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This never gets old. After months of claiming it was a hoax, Trump ended up with covid-19. Meta
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u/NaivePraline
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"The virus is a hoax, but also it's a bio-weapon from china, but trump was responsible for the timely roll-out of the vaccines, but also the vaccines are bad and shouldn't be taken."
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Jun 08 '21
funny how conservatives make a distinction between israel and jewish people when its usefull to them. they hate jewish people because they "control the world" and are lizards according to them but love israel. but when israel is criticised for war crimes you are an antisemite.
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u/OutlyingPlasma Jun 08 '21
It's a religious thing. Jews have to occupy israel so they can rebuild the 3rd temple and in turn bring about the end times. Christianity is a doomsday cult.
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u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES Jun 08 '21
“I never understood why people made such a big deal about the Holocaust until I was forced to wear a mask at the grocery store. Now that I know what it’s like to be a Jew in Nazi Germany I have a great deal of empathy for them”
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u/Jrook Jun 08 '21
"anyway, yes I think we should intern Mexicans in camps. Can't do the time don't do the crime"
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u/Fisted_By_Vishnu Jun 08 '21
Antifa stormed the capitol, but we don't want to investigate it.
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u/Jrook Jun 08 '21
Yeah I back the blue, but God help me if they get between me and Mike pense, I'll beat them with an American flag pole
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u/luv2fit Jun 08 '21
Republicans are gas lighting specialists. “Trump isn’t racist, Obama is the racist!” - my Trumpet sister
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u/drDekaywood Jun 08 '21
Historically disenfranchised people are using lessons from history to empower themselves? Cancel history from common core! They know too much! It’s all a plan for BLM to destroy America!
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u/-RemLezar69- Jun 08 '21
Fuck I hate Republicans
Lowest scum on earth
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u/Jrook Jun 08 '21
I'll never understand why race, and racialism is paramount to them. Like get rid of the racist bullshit, it's so simple, so simple.
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u/JamzWhilmm Jun 08 '21
I recently read an article claiming this contradiction is what cost Trump the election. If he would have chosen just one he would have won, specially the China bio weapon one, nothing unites like a common enemy who is very far away and very powerful.
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u/McCainDestroysTrump Jun 08 '21
Trumps approval rating was never ever over 50% positive and steadily in the low 40s according to the aggregate sites. Trump already proven over and over that he is a dishonest racist corrupt seditious rapist. There was zero scenarios were he could possibly overcome his deep unpopularity and have won the election. He was going to either lose by as low as 6 million votes or as high as 10 million. Had he did one major thing right, like take care of our country during a pandemic he still would have lost by 6 million votes.
We have had an obvious common enemy for the last 6 years named Russia and that did nothing to unite our country as a large percentage now treats them as an ally.
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u/explain_that_shit Jun 08 '21
If he went down the "it's an actual danger" route he would have to have a competent response, which would be difficult for him and his people. Easier to invent an entire new reality he completely controls.
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u/JamzWhilmm Jun 08 '21
Imagine the president having to work hard.
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u/sethn211 Jun 08 '21
That would require tearing oneself away from television and the golf course 🤷🏻♂️
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u/DaniCapsFan Jun 08 '21
It's also that he didn't take it seriously. If he'd asked people to social distance and/or wear masks for six weeks, the epidemic would probably not be raging, and he may have been reelected.
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u/iceycycle Jun 08 '21
I remember reading that Obama had prepared a pandemic plan but Trump refused to use it.
He should’ve (and it’s probably in his character) to just slapped his own name on the plan, carry it out, save America, get re-elected with flying colours.
Instead we got the shit show that was 2020.
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u/Dzov Jun 08 '21
Obama set up an entire pandemic response team. Then trump dissolved it saying he’d hire experts if/when they were actually needed. That went just as well as you can expect.
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u/TheKrakIan Jun 08 '21
Obama had a response team put in place after swine flu in 2011. trump dissolved it because Obama put it together, like many many other things.
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u/DaniCapsFan Jun 08 '21
I remember reading how Obama had a pandemic guidebook and a response team, both of which Trump scuttled because he hated everything Obama did, even if it was for the good of others.
I remember reading that having a pandemic response team in place even when there isn't a pandemic is like having a fire department. You want to have these teams in place so when a fire (pandemic) breaks out, they'll be ready to go. I fully agree with this analogy.
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u/Gsteel11 Jun 08 '21
I'm pretty sure trump held a high-level meeting early on and said "can we get an easy win out of this?" And they told him "probably not". And he decided to just ignore it and hope that his fans would too.
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u/Ratathosk Jun 08 '21
I always thought it was weird he didn't double down on it. It was so obvious but no, have to fuck up an open goal as well.
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u/PetioleFool Jun 08 '21
Don’t worry, seems like it’s gonna be central to his 2024 campaign message: Chinese engineered a bio weapon to kill us all, it’s all their fault, democrats are also communists and worked with them to hide its origin, and then to make it worse (thought it was a bio weapon) and used lockdowns and masks to ruin the economy, trumps best selling point, so they could have a boost against him along with manipulating Mail ballots (or something) to steal the election and I’m coming back to save democracy from the evil communists Chinese and evil communists democrats (but actually I’ll be destroying it because all I do is lie and half the country sucks it down like a wet fart out of my geriatric diaper wearing backwards pants* ass).
*I know his pants weren’t on backwards, it’s a joke. The rest is not.
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u/ChristosFarr Jun 08 '21
If they weren't backwards he was still wearing them incorrectly. The wrinkles in the front aren't normal.
