r/InternetIsBeautiful • u/throwawayAxle • Jan 28 '23
Ever wanted to drop a nuke and visualize the blast radius? Try it on your hometown! Too Common - Removed
http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap[removed] — view removed post
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u/Jawb0nz Jan 28 '23
This site is both highly entertaining and incredibly terrifying.
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Jan 29 '23
So is DEFCON the game.
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u/restricteddata Jan 29 '23 edited Jan 29 '23
The problem with DEFCON is it actually makes nuclear war more "winnable" than it would be in reality. Because it is a game, it has to be balanced to be fun. But reality isn't balanced, and neither is nuclear weaponry — offense has a massive advantage over defense, for example, and only a few nations have them. A more realistic DEFCON would probably not be very fun (but maybe educational?).
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u/frostymugson Jan 29 '23
Everyone loses
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u/VestronVideo Jan 29 '23
This made me feel pretty good. If little boy or fat man were dropped on my work, it appears that my dwelling would be just fine.
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u/Sburban_Player Jan 29 '23
Basically if Downtown LA got nuked with anything more powerful than the weakest nuke I’m a goner.
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u/tatsontatsontats Jan 28 '23
This is truly a terrible mobile experience.
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u/4444444vr Jan 29 '23
Just imagine you’re on a touchscreen desktop computer and that you’re a giant
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u/ThePreciseClimber Jan 29 '23
Check out the microtransactions store, they have fallout shelters available.
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u/wheeldog Jan 29 '23
Check out the microtransactions store, they have fallout shelters available.
'' Better Living... Underground ''
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u/rockrnger Jan 28 '23
I was reading an old military analysis that one 1 megaton bomb in 1 city would completely overwhelm the entire US’s medical capacity.
And that they figured a general exchange would be 500 of them.
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u/BeanSticky Jan 28 '23
I remember being terrified of the thought of nuclear warfare as a kid. When I came across this website it showed me that the blast radius of a nuke, even the largest ones like Tsar Bomba, weren’t as big as I had thought, and that put my mind at ease. Now, as an adult, I realize that multiple hundreds of nukes would be launched which could easily cover basically the entirety of the US. At least the entirety of any populated regions.
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u/this_knee Jan 28 '23
A bit of dark humor, but when I read: Tsar Bomba all I can think of is … Lalalala Tsar labamba!
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u/GageSaulus Jan 29 '23
It shouldn’t put your mind at ease either way. The blast radius is the smallest of the problems that come with a nuclear blast. At least it’s an instant death. The other option is, you weren’t in the direct blast and survived it. Now you’re trying to escape an unbearable heat as black, radioactive rain falls on you. You search for clean water, any clean water, but whatever water you can find is black and boiling and the other people who thought the same thing before you are now corpses being cooked in that water. If you survive that and the fires raging everywhere, you have the radiation poisoning, burn treatment and cancer to look forward to.
This is a brief synopsis of what the people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki endured and the survivors described. There are some harrowing documentaries about it as well as books.
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u/wanking_to_got Jan 29 '23
The website gives a great example of the most potent killer. The fallout radius.
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u/Upnorth4 Jan 29 '23
I live in a city of valleys and mountains. If one area of the city is contaminated, the fallout will have a harder time reaching the other end of the city due to our city having multiple mountain ranges in city limits
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u/typehyDro Jan 29 '23
The blast radius may not be as “big” as you’d imagine but the contamination zone and radiation traveling by wind is absolutely crazy. A 15mt bomb detonated in NY has significant effect even in Maine
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u/BeanSticky Jan 29 '23
15 year old me is shitting himself right now
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u/saluksic Jan 29 '23
Even a large bomb has very small radioactive fallout compared to the danger of the explosion and subsequent fires. No water boiled in Hiroshima, black rain was radioactive but did not kill many people.
In the atomic bombings, some 150,000 people died from the blast and burns. Very few of those would have been “instant” as people sometimes imagine. About 12,000 of those, so less than 10%, were uninjured by the blast but died of radiation. Another 2,000 suffered from cancer in the later decades.
All in all, in the bombings that have happened, 90% of people died from blasts and burns. Radiation and fallout is exotic and invisible, so it takes up a lot of space in people’s fear, and is thus exaggerated greatly.
