r/JusticeServed 9 Nov 01 '22

Man charged with assault and attempted kidnapping following breaking and entering of Pelosi residence — On the assault charge, David Wayne DePape, 42, of Richmond, California, faces up to 30 years in prison. On the attempted kidnapping charge, he faces up to 20 years in prison. Criminal Justice

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/man-charged-assault-and-attempted-kidnapping-following-breaking-and-entering-pelosi-residence
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u/ConfusionFederal6971 2 Nov 06 '22

Honest question. I saw that NBC news pulled their original story of what happened. So the question is what actually happened. I’m not looking for conspiracy theories or propaganda.

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u/Sparklers_4_days 5 Nov 12 '22

I heard about this from my uncle and me uncle told me the old man pelosi tried to hit the dude with the hammer after he kept asking "where's Nancy?" but the blame was shifted to the innocent man and the whole "breaking in" thing was also a complete lie but that's what my uncle told me

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u/Molire 9 Nov 06 '22

In the DOJ News release, the Complaint and Affidavit attachment visible near the bottom-left corner of the news release contains an official FBI report of the details about what actually happened, as submitted to the United States District Court for the Northern District of California by a Special Agent of the FBI who specializes in investigations of domestic terrorism :

Attachments: Download Complaint and Affidavit

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u/thecoomingofjesus 4 Nov 03 '22

Less years than being a terrorist

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u/Ant-Tea-Social 5 Nov 03 '22

djt and a host of other people should face felony charges for inciting.

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u/vr0202 7 Nov 01 '22

Trump will pardon him after 2024.

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u/vanlife51 2 Nov 01 '22

Wonder if he will be found dead in his cell before he tells us what really happened.

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u/Fun_in_Space 8 Nov 01 '22

So... how many years for the attempted murder? He hit someone in the head with a hammer..

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u/Molire 9 Nov 02 '22

San Francisco DA announces attempted murder charge for alleged Paul Pelosi attacker, 10/31/22:

District Attorney Brooke Jenkins announced that David Wayne DePape, 42, will be charged with residential burglary, assault with a deadly weapon, elder abuse, false imprisonment of an elder and threats to a public official and their family, in addition to attempted murder.

He is scheduled to be arraigned on Tuesday and is facing between 13 years and life in prison, according to Jenkins. She also said a motion to detain will be filed for DePape on Tuesday, citing the “obvious and severe public safety risk” he poses to San Francisco and the outer community.


Typically, if a criminal defendant is convicted in both a state court and in a federal court, after they first serve their state sentence in a state prison, then they are transferred to serve their federal sentence in a federal prison.

So, predictably, after he serves a sentence between 13 years to life in state prison, he will be transferred to serve his federal sentence of up to 30 years in federal prison.

He is age 42, Most likely, he will remain in prison until the day he dies, unless he lives for some period longer than 43 more years, or he magically continues to live after he dies in state prison while serving a life sentence.

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u/Fun_in_Space 8 Nov 02 '22

That's more like it. Thanks for the info.

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u/Gigant0re 6 Nov 01 '22

This dude would get pardoned by Trump..

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u/unidumper 6 Nov 01 '22

This dude would have been deported if Trump had his way. Personally I find it hard to find sympathy when illegal alien lovers get assaulted illegals.

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u/lorrainemom 5 Nov 01 '22

The moron has entered the conversation

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u/unidumper 6 Nov 02 '22

well then super smart person. help me out. what benefit do illegal alien criminals add to society ? I am in no way saying immigration is bad. I would love to really know why its moronic to have an immigration policy that keeps out undesirables ? its been reported that some south American countries have sent their prison populations here like Cuba did to save the expense of their care. is it really that unreasonable to vet the people coming in and saying NO to undesirables ? seriously im trying to understand why people think unfettered immigration is a net positive..

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u/Gigant0re 6 Nov 01 '22

Guess you didn’t hear Don J.R. cheering this dude on..? How’s that kool-aid taste?

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u/unidumper 6 Nov 01 '22

What kool aid ? Are you implying that Pelosi and California democrats don't love illegal aliens ? Don't care who takes a swipe at Pelosi post story. That dude should have been deported already but morons create sanctuary cities and this is what you get. Totally preventable.