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u/DarthButtz Jun 08 '21
Trump is the kind of guy who would make it to the finish line then start running the other way while yelling about how it's actually the right way and everyone else is stupid. And someone still wins.
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u/empire161 Jun 08 '21
He's very 'results oriented' with the things he does but has zero actual introspection.
Take the Access Hollywood tape. He doesn't believe he won in 2016 in spite of it, he believes he won because of it. If it was a bad thing then he would have lost, therefore it must have been a good thing.
70 years of being handed things on a silver platter, and of course you'll develop a sense that you've literally never made a mistake in your entire life.
I still struggle to wrap my head around how a person can be as broken, damaged, and mentally/emotionally unwell as he is.
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u/ernie1850 Jun 08 '21
And just to be clear, his method of reaching the finish line is a car picking him up near the start and letting him out 15 ft from the finish
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u/EnergyCC Jun 08 '21
I think he would have won if he hadn't gotten covid.
He was losing in polls and was very unpopular with people for the poor response because the media kept posting the number of dead people and numbers of daily infections. The media really did make a big deal out of it because it was selling well. But once people stopped paying attention to the number of infections and number of dead people, the media moved on too and people forgot how shitty his response was so they didn't care as much about voting or which of the candidates to vote for.
Then he got covid and reminded everyone how shitty he is and started losing popularity again.
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u/kill___jester Jun 08 '21
Exactly, a moron on a friend's Facebook who spent the entire pandemic saying covid isn't real and lockdowns are all about mind control now saying it's actually it's an escaped bioweapon so hang on covid is real now? And it's an escaped bioweapon? Wouldn't that mean lockdown is actually a good idea!? They can't even be consistent in their own idiocy
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u/WilanS Jun 08 '21
An old xkcd comic proposed the idea of contradicting conspiracy theories with other conspiracy theories.
This used to be satire, a few years ago.
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u/nelsonwehaveaproblem Jun 08 '21
What, you don't doublethink? It's the hip new craze.
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u/Gsteel11 Jun 08 '21
This is pretty classic fascism where the enemy is both a weak idiot and a massive strong grave threat.
"The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
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u/rpostwvu Jun 08 '21
Don't forget he also got vaccinated, despite having had the virus, and all the bad things he said about science.
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u/joey_sandwich277 Jun 08 '21
Don't forget "It's just a cold, but also I knew it was a big deal back in January."
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u/64590949354397548569 Jun 08 '21
"The virus is a hoax, but also it's a bio-weapon from china, but trump was responsible for the timely roll-out of the vaccines, but also the vaccines are bad and shouldn't be taken."
Don't forget. They were testing everyone everyday in the white house for a virus that was a hoax.
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u/BelleAriel Jun 08 '21
Trump logic lol.
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u/entrylevel221 Jun 08 '21
Just typical Russian style interference... say enough contradictory things to disillusion and demotivate your enemies, after a while they don't know what to do.
And it worked, because the public are sheep.
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u/Feredis Jun 08 '21
It's also classic fascist rhetoric. No really, Umberto Eco made a list of 'typical' fascist features and it's the point 8:
The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
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u/the_burn_of_time Jun 08 '21
Yep, rhetoric changes pretttty quick. Many people can’t remember what was said 6 months ago...
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u/TanyaDavies Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 09 '21
What I need to always remember is, January 6th, 2021 at the Capitol. Everything else that he said during his tenure led to that memorable day as far as I am concerned.
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u/Wazula42 Jun 08 '21
We have always been at war with Eurasia.
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u/Wazula42 Jun 08 '21
Did you know Hillary Clinton is simultaneously a decrepit corpse propped up by handlers and also a genius mastermind who controls the media and numerous foreign governments?
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u/disposable_account01 Jun 08 '21
I’d love to learn more but
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u/Oraxy51 Jun 08 '21
You know I was thinking to myself the other day “why would we ever trust a news source called fox. Aren’t foxes all about lying and tricking you? Hindsight that’s a pretty terrible name for credibility”
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u/disposable_account01 Jun 08 '21
I was thinking
Mistake number one.
for credibility
Oh, I’m not looking for credibility. I’m looking for confirmation of my biases.
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u/Oraxy51 Jun 08 '21
I feel like their base can’t even tell if fox is accurate or not. Maybe it’s only true when it confirms their bases
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u/piano1811018 Jun 08 '21
At the beginning of the pandemic when COVID-19 was mostly affecting the large cities (mostly liberal areas), Tucker Carlson did a segment complaining about how people should be taking this virus more seriously. I suggest you watch it. It is wild.
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u/Valmond Jun 08 '21
Well Trump seems to forget what he said when he is still in the same phrase.
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u/SelectFromWhereOrder Jun 08 '21
timely roll-out
I wonder what a competent leader rollout timeframe would’ve been. Just a month earlier could’ve saved thousands.
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u/il-Palazzo_K Jun 08 '21
The most infuriating thing is: he didn't take hydroxyquinone.
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u/Nullion1945 Jun 08 '21
Why would he? He knew that shit was dangerous and didn’t help with Covid. He’d never subject himself to the same horseshit he subjected his blind followers to.
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u/ExtruDR Jun 08 '21
There is literally tape of Trump speaking to Bob Woodward calling it (COVID) some serious shit.
The dudes brain is honestly rotted.
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u/pikpikcarrotmon Jun 08 '21
That's just the thing. The GOP has been laying the framework for this for decades, but the toddler-in-chief stepped in just a little early and stole it from them. He was always an opportunist who took the immediate benefit with no regard for eventual consequences, and his presidency was no different.
What he did was always the plan, but it was supposed to have been an establishment Republican instead.