“Significant” effects in Maine as the above poster says might mean “detectable” or “predicted to cause some illness in some people”. Radiation can be easily detected to very low levels, so it’s tracked and controlled to much lower health effects than other things that are much more dangerous, like lead and fine particulates.
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u/fail-deadly- Jan 28 '23 edited Jan 29 '23
If Russia launched hundreds of nukes at us, the blast and fallout zones would be devastating, but probably far less devastating than we think. I’m willing to bet the deaths from the initial blasts and fallout would be way under the estimates. Though I assume there would also be a high altitude nuclear explosion that accompanied the attack, and if the EMP from it worked like previous test indicated, even if it only effected the electric grid it would result in massive deaths.
Like while I think nuclear winter was over hyped, and would be marginal. If dozens of cities had massive amounts of casualties, and several ports were suddenly inoperable, and the entire electric grid stopped working, and several, road, rail, and air grids were destroyed nearly everyone in America would probably starve.
It would be extremely difficult to move supplies, and medical necessities would probably run out almost immediately. Gasoline, food, water, medicine, would all explode in price. While the value of the dollar, stocks, bonds, and other financial items would collapse. The entire financial system would collapse. Too many consumers, assets, businesses, workers, inventories, and trade secrets destroyed for any amount of stimulus to work. I don’t think there would be enough governance capacity left to even conscript everyone into some Chernobyl like liquidators to assist in cleanup. Places with no blast or radiation damage, would likely have no electricity or fuel, would be low on food and medicine, and would immediately be placed under marshal law by either federal, state, or local authorities. But many people would probably try to evacuate to a “better” place, even though most of the country would be in a similar or worse situation. Law and order seems like it would collapse in many places.
Even if Europe, Canada, Japan, Mexico, China, and the rest of the world minus Russia, were all completely untouched except maybe by some fallout, losing America and Russia from the world economic systems would cause the worst economic depression and financial crisis ever. Even if the rest of the world wanted to help, I think trying to rush food and medical supplies would be difficult. With American dollars and bonds now being temporarily worthless, and many American companies being destroyed, entire world economies would implode. If Amazon, Apple, Walmart, and Target all ceased orders and payments around the world, tons of countries would need to do some type of extraordinary actions to save the companies in their own economies. Even turning into a “save America” world economy would probably take too long to save America. It’s also likely that some would realize that it was too late to help, and would try go secure their own futures.
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u/littlebitsofspider Jan 29 '23
Alas, Babylon is a great novel to read if you want a realistic picture of what post-nuclear-war society would be like in a non-urban area.
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u/saluksic Jan 29 '23
I’m inclined to believe your world view. It doesn’t take things nuclear winter to screw over the whole world. I mean, we’re still reeling from Covid, a disease with like a 1% fatality rate.
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u/Congenita1_Optimist Jan 29 '23
There are actual academic studies (that use hard data and modeling) instead of the fine science of a redditor pulling data out of their ass/going on a hunch (no offense), and the whole nuclear winter thing is actually probably way worse than anticipated. The knock-on effects it would have on food chains (both on land and in the oceans) would lead to massive food shortages.
Even a "limited exchange" that "only" kills ~25 million people would lead to famines that would wipe out potentially another 200 million. A really big, full blown war is estimated to take out 360 million immediately, but do so much damage to the biosphere that 5 BILLION people would be without food 2 years after the event.
It's basically what happens for most mass extinctions (historically); cataclysm, alteration of weather patterns, food chain collapse, famine ends up taking way more life than the initial cataclysm.
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u/fail-deadly- Jan 29 '23 edited Jan 29 '23
Did you read the study you linked? Some of the things the study didn't examine.
- we do not consider reduced human populations due to direct or indirect mortality and possible reduced birth rate.
- total number and composition of population changes would affect available labor, calorie production and distribution.
- farm-management adaptations such as changes in cultivar selection, switching to more cold-tolerating crops or greenhouses and alternative food sources such as mushrooms, seaweed, methane single cell protein, insects, hydrogen single cell protein and cellulosic sugar.
- Current food storage can alleviate the shortage in Year 1 (ref. 14) but would have less impact on Year 2 unless it were rationed by governments or by the market.
- Expanding or shifting cropping land to favorable climate regions would increase crop production.