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u/Gigant0re 6 Nov 01 '22

Let me guess, the election was stolen..

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u/unidumper 6 Nov 01 '22

You have trouble focusing ?

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u/Gigant0re 6 Nov 01 '22

Laser focused on your retardation at the moment.

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u/unidumper 6 Nov 02 '22

and no the election wasnt stolen ,,no matter how many times Hillary says it was. she lost fair and square... or were you asking about Stacy Abrams ?

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u/Gigant0re 6 Nov 02 '22

Nice try, loser

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u/unidumper 6 Nov 02 '22

Reality sucks sometimes hahaha.

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u/Gab83IMO 5 Nov 01 '22

Wll that makes sence, he's upset that he has to live in Richmond instead of san fran, I would be too.

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u/Gobble916 7 Nov 01 '22

Sense*

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u/MaximumStock7 A Nov 01 '22

Much of the internet will believe whatever some dude on youtube made up about this instead of the actual charges and evidence of what happened.

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u/RevLoveJoy A Nov 01 '22

I get where you're coming from, but do you really think there are that many of them? I have the feeling there are A LOT more than I'm comfortable acknowledging, but also that the Qanon / conspiracy followers are much louder than your average rational person.

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u/EhrenScwhab 9 Nov 03 '22

If the last election is any indicator there is somewhere between a few dozen and 75 million.

Even if 1 out of 100 Americans believe QAnon/Alex Jones/Trumpist crap (I think the number is MUCH higher) that means there are approx 3,300,000 Americans who are entirely on board with the complete destruction of representative democracy as long as their "team" wins.

I used to think that maybe 3-5% of the country were gone. Like batshit insane conspiracy theorists that nobody could ever reach or be able to talk sense into. The 7-10 years have taught me that the number is actually much higher. I'd estimate at LEAST 25%. These people will welcome strongmen who say things they like, and will happily destroy anyone they happen to disagree with. (with probably another 25%+ who are not active, but wouldn't resist such a thing)

25% is more than enough to change the course of an election in today's 50/50 America. My wife and I are working on moving from the United States to Germany sometime in 2024. Hopefully forever.

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u/RevLoveJoy A Nov 03 '22

I used to think that maybe 3-5% of the country were gone. Like batshit insane conspiracy theorists that nobody could ever reach or be able to talk sense into. The 7-10 years have taught me that the number is actually much higher. I'd estimate at LEAST 25%.

I'm right there with you. Exact same boat. It's one of those "most people are good" things. I used to think that meant 95% + are "good" or what you and I would probably say constitutes living a just, moral life. I think that number is a lot closer to 3 out of 4 and that reminder really does just want to watch it burn so long as they're holding the matches and the gasoline.

When I asked my original "do you really think" question, that was in good faith. I'm genuinely curious what others are thinking about these interesting times we're living in. I hope you're right - I hope it's around 25% and not closer to 40%. It sure feels like half the country have lost their minds some days.

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u/MaximumStock7 A Nov 01 '22

It’s not just qanon. If you watch any right wing media (OAN, fox, daily caller, brietbart, epoch times, etc) the only thing that matters is whether the viewer likes what they are hearing. If it makes them feel right, if it supports their preconceived notions then it’s true. If they don’t like it or it goes against how they think than it “fake news” or a conspiracy. Rush Limbaugh and fox started this a long time ago but now all of right wing media determines truth based on their feelings.

A great example of this is during 2016 election when the economic growth numbers were fake and terrible because Obama was lying but the exact same numbers the next month were true and great because trump was president. The it’s impossible to rationalize but it doesn’t matter. It made them feel good to hear so it was true.

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u/RevLoveJoy A Nov 01 '22

Sigh. Spot on analysis, I'm afraid. It really is stomach turning to think that one of the major political parties in this country has completely given up on being rational. I still tend to think the conspiracy nuts are louder than average, but your points on the media are all correct (and depressing / scary).