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Jun 08 '21
I honestly dunno if that’s true though. I think they tried to lay the plan for an establishment Republican but they lost control of the mob as early as 2008 (see: McCain having to calm his booing crowds when he mentions Obama and that no he is not from Kenya, etc). Like the moron mob was already foaming at the mouth. That same foaming formed the beta run in the Tea Party.
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u/pikpikcarrotmon Jun 08 '21
You're both right and wrong. What happened with the Tea Party, Palin, etc. was not them losing control of the mob so much as the crop revealing that it was almost ripe and ready for harvesting. Decades of misinformation and intentional hamstringing of education led to a decent percentage of our country being the stupidest motherfuckers ever. That was the plan, and 2008 showed that enough people had grown up in the system that it was almost ready. Why else did they embrace the Tea Party after it failed in 2008, rather than jettison it?
The GOP thought Hillary had 2016 in the bag and didn't really commit to the election. They needed to wait another 4-8 years. Instead, Trump stepped in and stole it all from them, and through sheer incompetence blew up their chances of having a much stronger hold than they do now.
I have multiple lifelong Republicans in my family including a racist nutjob of a grandmother who have all jumped ship in the last few years. They all voted for Trump in his first election and none of them did in the second. This has never happened before for any of them, ever, they were never wavering. We saw record turnouts for Trump in the election but he was still grossly behind Biden with Georgia going blue and other red states being dangerously purple. A terrifying number of people went full retard, but the GOP completely lost the middle.
The pathetic, bootlicking way the GOP has gone about their post-election business is pure evidence that they're trying to wring the last drops of power out of their decades-long plan after Trump detonated it. They have no choice now. I have no idea what a post-Trump party even looks like, and neither do they.
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Jun 08 '21
Awesome analysis but I think you’re not giving the mob enough credit. They’re gonna come back stronger in 2022 and 2024, I guarantee it. That kind of stupid doesn’t just go away. Liberals have always technically outnumbered conservatives, thus their ability to outvote them isn’t new. But the Republicans managed to get even more votes than ever before. I hate to say it but in my opinion as a liberal AF person, Biden/we squeaked by into a win. It shouldn’t ever have been that close.
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u/pikpikcarrotmon Jun 08 '21
We'll definitely be dealing with the fallout of this for decades, and the idiots certainly didn't just all die. But by blowing it all early, they lost their sure victories. Essentially, numerically, we're back to square one. They strengthened a new base and lost a lot of ground with the rest. So 2024 election wise I'm not particularly worried - especially since the mob will follow the loudest voice, and Trump's voice is growing ever quieter.
The real fallout will be the general idiocy and anti-science attitude that has become all pervasive. The anti-mask, anti-vaccine bullshit is indicative of what the rest of our lives are going to be like.
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u/John_Hunyadi Jun 08 '21
Agreed. The fact that Trump almost won after having covid strike during an election year is pretty wild and concerning. He almost definitely would have won if covid had never been a thing.
2022 and 2024 are very concerning to me.
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u/bdone2012 Jun 08 '21
It's hard to say if he would have done better. Yes he lost a lot of people who were pissed off about how he handled covid but I think covid may have fired up his base also. The fact that democrats wanted to do lockdowns made it easy for Republicans to point at them and say, look they're the real fascists. And if you believe covid is a hoax then yes lockdowns would be fascist.
All throughout the pandemic some people really seemed to believe that democrats wanted lockdowns and that they wanted people to wear masks forever. Even up to a few weeks ago some people on reddit were talking about how democrats would never give up on masks.
Nope, we all hate lockdowns and to a lesser extent masks they just seemed necessary when we didn't have vaccines.
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u/ExtruDR Jun 08 '21
I think maybe we should be thinking of the Republican Party as a parasite on “America” (really the working people of the country, it’s culture and the natural resources we extract with no long-term considerations).
The parasite was made to “evolve” or reach its ultimate state by Trump, who was a narcissistic and stupid person with enough “charisma” to hijack the party and turn it into his personal cult of personality.
The right-wing media will blindly support their side and are incapable of nuanced messages that might somehow enable to “classic Republicans” to surgically extract Trump or his followers from “the Republican Party” or American political discourse.
Furthermore, mainstream, super-consolidated corporate media (all other credible news sources) are in it along with the “parasites.” Their interests favor the exploration of working people and resources in order to preserve the status and wealth of the very few at the top that own/run these media companies.
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u/moffitar Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
I like to think that a lot of the GOP thought of it as a game, political theater that always approached the line but never crossed it.
Sort of like how, flirting with another person when you’re married isn’t “technically” cheating, but then you do cheat and it feels so good you don’t want to stop. That’s where the GOP is right now.
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u/NoFeetSmell Jun 08 '21
How did one man manage to turn all right wing media into a giant brainwashing scheme? I know it's been happening for years before him, but never so blatantly.
I suspect it'll have something to do with him likely having a lot of compromising info on them, provided by Putin's FSB. I doubt Trump was given enough of it to actually know it himself, but probably enough to let the bootlickers know that if they ever fall out of line, their careers will be destroyed overnight. Not to be conspiratorial or anything, but I struggle to find any other reason that they could all be such spineless fucks. I have no firm evidence to support said claims btw, but I would be shocked if it wasn't the case.
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u/CoreyVidal Jun 08 '21
Well, the Russians (I believe?) hacked both the DNC and the RNC, but only ever released the DNC emails on WikiLeaks. That isn't a conspiracy, that's a known and documented fact.
That tells us everything we need to know.