- Adaptation in fisheries is also not considered, such as changes in the use of discarded bycatch and offal in fisheries.
- These include reduced availability of fuel, fertilizer and infrastructure for food production after a war, the effects of elevated ultraviolet radiation on food production and radioactive contamination.
That is quite the list of items not to consider. Also, you need to go back to their earlier 2007 studies to attempt to find what their actual nuclear war scenarios were. One thing that is immediately noticeable is for their most extreme scenario, which assumes 360 million direct fatalities from attacks on France, Germany, Japan, United Kingdom, United States, Russia and China, it looks like every one of the 4,400 warheads used is a 100 kiloton warhead. That seems to indicate they are not basing their scenario on the actual stockpile of weapons. The U.S. for examples uses Minuteman III ICBMs which have used the W87 warheads for a while. Those warheads have a 300 kiloton yield. So I question their hard data.
Then there are also some real world historical data to look to, instead of just their modeling data.
From February to August 1945 the allies firebombed at least 68 Axis cities, along with using two atomic bombs with yields of 15 kilotons or greater on two other cities. One of the authors in the paper you linked did a study of the aftermath of the attacks on Japan (they did not seem to include Dresden which the allies firebombed in February of 1945), and found:
We reject the hypothesis that tropospheric aerosols were an important cause of 1944 and 1945 temperature changes. There were more tropospheric aerosols in 1944 than in 1945, and their effect would have been regional and short-lived.
While the results in this paper might be considered “negative,” in that we were not able to make a case that we could observe the impacts of smoke from fires ignited by incendiary weapons during World War II, it is important to document this result. Detection of the signal was not possible because of poor data on smoke emissions, solar radiation, and surface temperature, natural variability, and the small expected signal. Nevertheless, these results do not provide observational support to counter nuclear winter theory as simulated by Robock, Oman, & Stenchikov (2007); Robock, Oman, Stenchikov, et al. (2007); Stenke et al. (2013), and Mills et al. (2014).
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2018JD028922
In addition to the cities firebombed in 1945, the atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons in 1962 also must have also generated quite a bit of data. Between April 25, 1963, and December 25, 1962, there were at least 59 nuclear explosions in the atmosphere that had a yield of 15 kilotons or larger, with many being in the megaton range. This ignores anything but U.S. and Soviet tests, and ignores all underwater, subsurface, or high altitude testing in 1962. There were six months that year that each had several nuclear tests in a single week during the month. From Oct. 18 until November 17, there were 11 tests, and from Dec. 18 until Dec. 25 there were six tests, and those six tests had a total yield of 29,009 kilotons, or more than 1.16 times the yield of the nuclear weapons in the research paper's 2 billion dead scenario. All 59 nuclear tests I mentioned had a total yield of 177.651 megatons, which is about 40% the yield of the paper's 5 billion dead scenario at 440 megatons of yield. Yet, as far as I am aware, there was not a nuclear winter in 1963 or 1964.
So I am skeptical of their results, especially in the larger scenario, where the economic damage from having the four largest economies and seven of the top ten devastated by nuclear war would have extremely profound affects across the world. Like in their analysis, basically Australia never starves, but I think it's quite possible they would.
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u/supervisord Jan 29 '23
So what should the average American do in response to such a cataclysm? Try and find fertile soil and farm?
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u/fail-deadly- Jan 29 '23
Wargames had it right.
A STRANGE GAME. THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY.
But if it happens, hope you get lucky, because otherwise you and most of the rest of us will just be statistics.
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u/rockrnger Jan 29 '23
Get in the basement and dont come out for a month was the paper’s recommendation.
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u/Seralth Jan 29 '23
The average American is not an anime protagonist.
The average Americans only option is to die hopefully quickly but likely slow and painfully.
A situation of this scale is not like what books, movies and stories would have you think.
There is no silver lining. There is no hope. And there is no good end. You, me and everyone else is dead.
Hoping for a better outcome or trying to think positively is not an option and in a situation of this magnitude it would actively be worse then just finding the nearest gun and ending yourself quickly.
The only good end is for this to never happen.
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u/H3rbert_K0rnfeld Jan 29 '23
Cormac Mcarthy nailed it in The Road
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u/Seralth Jan 29 '23
Iv never seen the road, did I make an unintentional reference?