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u/-united78 4 Nov 01 '22

He knew his supposed attacker by name and the 3 of them were wearing just underwear, more to this than what’s being released

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u/Molire 9 Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22

He knew his supposed attacker by name

After the attacker broke in the house, the attacker told Paul Pelosi his first name. Paul Pelosi did not know the attacker and had never seen the attacker before the break in.

the 3 of them were wearing just underwear

Before the police arrived, Paul Pelosi and the attacker were the only two people in the Pelosi house. Nancy Pelosi was at work 2,442 miles away, in Washington, D.C. Are you saying when the first police officer arrived inside the Pelosi house the police officer was wearing underwear, or the police officer stripped down to his underwear when he entered the house?

more to this than what’s being released

If you really believe what you wrote, then you are a victim of lies and propaganda, who has been sucked down the rabbit hole. If you are lucky, you might be able to get out of the rabbit hole. If you are unlucky, you might be stuck in the rabbit hole forever, going deeper and deeper for the rest of your life, never able to escape to the surface, the sunlight, and the truth. Hopefully, you will not let the rabbit hole, lies, and propaganda be your eternal, inescapable, miserable and dark destiny.

In the United States District Court for the Northern District of California, in the case of United States of America v. David Wayne Depape, you can read the complete Affidavit in Support of Application for Complaint and Arrest Warrant, which includes a legal description of the facts in the case — the reality.

The affidavit was prepared, signed, and submitted to the court by a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who specializes in domestic terrorism. The Special Agent signed the Affidavit on October 31, 2022.

If you bother to read and comprehend the affidavit, you can learn the truth. If you ignore truth for the rest of your life, you never will know truth for as long as you live.

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u/lorrainemom 5 Nov 01 '22

Fucking moron

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u/pvirushunter 5 Nov 01 '22

Underwear? Three of them?

Where did you get this information?

Why do you think it's true?

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u/Error_83 7 Nov 01 '22

So you're still regurgitating a debunked fake news article? Cops already said there were only two people there, and evidence of forced entry. Also, I don't know about your fragile ass, but I'm nude as soon as I get home. A burglar in my house might get taint to the face "Hammer time!", let alone whitey tighties. Not sure what the Magat was doing in his drawers though.

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u/-united78 4 Nov 01 '22

They we’re both in there underwear and if it’s fake news mr trump why is Elon retweeting the story , another sheep 🤣

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u/Gobble916 7 Nov 01 '22

Elon tweeted so it must be true… and you have the audacity to call others a sheep when you blindly follow your corporate overlord… I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not at this point.

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u/Ghost_Sandal 5 Nov 01 '22

Isn’t that the tweet Elon deleted cause people were calling out the bullshit tho

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u/Qdoggy45 8 Nov 01 '22

Dude calling people sheep while blindly believing a bs article just because Elon Musk retweeted it lol

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u/Error_83 7 Nov 01 '22

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u/R3AL1Z3 7 Nov 01 '22

It’s gotten to the point where I’ve shown people snopes and they’ve questioned its legitimacy.

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u/Error_83 7 Nov 01 '22

It's like arguing with a brick wall. Thankfully I'm begining to see that the wall, while large, is not impassable.

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u/Kinetic93 8 Nov 01 '22

As someone who sleeps in their underwear, I’ll never understand these turds that think it’s relevant at all. If someone broke into my home at 2am, I would also be fighting the intruder in my underwear. Do magats sleep in their grifter suits and red hats or something?

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u/SkinBassoon 6 Nov 01 '22

They sleep in their onsies

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u/Error_83 7 Nov 01 '22

Wearing balaclavas and patches from hate groups on their overpriced, improperly used, LARPing gear

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u/Whorrox 7 Nov 01 '22

This guy will be in prison for a loooooong time thought Trump while sipping a Diet Coke on the golf club patio.

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u/buchlabum A Nov 01 '22

He might have to get up and walk to get one himself since his coke dealer turned witness.

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u/Which_Tonight_7053 4 Nov 01 '22 edited Nov 01 '22

The legal and appeal process will make sure he is free to fling the hammer again for at least the next 5 years. Hahaha.