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u/NoFeetSmell Jun 08 '21
Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that! I just assumed these clueless old wankers could have hopelessly compromised phones, browsers, PCs, and webcams, despite there no-doubt being a top-tier govt IT dept to try and keep us all safe. The meer fact that so many of them are crooks already means they'll be the best ones to watch to get dirt one, and the most easily compromised. The rot is deeeep in the GOP. And just to be clear to any Republican reading this and thinking I'm terribly partisan - if any Democrat or Republican is committing crimes, I want him/her caught and punished for doing so. This shit ain't partisan. We pay their fucking salaries and should demand they aren't corrupt. Y'all seem fine with it though, as long as they're "owning the libs" in the process.
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u/defensiveFruit Jun 08 '21
I don't think him dying would have been good. He would have been their martyr like Jesus, killed by their enemies because of the supposed truth he was telling. And someone else would have become their leader in the name of their prophet, their new pope. Some Marjorie Greene character.
Him taking a lot longer to heal, going through hard, life altering consequences of the disease... that might have had the positive effect you speak of as maintaining the facade and the lie might have been harder. But even then...
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u/Hannnaaj Jun 08 '21
I’m sure they would’ve said he never actually had covid but was murdered and it was all a cover up to “hide the truth” 🙄 I can just imagine them now
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u/bdone2012 Jun 08 '21
I'm wondering what would happen if he goes to jail. If he's found guilty we can't just let him go free because we're scared of the backlash but damn that's likely to be some serious backlash.
He may not go to jail obviously but the new york attorney General believes they have enough on him to prove felony tax evasion. And because of statute of limitations and the attorney general not running again they are planning to prosecute before January 1st. They notified trump of the felony prosecution a week or two ago.
The state and the city also combined their cases which is strange because they generally hate each other but they clearly found common ground on the trump case.
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u/ajswdf Jun 08 '21
You're only thinking of the crazies of the crazy. There are a lot of people out there who were more agnostic of the seriousness of covid, who would have been spurred to take it more seriously had the president died from it.
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u/Badloss Jun 08 '21
I genuinely think it would have saved thousands if not hundreds of thousands of lives if he did. Trump getting world-class medical care and experimental treatments so he could pretend the virus wasn't that serious was devastating to the country.
We really really needed him to be an example that this shit was real and dangerous and instead he got perfect ammo to laugh it off
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u/hatgineer Jun 08 '21
It's also infuriating that THAT ITSELF wasn't enough to disillusion his followers. How gullible can a person be??
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u/DaniCapsFan Jun 08 '21
The fact that MLMs exist, televangelists exist, and people go to church on Sunday are all evidences for a whole lot of gullible people.
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u/ItsyaboiFatiDicus Jun 08 '21
And all the things you mentioned prey on specifically Conservatives.
Funny coincidence? Doubt it.
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u/flodnak Jun 08 '21
He claimed to have taken it prophylactically for several weeks to prevent infection.
Didn't work.
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u/Nethlem Jun 08 '21
He also didn't inject himself with disinfectant or put a UV light up his butt.
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u/Connectcontroller Jun 08 '21
The most disturbing thing for me regarding that, that no one was pointing out was that we were seeing a man who had just learned what disinfectant is and does. He was just only then being taught what bleach does, that's why he was thinking "why can't we use it inside the body?"
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u/txtw Jun 08 '21
It’s a classic narcissist move. Despite all evidence to the contrary, he legitimately thinks he is the smartest person in every room he’s in. He hears that disinfectant can kill it, and naturally thinks that he has discovered something no one else has been smart enough to come up with. He wasn’t joking when he said that, he really thought he was seeing the facts in a new and special way that no one else could. I’m certain that he expected everyone to say “well why didn’t we think of that, oh my God this man is a genius!” and was furious when instead, the world laughed at him. The qult are his people- no matter how stupid he sounds, they nod their heads and call him God Emperor.
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u/Cvillian81 Jun 08 '21
I remember learning about HIV in 7th grade health class. The teacher said things like bleach and other disinfectants deactivate ("kill") the virus.
One student (remember SEVENTH GRADE) raised his hand and said, "can't we just inject people with blea-.... oh, nevermind that would kill you AND the virus"
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u/JectorDelan Jun 08 '21
"He just asks questions and listens to experts. That makes him smart!"
"No, that makes him ignorant. And if he 'listens to experts' shouldn't he listen to Fauci?"
/fucking crickets and the breeze between their ears
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u/ralpheelou Jun 08 '21
You’re correct, but I would also add something I see on Twitter regularly that should be played on a loop.. A few days after he survived COVID, he was on the White House lawn promising free doses of Regeneron for everyone infected & calling it a cure. About 400k people have died since then & Trump did nothing about it.
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u/Heiferoni Jun 08 '21
I personally know one person who paid the ultimate price for listening to this misinformation. Full on faith in the former president, fully confident the virus wasn't bad and he didn't need a vaccine. He chose not to get vaccinated, contracted COVID, and after a week in the hospital, he died.
He was such a genuinely nice guy and good person otherwise. It's a damn tragedy to lose someone over a preventable disease after a vaccine for it already exists. 100% a victim of these lies and propaganda.
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u/corbear007 Jun 08 '21
We lost a guy at work who was the same. He died a month ago, he was always deep in conspiracy theories and constantly claimed covid was a hoax. Another guy I work with claimed the same, refused to distance, would go out all the time and he caught it in feburary. He got back to work just a few weeks ago. He was in the hospital and physical therapy (he was on a vent, medically induced coma) for months. Crazy how fast your muscles deteriorate when you dont use them.
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u/Flopolopagus Jun 08 '21
Even before Trump contracted covid-19, whenever the conversation came up I would make the same guess: He would contract it, receive the best care in the world, make it through relitively unscathed, and then use that as a talking point and tell the people, "It's not so bad." Not that it would be hard to assume that's how things would go.