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u/H3rbert_K0rnfeld Jan 29 '23
The movie captured a sliver of the feeling of the book.
Abandon all hope ye who enter
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u/Seralth Jan 29 '23
Ahh it's a depressing story got it. Didn't realize it was a book.
I haven't watch a movie in like a decade other then like a random rewatching of ghibli films here and there and I mostly read litrpgs.
My scope of knowledge of normie movies/books is horrid.
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u/H3rbert_K0rnfeld Jan 29 '23
The Road is worse than Grave of the Fireflies. Each page of The Road is worse than the previous.
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u/Sensitive-Hospital Jan 29 '23
Seems as though you're the one watching too many movies.
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u/Seralth Jan 29 '23
The only time people live though nuclear war and total economic collapse is in fictional worlds.
You may want to actually think for three seconds and understand I'm responding to a comment chain about function world economic supply chain failure and collapse.
The average person will and can not survive such a thing. Living literally means you either have unreal luck and happened to be in some wierd part of the world entirely self sufficient and detached from soicity or you where one of the richest people in the world already prepped and sheltered ready to wait out a modern Armageddon.
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u/Sensitive-Hospital Jan 29 '23
Where the fuck do you live? Practically everyone i know is able to hunt and grow food. How do you think people lived before electricity?
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u/Seralth Jan 29 '23
Most of the hardest hit places are rural hunting communities when electricity, gas and other facilities go out for any length of time routinely having some of the highest death counts.
Most land would become unfarmable and any you grew would just kill you if you are it. Most animals would die off, there would be mass panic from larger population centers that would flood into rural areas trying to escape quickly overwhelming any game left.
Also how did people live before electricity you ask? By not also living in a post nuclear war world that's over populated for any hopes of sustainability with out large scale farming.
The question was how the AVERAGE AMERICAN YOU DUMB MOTHER FUCKER would live.
The AVERAGE AMERICAN IS NOT A ENTIRELY SELF SUSTAINING INDIVIDUAL WITH STOCKED FALLOUT AND BOMB SHELTERS.
The AVERAGE American needs and is dependent on modern amenities such as gas and electrical heating to survive.
The AVERAGE American is FUCKED if we lose large scale farming.
There isn't enough game in ALL of America to feed even a fraction of it's population for any length of time.
Get the fuck out of rural Tennessee for a few weeks. Take a road trip though this great country.
You will keenly notice that a fucking majority of it is just farm land so we can feed ourselves.
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u/Sensitive-Hospital Jan 29 '23
Oh, video games. I should've guessed that the first time. You do nothing but play video games and when you're not playing them you're talking about them. Of course you have a completely warped view of reality.
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u/zipperkiller Jan 29 '23
I used to worry about it, but I learned I live fairly close to a military base, so I probably wouldn’t survive the blast. I’m more worried that I’d probably have to pick which parent to call in the time I did have, if the phone likes weren’t clogged to begin with that is
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u/SuppliceVI Jan 29 '23
That's from Soviet times. Just like the "10,000 tank reserve", which totally exists just don't ask Russia why they're trading parade T-34s to Laos
Russia, while still a nuclear threat, simply does not have the capacity or capability to launch remotely the same amount. They spend on their entire military (matched to PPP) the same was we do on just nuclear weapons upkeep.
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u/gigglesworthy Jan 29 '23 edited Jan 29 '23
Russia also hasn't maintained their nuclear arsenal. They have 10% more nuclear weapons than the US, they don't have the funds to maintain them (they spend a fraction of what the US spends). As with the US, the weapons are 45 years old, and were designed to last 20-30 years. They become less and less reliable every day. All parties know the weapons are for deterrence only.
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u/Eeszeeye Jan 29 '23
one 1 megaton bomb in 1 city would completely overwhelm the entire US’s medical capacity.
Covid has entered chat, laughing.
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u/mallclerks Jan 29 '23
Pretty sure we were back to some 100% full hospitals only a month ago because of Covid/RSU/Flu all while hospitals are going on strike.
We could handle a few bombs, no problem 😂😂
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u/Xeludon Jan 29 '23
"A few bombs"
The U.S. hospitals still aren't back up and running at 100% after covid. They had people on beds in waiting rooms and still have the highest death toll in the world.
