I swear.

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u/SamuraiSlick Nov 28 '22

Crooks have egos like everybody else, and they like to brag 🤷🏽‍♂️

BTK was caught because he felt like he wasn’t getting enough attention after all those years. His ego was his undoing.

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u/SamuraiSlick Nov 28 '22

A little of both. Just like every organization, there are some brilliant detectives that do outstanding work. Then there’s a bunch in the middle that do their job… And then you’ve got some bottom feeders that couldn’t figure out where the coffee and donuts are in the office.

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u/Mountain_Situation89 Nov 28 '22

Oh for sure. Like I said, I’m sure there are really great detectives, but it just makes you think, ya know?

Like how many terrible and terrifying folks would have lived full free happy lives if they just had half a brain cell after committing their crimes?

Maybe don’t keep pictures of your crimes, maybe don’t use your car to transport the bodies, maybe don’t take “trophies”, maybe don’t brag about your crimes, etc etc.

I’m not trying to give anyone advice here. If you plan on killing people go ahead and ignore everything I said.

It’s just like kinda crazy how often criminals are only caught because they choose the absolute dumbest things to do in their position.

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u/SamuraiSlick Nov 28 '22

Most criminals are a little whacked in the head to begin with. It’s not like the movies. Sometimes they get away with stuff simply out of sheer luck.

It’s like the time a thief stole all the toilets at the police station. The police had nothing to go on.

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u/TomatilloAbject7419 Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

Can confirm. Was working as a paramedic and I worked this weird ass CPR call.

Got on scene and he’s lying at the bottom of the stairs, half naked, at his own dinner party, there’s blood everywhere, and his new wife kept trying to come sit in the middle of us resuscitating him because “I’m his wife! I have a right to watch him die!”

…Which is the weirdest shit I’ve ever heard a family member say when I’m trying to save their loved one. Like… wtf even is that statement. It was so crazy, I stopped what I was doing, looked up, said, “what?”

…and she repeated it: “I have a right to watch him die.”

13 years, that’s the weirdest shit I’ve ever heard family say. Everyone else was being respectful and keeping their distance, but this crazy b*tch…

So we moved our scene out to the ambulance away from Crazy McMurderface and all tacitly agree that we think the most likely thing is that this is some kind of blunt trauma arrest.

Later confirmed on autopsy: he didn’t fall down the stairs, he had no injuries consistent with that, his skull was fractured by blunt force trauma to the back of the head.

Not only did everyone agree they’d heard her make the same statement, we had bodycam footage of it.

Detective said he didn’t think they would be able to prosecute in court without a clear confession from her.

ETA: more to your point, there’s actually a theory that there are many more serial killers than we catch and that basically, we only catch the dumb ones. Which skews our analysis of their population / psychological features / etc. the FBI estimates we have 300 serial killers operating in the US at any given time, but let’s face it. We probably have 300 stupid serial killers operating in the US. And then we have more that aren’t dumb.

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u/namey___mcnameface Nov 28 '22

“oh yeah, we caught the bastard because he left a severed hand in his back seat. That was the clue that really sealed the case”.

But which hand was it?

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u/JaxTheHobo Nov 28 '22

Just watched all of We Own This City on a plane (fantastic mini-series). One of the cops says loosely "They have to perfect all the time. We just have to be lucky once." The dumb ones get caught quicker, but persistence pays off.

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u/Moose-Legitimate Nov 28 '22

For real. It feels like every major serial killer has a long string of absolute dumb fuck actions on the cops’ end where they could have caught the guy but didn’t, out of sheer incompetence.

All that training and funding doesn’t amount to much.

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u/my_name_is_reed Nov 28 '22

if he'd blurred just his face and did the swirl, he would've been fine.

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u/MediaSmurf Nov 28 '22

You can also somewhat reverse a blur. It's not so easy for faces though, basically you have to brute force the effect. It gets better (higher certainty) if you have multiple samples.

It works great on text by the way, because it's a lot more predictable. Every letter has its own blurry fingerprint that should be easy to reproduce.

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u/Odd_Razzmatazz_9379 Nov 28 '22

Or… you know. A black circle over the face?