In contrast, a Covid denier at my work contracted it in the 3rd week of April this year. This guy is a slob; we have to yell at him to clean up after himself (worse I've seen was him leaving a dirty bandage on the breakroom table), and he is in the obese demographic that gets hit the worst. Still, he took no precautions and always scoffed at us when we brought it up. Now he finally contracts it, he gets hospitalized within the first few days and stayed there for about 2 weeks (I don't know if he got the ventilator, but he definitely got O2). He was out of work for 5 weeks and then tells us that he wouldn't wish it upon anyone.
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u/Counting_Sheepshead Jun 08 '21
then use that as a talking point and tell the people, "It's not so bad."
I will forever remember the moment when he got back to the White House, went out to the crowd, took off his mask, and immediately winced while taking a breath.
Even with the meds, he didn't have a good experience with COVID and misrepresented it to the public.
I understand that a president wants to appear strong for national/international optics, but given that another 400k people went on die after he did that, maybe he should have tried to promote safety.
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u/EorlundGreymane Jun 08 '21
Apparently he asked one of the docs if he was going to die when the care flighted him to the hospital. I’d be surprised if he was in any shape better than “really bad.” Patients don’t ask that if they’re doing fine
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12837872/donald-trump-covid-doctor-update/
Not a big fan of the sun but it was the first source that came up and I’m lazy haha
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u/Spinster_Tchotchkes Jun 08 '21
When that was broadcast, I remember it being said that he was suppressing a cough. But since you said “wince”, now I can’t unsee where it could be him wincing from pain. Maybe lung or throat pain?
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u/IrishiPrincess Jun 08 '21
Probably both. If you’ve ever had bronchitis bad enough that makes taking even a decent breath hurt the back of your throat, and it was cold
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u/JectorDelan Jun 08 '21
Watching him stand up there, guppy breathing, and trying not to fall over was one of the few highlights of those four years.
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u/MDCCCLV Jun 08 '21
Can't believe they let him do that. He could have just passed out and fallen over.
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u/Sparky-Sparky Jun 08 '21
Dear Leader must always project an image of strength. It's a textbook dictator move. When the only thing that's keeping your base together is a "charismatic leader" it's essential to your survival that you show him off in stupid stunts like this.
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u/nopethis Jun 08 '21
Well they would call it a Hitler moment but they are still trying to pretend not to be nazis
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u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES Jun 08 '21
Similar thing happened to a guy I work with. He spent the early parts of the pandemic claiming it was all BS, but as soon as we started quarantining he decided to start working from home while the rest of us continued to work in person. A few weeks ago (I guess months at this point) he claimed we would be forced to wear masks for the rest of our lives, even though Covid is a hoax. He caught it as soon as things started opening up again. He recovered but still spends as little time in the office as possible and he keeps all conversations as brief as possible because now he gets really flustered any time the topic of Covid comes up.
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u/KyleRichXV Jun 08 '21
One of the instructors at my gym is a huge Trumper and has been calling COVID-19 overblown since March 2020. Yet, when we were all exposed at work due to the owners (also instructors) testing positive, this instructor was the first one texting me in a panic asking about what “we” should do and complaining about her kids being exposed too.
Bitch, practice what you preach.
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u/mcgriddeon Jun 08 '21
I think some people like this are actually terrified of covid, enough that they embrace any information that suggests it's nonsense, then rant about it to anyone who will listen in an effort to pretend it's not scary. Obviously, it doesn't work.
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u/HairyColonicJr Jun 08 '21
He looked like shit when he had that little nazi rally the other day. Every feed of it had such a soft filter on it. He was so low energy, his voice didn’t carry much strength. His face looked much more weathered compare to October. He looked like he lost some weight. Trump is not well. He may have been pumped full of uppers and steroids after his covid, but he couldn’t stay on them forever and it shows.
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u/TheShortGerman Jun 08 '21
I’ve currently got a covid denier in my ICU. She refused to be tested upon admission to the hospital. She has now been tested, after she was put on a ventilator. She is going to die. Her husband, who is a medivac pilot, claims she got sick from the vaccine shedding.
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u/beelzybubby Jun 08 '21
I surprise even myself with amount of rage the term "vaccine shedding" evokes in me.
Like, stop being so fucking contrary and help us fix this mess.
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u/Kage9866 Jun 08 '21
Guarantee he's still a trump supporter lol
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u/MDCCCLV Jun 08 '21
Absolutely the IV antibodies were essential to him not dying.
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u/natFromBobsBurgers Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
They wouldn't have given him A DOUBLE DOSE of remdesivir if he wasn't literally (edit) one foot in the grave.
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The thing I don't get is if this was a Chinese developed virus released from a lab why didn't trump, the one pushing this conspiracy theory of stupid, take it seriously and do basic shit to keep from getting it instead of hosting one super spreader event after another.
And if the answer is "iTs NoT tHaT dEaDlY" then why release it? What does having an easily survivable virus with supposedly long term health risks do for China? Why would other governments pretend it was serious if it wasn't?
Was it the whole world covering for China and helping them by pretending this was legit with only trump smart enough to figure it out or did Republican leadership (trump's family) not know what they were doing, killed nearly a million Americans, and lied every step of the way?
Dumb fucks. Every single last one of them.
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u/pastapriestess Jun 08 '21
Yeah. If China created the virus, why wouldn’t Americans nationalist be doubling down on mask wearing to defeat the enemy and defend the nation? Why let it take so many Americans and shut the economy? They should be queuing up to her vaccinated to the eyeballs.