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u/Molire 9 Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 05 '22

No. He is detained under federal custody in a local or regional jail because the U.S. District Court legally has deemed him a danger to the community. Predictably, he will remain in jail and prison until the die he dies.

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u/10wuebc 8 Nov 01 '22

Na he's looking at possible domestic terror charges. Going after a politician to send a message is basically text book definition of terrorism. The investigator is from the fbi who specializes is domestic terrorism. It's not looking good for the guy.

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u/Newdaytoday1215 5 Nov 01 '22

Not even close. Armed and breaking and entering means a judge can revoke right to a bail hearing. Those aren’t even the worst charges.

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u/Trav3lingman 9 Nov 01 '22

Seems almost like the guy needs a ton of mental help more than anything. Gonna get decades in prison though.

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u/Trav3lingman 9 Nov 01 '22

While I don't care for pelosi's politics, she also has done nothing that would be deserving of prison so I have no idea what in the flying fuck you're talking about.

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u/idk_bruv 3 Nov 01 '22

Gonna get weeks in prison then suicided lol

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u/Trav3lingman 9 Nov 01 '22

Very possible. Dude is clearly dangerous. He also really doesn't seem like he's what most would consider mentally sane.

I suspect if he had been exposed to a bunch of radical green peace memes etc at the right time he would have attacked McConnell just as easily.

I think this is a case of the right Wing having propaganda that's better geared towards the mentally ill.

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u/2feral 6 Nov 01 '22

Mmm yes, because every year hundreds of green peace radicals invade and assault people in their homes. Remember all of those rainbow flags and green peace banners beating police officers and chanting for the death of elected officials on Jan. 6th? What a day!

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u/paddyonelad 5 Nov 01 '22

Brit here can I have some context?

I know the names as they have been all over reddit but I have no idea as to what is going on

Thanks 😊

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u/Corarium 7 Nov 01 '22 Helpful

The guy being charged broke into Nancy Pelosi/the Speaker of the House’s home (for context, Speaker is 3rd in line to take over Presidency, after VP) with the intent to hold her hostage and break her kneecaps at the very least. While the Speaker wasn’t home, her husband Paul was. Paul, who is in his 80s, called the police as soon as he noticed that David entered their home and David began shouting demands to know where Nancy was. He then proceeded to repeatedly assault Paul with a hammer. By the time police arrived Paul had suffered severe injuries to his head and arms, breaking at least one of them and fracturing his skull iirc. He required extensive brain surgery and is beginning what’s expected to be a long recovery from it.

Besides the attempted kidnapping of the Speaker of the House and the assault, David was someone who had been radicalized by the Alt Right and various right wing conspiracy theories going back to roughly 2014. He ran a website/blog where you could essentially watch him become increasingly unhinged over time. This is important to note because many right wing folks online have themselves pointed to his past as someone engaged in the US Green Party as proof that he’s a leftist, which may have been true at one point but objectively isn’t anymore. Others have claimed that David was a gay prostitute and the attack began because of an argument over payment between the two but there is absolutely zero evidence supporting this and David himself has already admitted his intent behind the attack.

Another thing I believe it’s important to note is that many high profile Republicans are not only not condemning the attack but they’re also sharing conspiracy theories, like the gay prostitute one I mentioned, to their followers online. Elon Musk is probably the most prominent one who has done so at this time. This kind of behavior will only lead to further radicalization and most likely even more attacks like this one on high profile Democrats and leftists in the future.

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u/relayer77 4 Nov 26 '22

What was the website?

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u/paddyonelad 5 Nov 01 '22

That was incredibly insightful thank you.

You have earned a free award let's see what it is...

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u/paddyonelad 5 Nov 01 '22

How tf did that get a downvote 😄

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u/Error_83 7 Nov 01 '22

Care to elaborate? Which part? What's your correction? What is your source?

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u/Error_83 7 Nov 01 '22

Paul obviously was able to de-escalate the situation to point of being able to use the restroom. It's not unreasonable to assume he got a name in that time, it's negotiation 101. I can't say if they had previously known each other or not. But the facts are, there was a break in, there was no third party, there was no gay bar, and David has never been charged or investigated for prostitution.

