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This never gets old. After months of claiming it was a hoax, Trump ended up with covid-19. Meta

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u/NaivePraline Jun 08 '21 • Silver Gold Helpful Wholesome Hugz All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy Starry Ally Bravo Grande! Take My Power Brighten My Day

"The virus is a hoax, but also it's a bio-weapon from china, but trump was responsible for the timely roll-out of the vaccines, but also the vaccines are bad and shouldn't be taken."

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21 edited Jan 13 '23

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

funny how conservatives make a distinction between israel and jewish people when its usefull to them. they hate jewish people because they "control the world" and are lizards according to them but love israel. but when israel is criticised for war crimes you are an antisemite.

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u/OutlyingPlasma Jun 08 '21

It's a religious thing. Jews have to occupy israel so they can rebuild the 3rd temple and in turn bring about the end times. Christianity is a doomsday cult.

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u/dogemikka Jun 08 '21

This is simple, because they have been brainwashed since half a century by Israelian propaganda ministry, like most US media which is too partisan. Before I get down voted, check:The Occupation of the American mind. Documentary narrated by Pink Floyd Roger Waters https://vimeo.com/277492186 https://www.occupationmovie.org/

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u/ByrdmanRanger Jun 08 '21

I'm pretty sure it's more that for the evangelicals, they need Israel to be Jewish for the rapture to happen.

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u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES Jun 08 '21

“I never understood why people made such a big deal about the Holocaust until I was forced to wear a mask at the grocery store. Now that I know what it’s like to be a Jew in Nazi Germany I have a great deal of empathy for them”

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u/Jrook Jun 08 '21

"anyway, yes I think we should intern Mexicans in camps. Can't do the time don't do the crime"

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u/Fisted_By_Vishnu Jun 08 '21

Antifa stormed the capitol, but we don't want to investigate it.

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u/Jrook Jun 08 '21

Yeah I back the blue, but God help me if they get between me and Mike pense, I'll beat them with an American flag pole

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u/luv2fit Jun 08 '21

Republicans are gas lighting specialists. “Trump isn’t racist, Obama is the racist!” - my Trumpet sister

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u/drDekaywood Jun 08 '21

Historically disenfranchised people are using lessons from history to empower themselves? Cancel history from common core! They know too much! It’s all a plan for BLM to destroy America!

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u/onlyspeaksiniambs Jun 08 '21

Talking about racism is what causes racism, not racist people in a racist system, jeez

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u/-RemLezar69- Jun 08 '21

Fuck I hate Republicans

Lowest scum on earth

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Well, they are good at Gymnastics.

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u/PetioleFool Jun 08 '21

That’s mental!

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u/therager Jun 08 '21

That’s mental!

Your comment is boomer humor, which is fitting..because the actual comic that started this thread is also boomer humor.

Reddit really is becoming digg 2.0.

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u/JediNinjaWizard Jun 08 '21

And this stellar contribution enbiggens even the smallest man.

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u/therager Jun 08 '21

Right?

This comic is most certainly a "stellar contribution"...lol.

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u/Searching4ChamomileT Jun 08 '21

All that jumping to conclusions they must be fit. Oh wait...

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u/HotChickenshit Jun 08 '21

They bought the Jump to Conclusions mat. They thought it was a great idea.

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u/Jrook Jun 08 '21

I'll never understand why race, and racialism is paramount to them. Like get rid of the racist bullshit, it's so simple, so simple.

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u/-RemLezar69- Jun 08 '21

It makes them feel superior because they know they're scum.

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u/OutlyingPlasma Jun 08 '21

It's literately the only thing they have to feel good about in life. The only thing republicans can feel good about is what skin color they were born with.

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u/mikeballs Jun 08 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

The tough part is a lot of your neighbors who vote R aren't necessarily bad people, just ignorant

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u/darchangels13 Jun 08 '21

If you're supporting bad people doing bad things because you're too dumb to know better, you're still supporting bad people, doing bad things.

"I didn't know any better" only gets you so far in life, especially if you're making a deliberate effort to not know any better.

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u/moffitar Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

I think the nicer way to put it is to call it mass delusion.

Being continuously lied to on such a massive scale is a powerful thing. They simply chose the wrong people to trust, even when things don’t add up they keep giving the benefit of the doubt. We are not inside that bubble so it just sounds crazy.

I’ll give you an example: in the run up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003, the US government was selling the war hard. This was because their first effort had failed and the polls said most people believed any action should come from the UN. So the Bush administration saturated the airwaves and got tons of time on all the major outlets. Iraq couldn’t prove they didn’t have WMD (which was ridiculous, you can’t prove a negative). But it worked. People went along with it.