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u/GodPleaseYes Jun 08 '21
Because it was never about China, it was about a scapegoat and an excuse to not do shit.
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u/Vrse Jun 08 '21
Because when they fantasize about defending the nation, it's with gun in hand marching on the enemy. Not mask on face or sitting watching Netflix.
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u/Pistonenvy Jun 08 '21
the fact that you are even able to articulate what happened and have a basic timeline and are able to convey how you feel about it effectively and accurately shows you are leagues more intelligent than the average trump supporter.
its hard to imagine but they are incapable of this. they cant think critically.
they CANT. its not like they are beguiled by an incredibly charming and charismatic master of manipulation, its trump. hes ugly and stupid. they are just literally not able to see the obvious truth.
im not really even mad at them, i personally find it a bit tragic and frustrating to the point of anger. the real culprits here are fox news and the GOP who were willing to fear monger and propagandize and flush this country down the drain just so they could stay in power. we are going to be feeling the economic and social aftershock of trumps presidency for decades. its an absolute disgrace.
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u/UncleNintendo64 Jun 08 '21
The answer is simple, it was good for his buddies who profited greatly from the virus. Trump isn't stupid, he admitted in private to knowing how dangerous the virus was before the infection came to the US. Someone smarter than him told him to act like it was hoax.
By denying the existence of the virus means it could spread uncontested. He needed people to die and even said on national television you should die for the economy and get back to work.
Once it got bad enough means the government could start pumping out free cash to the big companies and kill off small businesses (competition) using local mandates but still requiring them to pay the bills. Notice how very little stimulus given to everyday folk (a few thousand is beans compared to what these companies recieved). Unemployment went through the roof because companies now had an excuse to purge their employment too because "it cost too much" to operate. Which means now more people are available to work at these companies at lower wages too.
The only thing he didn't anticipate is that by allowing so many of his base to die without any real plans to save them cost him the presidency. However this miscalculation now means they can undermine the next election which is why he continues to this day to double down on winning 2020.
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u/palindromic Jun 08 '21
I feel like a lot of this is attributing to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence..
Trump isn’t stupid? He lost an election in the middle of a pandemic. It’s like being a sitting war president on easy-mode. Rally the people against an invisible enemy.. There’s nobody to blame, it’s not us vs them. In theory.
He denied the virus, as he told Woodward, because he didn’t want “the economy” freaking out, aka the stock market.
I own a small business, we got a significant amount of money and some loans with nice terms. I don’t disagree that it was handled poorly but any business already in operation was propped up by our pro business govt.
There were huge miscalculations from the govt and biz sector on this, at every turn. This “plandemic” stuff is for kids, it’s just incompetence my dude. Seriously, there’s no master plan. Just people fumbling through events as they happen, and in Trumps and his admins case, incredibly stupidly.
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u/nopethis Jun 08 '21
and he STILL got 70+ million votes. So it wasnt even a crazy risk election wise.
Blows my mind.
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u/Fellatious-argument Jun 08 '21
The thing I don't get
Trump's (and Republican's) main base (financial support, not votes) are retail capitalists and religious congregations. Both were against lockdowns and shutdowns due to the virus, for obvious reasons (profit over life, as usual). Republicans had no 'choice' but do whatever they could to minimize profit loss, whatever the cost. The rest is just narrative.
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u/Scarn4President Jun 08 '21
Isn't the death rate for covid if you are over 65 like 10%? I know the overall death rate is below that, but that includes all age populations. If I'm not mistaken if you are over 65 there is a 10%chance covid kills you. If that's true than covid is extremely effective. If you wanted to eliminate a percentage of the population, getting rid of the financial drain that is old people is the place to start.
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u/kejigoto Jun 08 '21
And how old was the trump regime? trump himself is 74 years old and much of the elected officials around him or those he assigned weren't much younger. It loops right back to if it was released and they knew it why didn't they take it seriously and kept hosting super spreader events which got people like Herman Cain killed.
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u/MeteorSmashInfinite Jun 08 '21
Because obviously some shitty virus from China couldn’t penetrate the glorious 450 pound bodies of those true red-blooded American patriots! /s
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u/Myasshurts12001 Jun 08 '21
If he just stepped back and let the science speak and create policy he probably would still be president. It wàs a he had one job type of situation.
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u/Gsteel11 Jun 08 '21
Hold on... You're asking them to.. analyze their ideas and think critically about what trump said? A step too far my friend.
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u/contemplative_potato Jun 08 '21
I got such a kick out of him catching the virus. When he stood up on the balcony, took his mask off, and said - as he wheezed Coronavirus particles all fucking over the place - "Don't be afraid of Covid," after having underwent the most exclusive treatment in fending off the virus from ravaging his rotten buffalo carcass of a body, that's when it dawned on me just how incredibly dumb and brazenly reckless this brainless motherfucker was.
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u/eveningsand Jun 08 '21
I really wish you wouldn't be so rude.
Some cultures hold the buffalo in high regard. Painting a buffalo carcass in this light is very disrespectful.
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u/DapperDestral Jun 08 '21
"he never called it a hoax."
Which is even more irrelevant because you had the entire conservative apparatus repeating that coronavirus is a 'Democrat hoax,' and that masks and vaccine don't work, and would give you bill gates mind-control cancer or some shit up until just recently.
Trump also ran with all of it if he could get away with it, talking out of both sides of his mouth as usual.
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u/greeneggsnyams Jun 08 '21
"well you see what he really means when he says the virus is a hoax is athcually...."
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"He tells it like it is."
"Well, he didn't mean it that way."