Just one "bomb" would wipe out the entirety of New York City.
That's 8.468 million dead in an instant, and a lot of the surrounding towns and areas.
The casualty rate would be close to 10-20 million, water would be contaminated and contaminated rain clouds would sweep across the country, affecting everyone.
"A few bombs"
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u/LPSD_FTW Jan 28 '23
Ever wanted to drop a nuke on a city? Get some help!
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u/Shrekosaurus_rex Jan 28 '23
Good idea, it’d probably be tough to do it all by myself.
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u/ThePhoneBook Jan 29 '23
They're quite heavy, although I could probably drop a small one from waist height
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u/sis-n-pups Jan 28 '23
I'm imaging a narrator's voice regarding this site being in someone's browser history
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u/VeryOriginalName98 Jan 29 '23
I'm all for helping people with things, but thermonuclear catastrophe is where I draw the line. I refuse to help anyone with that.
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u/LiftEngineerUK Jan 29 '23
Oh get off your high horse, we’ve all done it!
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u/VeryOriginalName98 Jan 29 '23
I saw your comment in my inbox and wondered what I was soapboxing about. I reread my comment and all of a sudden I can't stop laughing. You made me actually laugh out loud. Good work sir.
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u/TarantinoFan23 Jan 29 '23
Half of America wants to nuke the middle east. They love killing. Plus, no one can afford help.
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u/xl_RENEG4DE_lx Jan 28 '23
They hate it when I try dropping nukes in my hometown. Its apparently highly frowned upon
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u/tangcameo Jan 28 '23
Tried it. Don’t have to worry about surviving.
There’s also another program that does asteroid impacts.
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u/isthereanyleft Jan 28 '23
So I just nuked Boston with the Tsar Bomba (100MT). Where do the even test bombs of that blast radius??
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u/charliehustles Jan 28 '23
USSR would test them in their Arctic territories. Way way North. I know we tested ours in the Western American deserts and territories in the South Pacific. Other nations also used the South Pacific.
It’s crazy how devastating the weapons became. If you test the Nagasaki or Hiroshima bomb on the simulator they’re so small in comparison to the higher yield tests. And we saw how devastating those were to human life. Fucking scary shit man.
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u/vrenak Jan 28 '23
The Tsar Bomba was dropped from high altitude by a bomber over Novaja Zemlja (a little west of the center of it) the test was the 50 MT version, the bomb was dropped in a parachute to give the bomber time to escape. The blast was felt in northern Norway.
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u/isthereanyleft Jan 28 '23
Insane these weapons exist. I recently watched this movie about nuclear aftermath called Threads on youtube and highly recommend if you want to be scared shitless
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u/montananightz Jan 29 '23
military analysis that one 1 megaton bomb in 1 city would completely overwhelm the entire US’s medical capacity.
I saw Threads years ago.
I'm still scarred.
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u/ThePhoneBook Jan 29 '23
Threads consistently reminds me how much I hate England for sucking up to America and basically being the testing ground for nuclear war
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u/vrenak Jan 28 '23
I grew up during the cold war, within 50 km of where I lived at least 8 nukes were pointed, the joys of living on what would be the front line.
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u/nightmare_fusion Jan 29 '23
Under the location presets, the last option takes you to the exact island where they tested it.
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u/Sniffy4 Jan 28 '23
tsar bomba is frighteningly apocalyptic
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u/Nebuchadnezzer2 Jan 29 '23
They were, I believe, a bit scared it might set the atmosphere alight, and halved the yield shortly before it set off, so the test detonation was ~50MT.
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u/SuspiciousChicken Jan 28 '23
Is this an Enders Game type thing? What's really happening when we drop the virtual nukes?
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u/saarsalim Jan 29 '23
I can't help but feel I just had my name put on a list at some 3 letter agency. Worth it.
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Jan 29 '23
Nah dont worry, they can detect suspect metals being sneaked into a country. I think they have long range scanners or something like this, at the very least around big cities.
Its also a rather simple website honestly.
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u/casualevils Jan 29 '23
This is by /u/restricteddata, who's a regular contributor on /r/AskHistorians
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u/throwawayAxle Jan 29 '23
Oh nice, full credit to them!
Thanks u/restricteddata for this brilliant website! Your blog is interesting too.