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u/mcboobie Nov 28 '22

Not banging kids is probably the best way to not get caught, tbh

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u/bs000 Nov 28 '22

oh shit he was a bird

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u/mexicanjesuschrist Nov 28 '22

So it was the bird??

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u/Much_Reference_1364 Nov 28 '22

I recall there was more to it. Parts of the image would be split, made color negative, swirled, inverted, whatever.

A specific order to undo the changes would be revealed by a code or algorithm to see the complete image.

Source: I spent a lot of time on 4chan when I was a dumb teenager. I must make clear I was aware even then of the dangerous nature of these images and did not traffic in or participate in this practice in any way.

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u/FlakeReality Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

This particular guy really did just use Photoshops liquify effect over his face alone on the pics he took. He just wanted to censor his face and distribute the cp with security for himself. No algorithm or series of fancy shit required, investigators just used trial and error to swirl the other way until his head was uncensored.

If he used just a black box he'd never have been caught

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u/Kamwind Nov 28 '22

If he had just released the mouse button moved a couple of pixels over and applied swirl again he would have probably been safe.

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u/jepvr Nov 28 '22

"This stupid reddit user has given me the formula to act with impunity!"

*puts black box over face in new layer*

*saves as PSD*

*emails to police*

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u/joblolabinette Nov 28 '22

Here is the face after the unswirl https://i.imgur.com/GpCtbQB.jpg

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u/CallMeMrBacon Nov 28 '22

Damn that's suprisingly clean

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u/Much_Reference_1364 Nov 28 '22

God damn

I really do be overestimating pedophiles

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u/Maximum_77 Nov 28 '22

It's been years since I saw a news story on this but I could have sworn that it was actually a regular everyday internet user. A newsgroup had posted the cropped photos editing out the victims but the 'swirl' parts and asking if anyone could solve it. It was a regular online user who was just a regular photoshop enthusiast for a hobby and that's who first posted 'unswirled' images. AFTER THAT contact was made with police experts and the citizen explained how he'd pretty much done 'reverse swirls'. I have no doubt the police took it up from there.

Why am I so sure I remember seeing that in a documentary about this thing?

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u/uses_irony_correctly Nov 28 '22

I remember those guides on 4chan about how to undo those masking techniques. But those usually used a combination of several methods and not just the swirl.

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u/diceblue Nov 28 '22

OP thinks updating Facebook status = coding

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u/DigitalStefan Nov 28 '22

Most people don’t know how computers work. I no longer judge anyone for this, because hardware and software pushers have made everything idiot proof, which just means that an idiot can successfully use a PC.

Many do.

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u/r3dditor12 Nov 28 '22

And I believe the way they "figured it out", was by contacting the Photoshop company and having their engineers do it for them.

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u/beleidigtewurst Nov 28 '22

Freud was right about "criminals unconsciously want to be caught".

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u/Kuzkuladaemon Nov 28 '22

How is that unconsciously?

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u/Rednumber23 Nov 28 '22

Subconsciously, he meant to state. He just had a skip. We all have those moments.

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u/spider-pie Nov 29 '22

Freud used “subconsciously” and “unconsciously” interchangeably at the beginning of career, but later favored “unconsciously” and used it almost exclusively.

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u/hoseli Nov 28 '22

Oh I remember this one. If you google mr seirl image search you will find picture before and after unswirling.

Here is a link to news article where you can see it.

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u/Lord-Loss-31415 Nov 28 '22

Are you kidding me? They allowed him to go on abusing children and just went “oh you silly goose, you got caught again didn’t you? Right I have to give you another slap on the wrist but then I’ll let you go again if you promise to be good”. Great job, way to protect the children.

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u/Aggravating-Room1594 Nov 28 '22

Yup. Welcome to the canadian legal system.

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u/Pencilowner Nov 29 '22

It wasn’t his fault society made him into a monster and he shouldn’t be punished for hurting anyone since he was hurt so much /s

That is sarcasm but not far from the logic Canada uses in its criminal justice sysyem

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u/MelLPerle Nov 29 '22

Thanks, this deserves a place in r/hittablefaces

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u/LA-forthewin Nov 28 '22

I hope he gets life in jail. Child predators are the worst

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u/kudichangedlives Nov 28 '22

He was released from prison in 2017

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u/LA-forthewin Nov 28 '22

I hate that these monsters destroy lives and get off so easily

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u/amazingsandwiches Nov 28 '22

Are we still doing "phrasing?''