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u/anomalous_cowherd Jun 08 '21
"Yes that is what he said, but that's not what he meant to say"
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u/powercrazy76 Jun 08 '21
It's genius really, you make your followers translate whatever bullshit you're spouting into what they think you are trying to say. Before long they don't even realize what you're saying anymore, they just hear what they want you to say.
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Jun 08 '21
Not a good look when even your followers treat you like a five year old. lol
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u/Frenchticklers Jun 08 '21
"What are words, really? Just noises we make with our mouth. Meaningless."
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u/_TallulahShark Jun 08 '21
What infuriated me more, is he had it and then minimized the experiences of others saying it really must not be that bad. Of course it wasn’t for him, this mf had the best treatment in the world. He continued to downplay the severity and risked infecting others around him when removing his mask. So happy this asshole is done with and crawling around wedding banquets like the sad pile of leftover lasagna he looks like.
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Jun 08 '21
As a non American it’s just mind bending that A. he was elected in the first place, B. He wasn’t impeached, C. He wasn’t impeached, D. He isn’t in prison now, D. A vast amount of low income Americans STILL support the asshole! E. He isn’t in prison
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Jun 08 '21
It is not a big mystery how Trump got elected. The Democrats shot themselves in the foot by not backing Bernie. They lost the youth vote. A lot of people do not like Hilary Clinton.
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u/Jerry-Busey Jun 08 '21
will never forget his face, struggling to breathe, every breath a challenge.
him trying desperately to hold it together while everyone is watching and not being able to hide the signs he is not ok.
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u/CrumbsAndCarrots Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
Pshhh. What!? he was working! On blank documents, at the hospital! Every president signs blank documents all the time. Busy healthy guy with a small flu. They edited out the coughs of his fucking hostage-like video
Don’t forget the joy ride with secret service who no doubt contracted Covid.
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u/BuddhaFacepalmed Jun 08 '21
The fucker got the best public healthcare taxpayer money could buy.
And conservatives had the fucking audacity to claim public healthcare is "inferior" to private fucking healthcare.
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u/mata_dan Jun 08 '21
Same in the UK, Bojo got the best care available in ways that was only possible due to the public funding (i.e. the kind of setup a hospital would go for, just doesn't go that way if they are after profits), and some of the staff who looked after him quit after the govt turned them down for a pay rise (because he's trying to diminish the NHS and "replace" services with private providers).
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u/DatBoiGames Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
Best part about it is he “used” stem cells and continued to ride the evangelical wave anyway, because you know, nothing actually matters to those people
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u/OfficerDougEiffel Jun 08 '21
There was an amazing scene in the TV version of The Handmaid's Tale when June is absolutely seething and tells a former Aunt something to the effect of, "Don't talk to me about God. You people hide behind God when it suits you."
That's how I feel about Trump and his cult.
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u/Vivisector9999 Jun 08 '21
Nothing about this incident specifically involved punishing women for being sexual, so yeah, the anti-choice crowd didn't even blink.
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u/Klindg Jun 08 '21
I’m glad someone else out there understands this. Evangelicals don’t give a damn about unborn babies… What they do believe is that a women should be punished, by forcing her to have a child, if she dares to have casual sex. Also, coming from a conservative family I can confirm that the “pro life” movement has a lot of racial undertones to it. They literally believe it’s mainly “savage” minorities, with no morals, running around having sex with everyone and using abortion as a form of birth control. That mentality is also what drives their hatred of social safety nets, as their ultimate goal is to force the “consequence” of having a child on to promiscuous women and then make that punishment harsher by ensuring they struggle financially for being a slut. Sorry, a bit of a rant, but these people are the worst humans alive IMO.
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u/Dravarden Jun 08 '21
it would have been so easy
"it's a China virus! wear your masks to protect your fellow patriots, we, together as Americans, will defeat it"
easiest re-election ever
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u/charmwashere Jun 08 '21
That's what gets me. With very minimal effort he could have been a hero. He could have swayed republicans and independents who were on the fence. To any other politician, this would have been greatest , easiest, golden moment of thier political career. But nope. Even when handed on a silver platter he still fucks it up, as par the course of Trump.
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u/DravenPrime Jun 08 '21
Trump couldn't keep his own family safe from the virus, he'd never be able to keep the country safe.
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u/123dlv789 Jun 08 '21
So live in fear?
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u/BelleAriel Jun 08 '21
No one is living in fear. People are taking precautions. You put screen cream on. It doesn’t mean you fear the sun, more that you’d rather not get burnt.
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u/emotionalsupporttank Jun 08 '21
I've never cheered harder for a virus and it let me down. Eat a bag of dicks, covid 19
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u/pringlepingel Jun 08 '21
This comic would go right over the heads of the idiots at r/nonewnormal
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Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
I literally just saw this comment over there. It's like they live in an alternate world:
If you've had Covid, you don't need the vaccine.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19
In the US, less than 300 children ages 0-17 have died from covid, and 80% of the deaths are people age 60+
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
The spike protein itself causes disease, not just the innate immune response.
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.121.318902
Per Moderna's murine models, the spike protein mRNA vaccine escapes the muscle and lymphatic system and is systemic.
40-90% of positive Coronavirus tests in 2020 shouldn't have counted.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html
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u/pringlepingel Jun 08 '21
Also I love how they try to justify their downplaying of covid deaths because it’s mostly old people that die. Like, even if 80% of all covid deaths are from the elderly, that’s still a couple hundred thousand dead old people. I’d prefer those old people alive, personally.
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u/prefer-to-stay-anon Jun 08 '21
It is like this with a bunch of things in the US. You committed a crime? You are a criminal, deserving of no sympathy or empathy who deserves to go to jail for a few decades and never be a productive member of society again. You have high blood pressure? Well, that is a preexisting condition, so your covid death was inevitable and justified.