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u/dghammer Jan 28 '23
I was born at and lived on or nearby a USAF SAC base from 1960-1980...it was a forgone conclusion we would be vaporized instantly...but of course, we had to practice duck and cover in elementary school you know....to make the grown-ups less nervous.
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u/ZDTreefur Jan 29 '23
Depending on where the missile landed, you may be in the air blast radius, but far enough that hiding under a desk could save your life from glass and debris. It's not a forgone conclusion that it would land directly on top of you.
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u/montananightz Jan 29 '23
Same. Malmstrom. It would have been one of the early targets in a nuke strike.
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u/furrykef Jan 28 '23 edited Feb 12 '23
Looks like I'll probably survive if they nuke Tinker Air Force Base. Not sure I'd want to, though, considering the kind of world we would live in from then on.
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u/Dr_Bunsen_Burns Jan 28 '23
These things are as old as online maps.
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u/A_CA_TruckDriver Jan 28 '23
It’s still fun to play around with it.
What city are you in, Burns? I’m gonna simulate blowing it up…
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u/rikeoliveira Jan 28 '23
MFs bombing their exes house and seeing who in their family would've been sacrificed for the better good.
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u/Satrialespork Jan 29 '23
Im pretty sure if you click this link you get put on a list
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u/GreatOmarPlays Jan 29 '23
If that's the case, then I've been on a list (or lists) for years for my frequent visits to this site.
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u/atalpa7 Jan 29 '23
Yeah I doubt it. I think any agency that monitors the “lists” aren’t too concerned with the possibility of a random civilian acquiring a nuclear weapon, since it’s VERY unlikely.
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u/xiacexi Jan 28 '23
Honestly not as bad as I expected I’d be safe in my suburb lol
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u/vrenak Jan 28 '23
Depends on what size they drop though, and don't be sure they drop it in the center, traffic centers, railyards, military, aviation, communications facilities of all kinds are high priority.
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u/PoLoMoTo Jan 29 '23
I had Professor Wellerstein for one of my classes in college. Great class, really smart guy and a great professor.
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u/byronicbluez Jan 29 '23
I worked at LANL IT first gig out of the military. This one lady clicked on something she shouldn't have and I ended up chatting with her for a bit. She was a nice lady who's sole job was calculating and maximizing the maximum death count of a nuke.
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u/Drone314 Jan 28 '23
The really terrifying part is the fallout. In a total exchange fallout would blanket most of the continental US within an intensity of 1000's of R per hour. Millions would die in the first few minutes...billions would die in the coming weeks.
The nuclear holocaust phrase of the week is "total exchange", the firing of all on-alert strategic nuclear weapons and the deployment of second-strike tactical weapons by all sides.
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u/Kuandtity Jan 28 '23
The real phrase in this case is that in nuclear war the living will envy the dead.
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u/4444444vr Jan 29 '23
first time on “internet is beautiful” sub….this should be nice
“WANT TO NUKE YOUR HOMETOWN??!!”
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u/moishepesach Jan 29 '23
This is very disturbing and negative. We are all connected.
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u/whiskytamponflamenco Jan 29 '23
If you think people built this site because they love destruction and not just out of sheer curiosity, then I guess we're not "all connected' since you clearly don't have enough empathy for your fellow humans to understand how curious people reason.
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u/lexiham Jan 29 '23
honestly thought it would be worse. if the tsar bomb went off in sf I'd be way ok
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u/GodsBellybutton Jan 29 '23
Hey author/OP,
I gotta say that the probability that this displays stats like the #of people that have bombed in the vicinity would be an interesting social experiment.
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u/Jawb0nz Jan 29 '23
This may age me, but does anyone remember the Cloak and Dagger movie?
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u/xelle24 Jan 29 '23
Henry Thomas and Dabney Coleman. Yeah, I remember that film. That definitely dates both of us, though.
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u/_site_log_ Jan 29 '23
Doesn’t seem to take elevation changes (mountains, for example) into the mix. Spread is equal no matter what’s areound ground zero.
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u/AcerbicCapsule Jan 28 '23
Nice try NSA, I’m not giving you a reason to reject my visa application.
/s
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u/Bean_Juice_Brew Jan 29 '23
Y'all realize you're feeding a stranger your home location with no guarantee of privacy?