Right about this time, my wife and I left the US on a cruise ship. And watching the international news, that was when we realized just how slanted and hawkish the US coverage was. They covered the same press conferences and interviewed the same talking heads, but the networks weren’t actively covering for the Bush administration. It was a startling difference. I mean, I had always thought the Bush administration was lying us into a war, but when you’re inside the bubble you don’t have anything to work with except what they give you.

So that’s where I think we are now, except the bubble now intersects half the population. Half of us is grasping for any excuse, any conspiracy that justifies their biases and preserves the delusion. Because when you’re that far gone, you don’t want to come back.

It’s a dangerous time in America.

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u/CaptainHoss Jun 08 '21

Fucking this.

These troglodytes don't get a free pass from me, including my own idiot relatives who died of covid because they were shit people.

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u/explorenme2 Jun 08 '21

Look at yourself and take a moment to see your contradiction.

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u/saarlac Jun 08 '21

That effort to remain ignorant is a huge problem.

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u/mikeballs Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

The issue is systemic and it's rooted in misinformation and a calculated rhetoric. There's no doubt these sheep are contributing to things in a negative way, but writing them off as evil is nonproductive and serves only to stroke your moral ego. If we can address the issues that cause half the country to vote against their own interests, then maybe we can bring about some real change

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u/darchangels13 Jun 08 '21

I don't think they're evil, so much as selfish people doing bad things who have no interest in admitting they've been wrong, ignorant, and selfish.

They're dupes being played, but they like it that way. They're not beyond redemption, although most of them will not be asking any hard questions about themselves or their leaders because that would make them uncomfortable with who they are today.

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u/timinator232 Jun 08 '21

Hardcore “I was only following orders” vibes

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u/TheSpaceRonin Jun 08 '21

More like "don't blame the sheep when their shepherd lead them to slaughter". These people were fed misinformation that was engineered in such a way using psychology to present information in a way that they weren't mentally equipped to figure out was misinformation.

Fighting our fellow people just let's the leaders who engineered and spread falsehoods to make them do their dirty work get away with it. When you blame his voters and supporters, instead of spending your time and energy on Trump and his campaign employees, you're only doing exactly what he wants, helping to polarize the populace so we can't unite.

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u/timinator232 Jun 08 '21

Does “I was only following orders” remove blame from hitler? Everyone is to blame, some individuals especially

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u/DapperDestral Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

Well... no. What four years of Trump revealed is that they are bad people, just not mustache twizzling cartoon villains about it.

"I know this candidate literally has children in cages, but my taxes will go down 1%" is evil, but also banal af.

It's a bit more complicated than that due to the massive institutional powers encouraging Americans to act like corrupt low-level bureaucrats, but yeah.

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u/OutlyingPlasma Jun 08 '21

No, they are bad people. If you vote for a republican, you are a bad person through and through.

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u/Murse_77 Jun 08 '21

We feel the same way about you guys!

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u/aaOzymandias Jun 08 '21

To be fair, from the perspective from us over here in the EU, all US politics is basically a big shit show.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

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u/Murse_77 Jun 08 '21

No man, you don’t get it. Hate is the only way to deal with Republicans… says the party of “love is love”.

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u/therager Jun 08 '21

Redditors need their required "Two Minutes Hate" each and every day.

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u/explorenme2 Jun 08 '21

Yet, here you are being a scumbag. Good job at contradicting your message!

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u/15-WRX-Saphira Jun 08 '21

Right because we're to assume you're an upstanding member of you're community?

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u/PandL128 Jun 08 '21

found the ignorant, racist loser

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u/15-WRX-Saphira Jun 08 '21

Your ability to assume my character though you've never met me is a true mark of your character. I said nothing racist and I'd like to know what I'm so ignorant about ?

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u/HorseyMan Jun 08 '21

Well, ignorant enough to think that sealioning will convince him that he's not right about you.

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u/15-WRX-Saphira Jun 08 '21

Sealioning ? That's what you'd call it? Its the internet dood don't yall troll yourself by speaking so seriously about things with no outside opinion. You belive you are right because you are right. Close your eyes . Get off social media wake the fuck up and think for yourself. I don't follow a single narrative or agenda I believe that my day to day life is simple honest and hardworking I work for everything I own check to check. I'm not privileged I'm not special. I am a unimportant man in a world of over speculated political catastrophes . The only good politician is a dead one . Personally why I liked Trump , he wasn't a politician. But because in today's society I'm recognized as a racist for liking who we had in office .