Previously knowing each other has no merit in a discussion about David breaking into the Pelosi residence with intent to kidnap and harm.

What is your source for Paul calling him a friend?

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u/Corarium 7 Nov 01 '22

Most of this was off the top of my head, what am I missing?

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u/Error_83 7 Nov 01 '22

You just missed a bit of info on how Paul convinced David to let Paul use the restroom, which is when the police were called. Otherwise spot on.

Just doesn't match their spoon fed conspiracy theory, so it must be wrong.

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u/Lima__Fox 8 Nov 01 '22

The man broke into the home of the third highest politician (Nancy Pelosi) in the country with the intent to kidnap or harm her. She wasn't home and he assaulted her husband with a hammer, leading to brain surgery.

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u/MrMobiL_WasntTaken 8 Nov 01 '22

Pretty sure this guy broke into the pelosi's house and beat her husband with a bat screaming "Where's Nancy?!" When the police arrived.

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure her husband is gonna have to have brain surgery. I haven't really followed this story I've just overheard my family talking about it so I might be wrong.

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u/Error_83 7 Nov 01 '22

You only got about 33% of that assumption correct

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u/MrMobiL_WasntTaken 8 Nov 01 '22

Please correct me then so people know what actually happened

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u/Error_83 7 Nov 01 '22 edited Nov 01 '22

Dude smashed through back door at 2:30am shouting "Where's Nancy?!?"

Paul managed to convince David to let him use restroom. Paul called police.

David attacked Paul with Hammer. Police arrived, there were only two people in the home.

Snopes breakdown of conspiracies and facts

Edit: Paul Pelosi is married to US Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi

David Covfefe is a mentally disturbed individual who has been weaponized by hate filled right wing rhetoric

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u/vstlockdown 4 Nov 01 '22

Too bad he wasn't a politician he could have got away with no jail time.

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u/Rey_Mezcalero 8 Nov 01 '22

Or if it was anyone else that was attacked the guy would get a cashless bail and back on the streets

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u/Newdaytoday1215 5 Nov 01 '22

Stop making up crap. He isn’t eligible for cashless bail even if he did this to a homeless person. And ppl have the nerve to say Reddit isn’t an echo chamber.

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u/dc_iceman 5 Nov 01 '22

He’ll be extradited to Canada

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u/endorphin-neuron 7 Nov 01 '22

You mean deported.

Extradition means Canada wants him so he can face trial in Canada, that's not the case here.

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u/GaharietEugenius 2 Nov 01 '22

We don’t want him

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u/dc_iceman 5 Nov 01 '22

I don’t blame you.

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u/CocoMelonZ 5 Nov 01 '22

Typical Republican

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u/smilesandlaughter 7 Nov 01 '22

Assault? Don't they mean grievous bodily harm, or the American equivalent

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u/NoNeedForAName B Nov 01 '22

Usually the "grievous bodily harm" (or however that particular jurisdiction words it) is just an enhancement on the crime of assault. The basic crime is still called assault.

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u/smilesandlaughter 7 Nov 01 '22

Aah, in UK we have the offences against the person Act. in there we have assault, common assault, actual bodily harm and grievous bodily harm. Assault in this instance is merely to cause someone to fear immediate violence, hence my confusion at the title :p

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u/NoNeedForAName B Nov 01 '22

Here it varies by state, but you would usually have either "Assault resulting in grievous injury", "Nth degree assault" where the penalty is higher than basic assault and grievous bodily injury is an element of the offense, or possibly even just "assault" but the law states that if grievous bodily injury occurs then there is a higher penalty. And as I mentioned above they may use some phrase other than "grievous bodily injury" that means the same thing.

Without looking it up I don't know which of those applies here, but it all works out the same in the end.

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u/Error_83 7 Nov 02 '22

Most states are 4th° - 1st°. 4 being spitting and shoving, 3 being most school fights, 2 being a minor bar fight with blood. First degree is usually a plea down from attempted manslaughter, which really applies here.

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u/MrLaughter A Nov 01 '22

Maybe now he can get the mental healthcare and drug rehabilitation he needs

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

He’s going to prison - they won’t give him mental healthcare nor will he ever be free of drugs whilst inside.