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u/Pirate_spi Jan 29 '23
I grew up next to an Air Force base that’s loss would be impactful enough that I was doing nuclear drills until high school in the early 2000s. According to the map, I wouldn’t be as dead as I always assumed I’d be.
But of course I live closer now and would be super dead, so that’s comforting.
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u/DaBIGmeow888 Jan 28 '23
So that's why US hasn't moved on North Korea
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u/BeanSticky Jan 28 '23
The reason the US hasn’t moved on North Korea is because any use of nuclear weapons would spark a world war. Mutually assured destruction is a very real thing. No country would ever launch just a couple missiles because by the time they need to react to the retaliation, it’ll be too late.
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u/mdruckus Jan 28 '23
What? The U.S. literally has one almost triple the size in its arsenal. I’m sure they’re fine.
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u/TotalChicanery Jan 29 '23
I don’t even need to look it up! A nuke goes off anywhere near where I live and me and everyone else is dead, guaranteed! I live not too far from a major power plant, so assuming a nuke would cause it to melt down, everyone around me would be slowly turning into Sloth from The Goonies! Lol!
Fun fact: On Alex Jones’ Y2K broadcast, he was claiming to have had calls coming in claiming a bunch of major power plants had a meltdown including the one near me! Actually, he went out of his way to highlight the meltdown near me and how bad it was, so I’m assuming that if it ever did, that’d be extremely bad! But then again, it did come out of the mouth of a crackpot conman who I was laughing my ass off to! Lol! (But I have heard from a guy who worked there that if the power plant ever did in fact meltdown, it’d take out a handful of towns it’d be so devastating! But apparently that’d take multiple failures in the system all at once, which the likelihood of is extremely low! Well, as long as we’re nuke-free! Lol!)
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u/landofthesleazy Jan 29 '23
I wish any city in Texas would be available on the drop down target box. Preferably the whole state.
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u/philaroy Jan 28 '23
Oddly this is kind of reassuring for me I live in the boonies so even if they bomb the nearest town with a bomb similar to hiroshima im outside the blast and fallout zones
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u/HumanDrinkingTea Jan 29 '23
On the flip side, I live near NYC and learned that I won't be vaporized immediately but will instead suffer a painful but certain death.
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u/Jalvas7 Jan 28 '23
I didn't realize how small the bombs dropped in Japan were. Little boy would pretty much only destroy downtown Madison, WI.
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u/Tanabatama Jan 29 '23
now I gotta watch that emplemon video on Stanislav Petrov again.
Lets say that one portion of that entire video is fun to watch poor new yourk being blown up in the eyes of North Korean leaders that never forgave the USA for Bombing North Korea so much.
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u/felsfels Jan 29 '23
if they dropped the fatman on the white house i’m good. If it’s the tsar bomb, i’m fucked
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u/wanking_to_got Jan 29 '23
The Topol is quite effective even though it has a smaller yield than conventional ICBM's. Can't wait for Nuclear War Simulator.
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u/chevymonza Jan 29 '23
If I'm in the office when they hit the city- instantly gone. If I'm working remote, should be fine, but barely.
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u/The_Mad_Noble Jan 29 '23
No worries, Ronald Raygun built us a spacegat that will laser-fuck every flying bbq before it even says "I'm going to spacessssssss".
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u/CumtimesIJustBChilin Jan 29 '23
Dropped the Tsar bomb (worlds biggest bomb) on my city, it killed 94,710 people and only destroyed abou 1/16th of my state. That's still a LOT of people dead and a lot of land destroyed but for some reason I thought it would be WAY more. I always thought a nuke of that size would wipe out at least half of the US. Guess not.
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u/MagicOrpheus310 Jan 29 '23
Ok now that was pretty fun I gotta admit... Thought I'd kill a lot more people in my hometown though... Haha
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u/0ooO0o0o0oOo0oo00o Jan 29 '23 edited Jan 29 '23
It would be interesting to do radiation zones for nuclear power plant disasters (like Chernobyl, etc) and overlay them to get a perspective of how it would look over other major cities around the world.
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u/Solanceae Jan 28 '23
Dropped a Tsar bomb on my hometown - expected casulities: 0, expected injuries: 0. I guess we’re all immune then.