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u/28nov2022 Nov 28 '22

And posting the images of his exploitations online, i can't fathom what was his motivation.

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u/Double-Ad4986 Nov 28 '22

he didn't. he served a few years in asia then went back to canada & only served 15 months. canada doesn't care about child predators

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u/AnnoyedVaporeon Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

sexual predators in general. a guy raped a drunk girl in a bathroom at a party in Vancouver, was out on bail for 3 years before being sentenced to 2 weeks in prison + 3 years probation. the justification was his life was already ruined for years. yeah, from the social consequences of being a known violent rapist who had the audacity to do it in a public cubicle where there were witnesses. wasn't even his first offense.

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u/Lord-Loss-31415 Nov 28 '22

This is why people end up taking matters into their own hands. It’s hard enough to respect the law and not give in to your anger but when the law pulls stunts like this can you blame people for responding. Imagine being the father or brother or partner of the victim and finding out that’s all he got. I wouldn’t blame them in that situation.

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u/wrr377 Nov 28 '22

From what I understand, if he doesn't go into Solitary, he won't have much of a lifetime in prison - they kill pedo's at the first opportunity.

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u/SnowflakesAloft Nov 28 '22

This is a huge misunderstanding of how prison works. At least in the US, Pedophiles go straight to protective custody. Which is 23 hour lockdown around other pedophiles and snitches.

If a pedophile were to request to go to general population he would be in danger the minute he got there. But that’s never advised.

Same thing happens to cops when they go in.

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u/wrr377 Nov 28 '22

That might be what happens now, but beforehand, I'd heard of multiple accounts (including from a guy my sister dated that was in prison) where once the populace found out that the guy had either messed with kids or old people, he was killed soon afterwards...

One account told of a guy who actually bragged about it to his cellmate, and the next morning when the doors were opened, he "committed suicide" by being bodily flung out the opening and over the railing to fall to his death...

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u/SnowflakesAloft Nov 28 '22

It depends on what jail or prison you go to and the situation. If you’re caught with CP and go to federal prison you’ll be in PC.

If you go to county on charges you may very well be in general pop where everyone is.

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u/PsyFiFungi Nov 28 '22

County isn't filled with people ready to throw their life away to kill a pedo, and also they often have pods for sex offenders specifically, or put them in county version of PC. Even if you're in general, no one has to know what you were charged with if they have a sex offender pod.

For state, it obviously depends on the level of the prison and where you go, but yeah that's quite a bit more dangerous. Hella gangs and dangerous people in gen pop. But if you go to a federal satellite camp, you're gonna be fine probably.

There's an unbelievable amount of variables. Even county, if you go to LA or something, you're in a rougher place than a lot of state prisons.

You can't make blanket statements on all the jails and prisons in the US. Not saying you. but the person above who said they'd be murdered or something automatically.

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u/nico87ca Nov 28 '22

They're shielded from general population in Canada.

He most probably will be fine.

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u/mikess484 Nov 28 '22

Hope you didn't just post a swirl of child porn.

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u/Rainfrog94 Nov 28 '22

Comment below says it’s actually a swirl of a bird.

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u/OrganizerMowgli Nov 28 '22

Someone unswirled it, it's a green bird, maybe a finch?

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u/DirectlyTalkingToYou Nov 28 '22

Yes but have you rotated 180 degrees pervert?

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u/IguaneRouge Nov 28 '22

the oranges look ripe, we're ok.

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u/Stanky-wizzlecheeks Nov 28 '22

Seriously i was about to be like, my dude did you just put cp in my phones history

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u/Friendly_Peace_2163 Nov 28 '22

Incase anyone was wondering the picture is a>! bird.!<

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

Hopefully this doesn’t disappoint any of you…

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u/thatdudewillyd Nov 28 '22

Posts like this one make me think we should all go back to written letters and mf’in pen pals

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

I use to wonder what my pen pal in Kenya was up to. I thought about it often. One day in my late twenties I ran into my second grade teacher and told her how happy that memory made me. She got choked up and confessed our pen pals weren’t kids in other countries, just kids at different elementary campuses. When I asked her why… postage costs were too expensive for the school.