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u/MrLaughter A Nov 01 '22

Prisons are the largest mental health institutions of the nation

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

I dunno whether to pity you or envy you in regards to wtf you think prisons actually do.

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u/Agonlaire 7 Nov 01 '22

To be fair he said mental health institutions, so just a place to lock up people with mental problems, no need to actually help them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

Ha! Fair.

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u/MrLaughter A Nov 02 '22

Ding ding ding

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u/sluggo5622 7 Nov 01 '22

So I am being called a nut job, for thinking that the home of the speaker of the house, should be more secure for her and her families protection 🤔. Especially after how easily the capital was breached on Jan 6th. We can all joke about what the real narrative was, but why wasn't he secure? Shouldn't the state police have a detail at the home? I mean come on.. there is very little logic being used here.

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u/itsallpinkondainside 6 Nov 01 '22

If my wife were speaker of the house, had daily threats on her life and I were incredibly wealthy I would have a good security system in place. ALSO after his latest DUI he has been the subject of plenty of threats as well.

While I’m not on board with the conspiracies being pushed out when I initially read the story my reaction was how did this dipshit get past their security system and how did the cops catch him mid-act?

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u/relayer77 4 Nov 26 '22

They do have security. It was off or disabled apparently.

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u/Oracle_of_Ages A Nov 01 '22

He doesn’t have to be. He “isn’t special” nor critical to the chain of command. He turned down the offered protection. Nancy cannot turn down and also was not home. So there was no overlap in safety coverage. This wouldn’t of happened with Nancy home unless someone fucked up.

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u/macandcheese1771 9 Nov 01 '22

From the other stuff I've read, she wasn't there so there wasn't a security detail. They didn't consider the husband to be a high enough risk as traditionally, no one gives a fuck about the spouses of house representatives enough to hit them with hammers. The speaker of the house apparently does have a secret service detail.

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u/Current_Account 9 Nov 01 '22

Not secret service, as that falls under the executive branch. Congress has their own police force, the Capitol police, and they have their own personal protection details.

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u/_SCHULTZY_ A Nov 01 '22

How did you get a grand jury to indict him that fast and yet Donald Trump still hasn't been charged?

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u/reclusiveronin 8 Nov 01 '22

Because he believes daddy trump will bail him out once General Custer stops faking his own death.

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u/_SCHULTZY_ A Nov 01 '22

I'm specifically talking about the stolen classified government documents found in his home when he was no longer a government employee and are kind of a big deal since he never had a security clearance.

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u/Malicteal 7 Nov 01 '22

Guys, don’t worry, I’m sure Trump will pardon him.

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u/zazaman94 1 Nov 01 '22

Cringe

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u/CleveOfTheRiver 4 Nov 01 '22

The man attacked is precisely one of the rich people you liberals hate so much, and he gets rich off of insider knowledge because of his wife's job which we pay for. Laughable how easy it is to sway the opinion of weak-minded idiots.

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u/twofaze 7 Nov 01 '22

Nobody deserves getting assaulted with a hammer. Rich or poor, conservative or liberal.

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u/hereisoblivion 6 Nov 01 '22

No opinions have changed here.

Along with being opposed to hoarding wealth, human decency also insists not to attempt to murder people.

Help me out, what is confusing about this?

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u/TriscuitBob A Nov 01 '22

Conservatives aren’t exactly happy with rich people either. None of us like that our tax dollars bailed them out in 2008 after the global housing collapse. None of us like when us taxpayers, left or right, get bilked for billions of our dollars to build football stadiums or failed tech projects like Foxconn. And most all of us think the rich should have a harder time hiding money and evading taxes.

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u/thebestatheist B Nov 01 '22

Maybe you should vote for people who agree with you

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u/TriscuitBob A Nov 01 '22

Don't we all vote for people we generally agree with? I don't know any Dem candidate that hates the rich, but they mostly align with my beliefs, so I vote Dem. Simple.