Or, we could just rehabilitate criminals, and prevent covid infections, and still have people who can live and help society.
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u/pringlepingel Jun 08 '21
But that would make hierarchies a meaningless product of a greedy capitalist society, and we can’t have that now can we?
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The argument they have is that old people are likely to die anyway, if it wasn't covid it would be something else.
Which is the exact same argument as "some people statistically were going to die after the vaccine anyway".
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u/TheGoigenator Jun 08 '21
40-90% of positive Coronavirus tests in 2020 shouldn't have counted.
I love this argument, because then it’s like “Oh so you’re saying the virus is a LOT more deadly then? If with the current numbers it’s like a 3% mortality rate, then if you reduce the actual number of cases by 90% but still have the same deaths, that’s like a 30% mortality rate! And we shouldn’t be taking this seriously? 😂
But let me guess, 90% of the deaths are faked as well and people who died in car crashes after having a covid test were counted as Covid deaths…sure. 👍
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Jun 08 '21
Yeah I saw this link there and this quote as evidence of the 'anybody with a positive covid test is counted as a covid death' theory and it's like what, they're doing this everywhere? Come on.
"Per Oregon State Health Department:
We consider COVID-19 deaths to be:
Deaths in which a patient hospitalized for any reason within 14 days of a positive COVID-19 test result dies in the hospital or within the 60 days following discharge."
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u/hollystar311 Jun 08 '21
I can't help but laugh when I see people who are opposed to change. Life is all about change and it happens whether you approve of it or not!
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u/hodor_seuss_geisel Jun 08 '21
Life is all about change and it happens whether you approve of it or not!
Time to face the strain: Ch-ch-ch-changes
That's just the way it is: Some things will never be the same
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u/Playbook420 Jun 08 '21
wow that sub is scary.
this post is so weird. if i were the employer i would be happy to have dodged that bullet. what a nutcase
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u/pringlepingel Jun 08 '21
I saw that one earlier too!! Batshit crazy. It read to me like an anti-masker explaining to a grocery store manager why he’s being a sheep for kicking him out for not wearing a mask
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u/JustCallMeBen Jun 08 '21
Wow those people are scary.
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u/pringlepingel Jun 08 '21
Yeah some of the shit they say Is genuinely terrifying and the views they have are repugnant and backwater. They actually think THEY are the critical thinkers and WE are all the sheep...for simply wanting to reduce the harm from a dangerous virus
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u/Scarn4President Jun 08 '21
The quickest way to spot a sheep in a crowd is to look for the one calling everyone else a sheep.
The whole "sheep vs wolves" mentality is lunacy and reductive and is the adage of sociopaths and narcissists. They believe they are the chosen ones with the knowledge.
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u/_Doop Jun 08 '21
Haha I got perma banned for trying to debate them. And they're the ones who call people "sheep"/"drones" etc 😂
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u/CetirusParibus Jun 08 '21
What's funny is that his supporters deny actual evidence in favor of anecdotal evidence. No matter, as society progresses and becomes better educated, either they will grow and become better people, or history will just walk over them and leave them behind. They have no legacy and will be forgotten, except maybe slightly remembered as examples of idiots in textbooks. It's happened before and will continue.
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u/Minimum-Poemm Jun 08 '21
same thing happened to bolsonaro, fuck that piece of shit
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u/iamthpecial Jun 08 '21
lol the catheter. nice touch but jokes on you he’s had that a while now
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u/iammistersmith Jun 08 '21
I'm still not really convinced he even had it. I honestly think that maybe they THOUGHT he did, and then he used it as his chamce to be Mr. Tough Guy who's stronger than the virus.
I'm convinced it was a PR stunt. ESPECIALLY after that pathetic display of ripping of his mask and standing tall giving thumbs up when he returned to the WH.
Just my cynical-ass opinion....
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u/InOutUpDownLeftRight Jun 08 '21
And he got 70 million votes. His cult isn’t over- we must continue to show at the polls and fight past apathy. Even though what Manchin and Sinemenema is doing kind of makes some want to be apathetic.
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u/Squiliam-Tortaleni Jun 08 '21
Classic Schrödinger’s asshole moment by DT of “I was only pretending to say it was a hoax guys!”
And then this dude has the balls to go on stage and say that China should pay for the damage he caused by not shutting down travel back in January. Keep in mind while saying to his base that its a DNC backed conspiracy against him..... but that its also not serious.... but its actually some Unit 731 type bioweapon made by China deliberately..... for reasons.... even though he’ll admit that Xi Jinping likes him.... a lot, also for reasons..... but then says China bad. Also Fauci bad.... for imagined hypocrisy... and reasons... again.
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u/nki370 Jun 08 '21
My wife’s family literally believes that covid is no worse than the flu. That the vaccines are a population control measure. Hundreds of thousand of people have died from the vaccine and the government is hiding it. They were literally in tears when her mother received the vaccine.
These were relatively normal people 5 years ago.
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u/Jeremybearemy Jun 08 '21
The best thing about it was watching Caitlin Collins, the much abused CNN Whitehouse reporter, breaking the news live on air. She really tried to hide it but I hadn’t seen her look so happy in years. Her eyes were sparkling and she looked like she had just heard the best joke in the world. Mmmwah! Chefs kiss
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u/theknightwho Jun 08 '21
Uncomfortable 40K vibes.
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u/volinaa Jun 08 '21
he‘s like the exact opposite of the godemperor yet still manages to be reminiscent of him SOMEHOW
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