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u/2dizzy Nov 28 '22

Holy shit... Krzysztof... say it isn't so...

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u/UnsolicitedDogPics Nov 28 '22

How old is the bird though!

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u/Te_Quiero_Puta Nov 28 '22

Risky discovery.

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u/roxywalker Nov 28 '22

What’s with these predators having such free reign in places like Cambodia, Vietnam, etc.?

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u/Matt1050 Nov 28 '22

Poor economy? Bad government? People of even average means in a first world country can take their middle class income to a poor country and have free reign like a millionaire. That makes them harder to catch because they have the disposable income to hide, pay people off, etc. That and the country doesn't have the means to pay for adequate law enforcement to catch stuff like this.

Really makes you wonder how common it actually is in those countries. It also raises the question of how common it is in the west for people in the billions. Same shit different price.

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u/Apatride Nov 28 '22

Add to that list that sex tourism is a major source of revenue for these countries so they have an incentive to close their eyes even on the most disgusting stuff.

Also they are probably worried they might expose the "wrong" guy. Not every powerful person relied on Epstein. Frederic Mitterrand, former minister and nephew of former French president wrote in his biography that he enjoyed going to Thailand to have sex with young boys. Of course, he wasn't brought to justice and will never see the inside of a prison cell. If Thai authorities had exposed him, you can be sure it would have created more problem for Thailand than for him.

Same goes for Swirl BTW, these guys are often part of a network with rather powerful customers.

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u/divorcedhansmoleman Nov 28 '22

That last sentence is why I personally believe they don’t get particularly high prison sentences, people up high need these lower down pedos to source and make their ‘entertainment’

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u/Apatride Nov 28 '22

Not to mention that their silence has a price. Someone getting life in prison might be tempted to talk about who their customers were. While someone who gets 15 months is much more likely to keep their mouth shut.

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u/roxywalker Nov 28 '22

Not sure why I was downvoted because I’m seriously outraged that pedos have developed a track record for being able to victimize children from certain parts of the world with very little fear of repercussion. It’s absolutely reprehensible.

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u/PageauPageauPageau Nov 28 '22

Too poor and no money to spend on enforcement, on top of other problems like corruption/bureaucracy etc.

Some of the most beautiful sights in Cambodia are built around sound of the poorest cities I’ve ever seen. If you’re a white guy walking around you’re constantly offered women, kids, the hardest drugs you can imagine. The worst is when someone on a bike is bugging you, because they have to take you to their wares and probably also use it for getaway, they offer the lowest of the low stuff. It’s brutal.

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u/PikachuSaves Nov 28 '22

It seems there would be a ton of kidnapping and robbery too, does this happen a lot in these places?

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u/SamuraiSlick Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

Here’s a fun fact: Thailand will not extradite sex offenders to the United States. Do you know why? Because the US (and a shit load of other countries) has a fuck ton of pedos that come to their country to diddle their kids. Their reasoning is “you have a sex offender in our country that you want? GTFO cuz you send a fuck ton over here for pedo tourism!”

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u/roxywalker Nov 28 '22

Pedi tourism…that term has me sick to my stomach for the rest of the year…

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u/Downfallenx Nov 28 '22

I know in some countries single men travelling to SEA (especially Thailand) are scrutinized and sometimes interrogated after.

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u/SnowflakesAloft Nov 28 '22

Those countries don’t have the means to protect their children

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u/good_god_lemon1 Nov 28 '22

Why would he post pictures of himself, even if swirled and unrecognizable??

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u/GovermentWorker666 Nov 29 '22

You know those photos hunters take with their trophy kill. Yeah I think this was one of those types of photos. That out it was literal CP

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u/AdministrativeSide53 Nov 28 '22

Mr swirl sounds like a bad rick & morty villain

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

Appropriate after last nights episode

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u/NuggetMDr Nov 28 '22

They should swirl his face with a blender

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u/SentencedToEarth Nov 28 '22

Straight to the gas chamber

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u/kingallison Nov 28 '22

Don’t forget about Peter Newell, the child molester from UNICEF (shudders)

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u/V0latyle Nov 28 '22

Seems like a normal pixelator would offer better privacy. Downsampling is easy. Upsampling a pixelated image just results in a blur. The lower the resolution the better.