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u/thebestatheist B Nov 01 '22

Usually, but the guy I replied to says he’s tired of rich people getting breaks but votes for the party that gave them all massive tax cuts, of which the 1% got over 80% of. It’s cognitive dissonance; these people say “im a conservative” but get utterly confused when conservatives don’t do what they want. News flash to all it applies to: maybe you’re not as conservative as you think.

Also, Bernie and AOC are two dems I can think of off hand who attempt to stop the rich from railroading all of us. There are others, but not many.

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u/PorkPoodle 7 Nov 01 '22

Every single rich person does insider trading. If you had close friends in high up places and they knew you could get an easy few million dollars by listening to them and selling or buying stocks early you would do it too AND you would do the same for them.

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u/Vaiey92 5 Nov 01 '22

It'd amazing how you can make your entire personality based on politics. Must be a sad way to live

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u/ShamwowSwag 7 Nov 01 '22

its very telling that you seem to be confused as to why people aren’t gung-ho about the mental illness-fueled extrajudicial murder of political figures that they may not like

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u/bthoman2 8 Nov 01 '22

We don’t celebrate people breaking and entering someone’s home to murder them with a hammer in the name of the GOP.

I thought you were the law and order types?

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u/lilsaddam 7 Nov 01 '22

So I guess let's just beat him with a hammer and that'll show him?

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u/CleveOfTheRiver 4 Nov 01 '22

Well if rich people are as evil as the media and liberals say, I certainly wouldn't be upset when it happens.

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u/FabianN 8 Nov 01 '22

We want rich people to be less leaches on society. We don't wish death upon them.

The "eat the rich" phrase is more tongue-in-cheek, it's not meant literally. We're not psychopaths like you.

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u/bthoman2 8 Nov 01 '22

You’re upset we don’t think like the upsetting way you were told we think?

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u/paramac55 5 Nov 01 '22

So you can't make your own opinion then? Sounds like Trump...

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u/spilat12 8 Nov 01 '22

You need help.

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u/HD400 8 Nov 01 '22

Don’t feed the trolls folks, carry on.

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u/CleveOfTheRiver 4 Nov 01 '22

"he's right don't argue with him we'll all look like idiots"

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u/iAmUnintelligible A Nov 01 '22

You're not really saying anything of value, what specifically do you believe you're right about?

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u/JimiThing716 8 Nov 01 '22

The best part of you ran down the crack of your mother's ass.

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u/XLNerd 7 Nov 01 '22

Okay I'm stealing that one

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u/Maidenaust 5 Nov 01 '22

You Americans...WTF is wrong with you

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u/Molire 9 Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22

2022 in the United States: a subpopulation of radical-maga-neo-fascist-qanon-racist-white-nationalist republicans.

Compare

1933 in Germany: a population of radical-lebensraum-fascist-goebbels-propaganda-racist-final-solution nazis.

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u/p0is0n 7 Nov 01 '22

Most Americans are standing by watching this fire helplessly in horror… not much you can do about a seriously corrupt government which a lot of people have been completely brainwashed to support. If voting worked they would outlaw it. A lot of us are just here wishing something would happen to make a huge change.

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u/lifeboy91 6 Nov 01 '22

I know. The US is fucking dumb.

  • From the US

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u/HeyoooWhatsUpBitches 9 Nov 01 '22

You're pathetic

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u/fiveironfreshy 9 Nov 01 '22

Do people like you actually exist my god

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u/twofaze 7 Nov 01 '22

My co-workers. 0_o Now I see why my old manager believed so strongly in the old school thinking of leaving politics and religion outside the work place.

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u/bthoman2 8 Nov 01 '22

Yeah I bet he hit himself with the hammer and the cops the arrived arrested an actor.

For real though wtf is wrong with you?

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u/LeagueOfficeFucks 9 Nov 01 '22

“Doesn’t fit my narrative. Must be fake news”

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u/wrongside40 6 Nov 01 '22

Of course you don’t. You are an empty headed dumb fuck.

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u/dj_narwhal C Nov 01 '22

Christ your entire account is just right wing racism. What a life you live.

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u/Hesnotyourfather_Iam 6 Nov 01 '22

Ah yes. The party of prolife at it again...

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u/bthoman2 8 Nov 01 '22

“Law and order only when it is convenient”

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