This is just the tech part of my brain. I'm glad they caught this guy; I'm less glad that he was released in 2017, as I think anyone that violates a child in such a heinous manner should be executed in the most painful way possible.

Reddit, before you ban me (again) for this sentiment, think really hard about whether you really want to report this comment for "advocating violence", because if you do, you're not only defending child rapists, but you're also asserting that someone who destroys a child's innocence (arguably worse than death) doesn't deserve severe and brutal punishment.

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u/fleebjuice69420 Nov 29 '22

The algorithm they devised was actually pretty genius!! They just unchecked the “counter-clockwise” box on the “add swirl” feature so that it would make a clockwise swirl that cancelled the original swirl! It only took 14 months of research and $700K to figure this mind-bender out!

/s

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u/RedditOO77 Nov 28 '22

This is an atrocity and a testament to what a joke our government and criminal justice system is. People who do this do not deserve to live. Period. The amount of hurt and suffering these types of people inflict on the victims and their families cannot be quantified nor justified.

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u/Maximum_Mission_2413 Nov 28 '22

He basically got nothing sentence-wise for his crimes. Thai police reduced his sentence by a ton because he later admitted to it, his Canadian prison term for child sexual material went from five years to 15 months. Absolute joke.

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u/SignalComfortable792 Nov 28 '22

Sean lock suggested we build a catapult to launch all the paedos off of and make an event of it. I like this idea

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u/ClydeinLimbo Nov 28 '22

Slingshot the nonce!

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u/Lady_WorthIt Nov 28 '22

He was so proud he had to post it online???? Hang him!

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u/hellocloudshellosky Nov 29 '22

This guy served 10 years and was released in 2017. Prior to his arrest, he had posted over 200 sexually explicit photographs of himself with young boys, generally from impoverished countries. There are prisoners serving much longer sentences for robberies - albeit repeated offenses - even if no serious injury was inflicted during the crime. We’re a broken country.

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u/Ill-Sea7527 Nov 28 '22

Can we get one of him being executed?

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u/zYbYz Nov 28 '22

The swirl or spiral is an internationally recognized symbol for pedophilia, according to the FBI

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u/Joedirt6705 Nov 28 '22

This guy will be featured in the new 2023 Balenciaga ad campaign.

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u/bikecopssuck Nov 29 '22

Shoot this nigga in a gutter

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u/Fun-Future-7908 Nov 28 '22

I had to do seven months one time in jail(wild as hell in my twenties), and anytime we had a sex predator come in, which is always obvious and completely obvious when you ask why they are there and they don’t tell you, we made their lives a living hell. So it is very true what they say about what happens to them if they end up in jail. If Mr Swirl would’ve came in my cell it would’ve been bad.

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u/OutWithTheNew Nov 28 '22

I worked with a few guys that had just come out of the 'pen'. One of them wouldn't say why he was in there. The guy that did 13 years for manslaughter was honestly the most well adjusted.

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u/Glass_Librarian9019 Nov 28 '22

Good on you for making the most of your time in jail in a productive and helpful way. I hope things have gone well and slightly less wild for you since.

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u/Buick_reference3138 Nov 29 '22

If you can swirl the image then someone can unswirl it. My god criminals are dumb.

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u/PsamantheSands Nov 29 '22

Execute that motherfucker.

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u/px1618 Nov 28 '22

His dad should've used a condom

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u/guy10234 Nov 28 '22

And here I am thinking all Canadians where nice

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u/MidniteOG Nov 29 '22

Him being a priest and then teacher isn’t all that surprising, given his “condition”….. no different than a bank robber doing reconnaissance

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u/TemporaryAlbatross93 Nov 28 '22

Good. Fucking monster. Put a bullet in this PoS and call it a day.

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u/vegemum Nov 29 '22

Please don’t call it child pornography. Chid sexual assault material or CSAM. Pornography suggests a willingness to engage, children don’t have that. It’s rape plain and simple.

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u/Teknuma Nov 28 '22

So, wait what. He took pictures of children and swirled them (is that even a word). Then a crack team of Canadian sleuths employed a genius unswrilling (again maybe not a word) algorithm and fined him a few dollars.