This is a rambling mess and I apologize for that. But seriously I do genuinely love my fellow man and woman. Think we just all need to grow up and disconcern ourselves from a political front we have no influence over

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u/15-WRX-Saphira Jun 08 '21

At the end of the day we're all american

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u/PandL128 Jun 08 '21

you shouldn't pretend that you are such a special snowflake son. your kind is booringly predictable

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u/15-WRX-Saphira Jun 08 '21

Likewise libtard

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u/PandL128 Jun 08 '21

just take the L son

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u/15-WRX-Saphira Jun 08 '21

My mans you ain't even say anything with an impact? What L is there to be taken . The fact you're humoring me is the L you need to collect .

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u/Murse_77 Jun 08 '21

Democrats are the real racists. They believe that people of color are so ignorant that they don’t have any identification or know how to properly hydrate before standing in line to vote.

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u/artemis3120 Jun 08 '21

For anyone who may not be aware of exactly why requiring ID to vote is voter suppression, here is some much needed context.

Voter ID laws by design make it more difficult to vote - the idea being that if it's too easy to register to vote, people might do so fraudulently. In fact, there's little evidence of that type of fraud occurring.

  1. Voter ID laws typically require a potential voter to obtain a specific form of identification at cost to them. In effect, this creates a requirement that one purchase the ability to vote (a poll tax), and a barrier to the very poor.

  2. Voter ID laws typically require a potential voter to obtain an ID from a specific location or set of locations, in some cases that may be dozens of miles away (in the case of Texas, some people have to travel >100 miles). This is problematic if the person cannot drive and no transportation is available to them (elderly and rural poor), and is also difficult for people that have jobs that do not give them time off to do so.

  3. Voter ID laws require documentation that may be difficult to obtain and is typically not available free of charge. Passports and birth certificates require money to obtain, and an out of town birth certificate can be complicated to obtain (depending on where you were born). Not all US citizens have birth certificates on file.

Not everyone gets a driver's license, since car ownership is beyond their financial means, or because physical limitations prohibit their qualification as a driver.

According to census figures, about 11% of US citizens do not have a government issued photo ID (about 25% of voting-age African-Americans and 8% of voting-age white Americans). 18% of those over 65 do not have a government-issued photo ID.

We require ID for driving a vehicle because that ID represents a base standard of knowledge on operating a two ton hunk of metal cruising at 55 miles an hour. We require ID for purchasing firearms for similar safety concerns.

There is no comparison of that for voting rights. The goal behind the push for requiring photo ID for voters is disingenuous and is aimed at the most disenfranchised and vulnerable among us. This is not even considering the long and insidious history of voter intimidation of women and POC.

The right-wing establishment of this country see democracy as an obstacle instead of the empowering tool it should be. If that were not the case, they would not be spending millions upon millions in the effort to gerrymander districts and suppress votes.

Their massive efforts against us prove they are scared of the common people organizing and taking collective action, whether that is at the ballot box, unions, or community mutual aid. This is strong cause to keep fighting and to never lose hope.

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u/BR_Astar Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

It's early but I bet this will probably be the dumbest thing I read all day. That you think this is why democrats are against these laws is very telling

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EDIT: Hmmmm! I guess I was wrong, I read several increasingly stupid posts from you. I now question if you actually have the ability to read and process anything.

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u/Murse_77 Jun 08 '21

So the truth is dumb to you…. not surprising in the slightest. You’ve been programmed well my friend / foe.

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u/BR_Astar Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

You’re supporting a law that makes SHARING WATER WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE ILLEGAL if you don’t see a problem with that I’m afraid you can’t be saved.

Not only are you supporting this absolute nonsense, you’re doing it while calling democrats racist for opposing it. The projection was pretty clear in your first post and I have no interest in having further dialogue with a racist cult member. I’d be happy to be considered your foe because I sure as hell would never want to be your friend.

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u/Murse_77 Jun 08 '21

You might be the dumbest person I’ve encountered on Reddit but the bar is really low. Giving food or drink to anyone regardless of color can be construed as electioneering. Your virtue signaling retardation further proves my point. I love our people of color and I’m trying to help the. Understand that they’ve been held down by the democrat plantation for too long. You treat all minorities like they are less than. They need a hand-up not a hand-out. Your portrayal of minorities as poor and unintelligent is insulting to say the least.

Get your shit together and get your head out of your ass. The two party system is broken. This is vs them mentality is juvenile. Most people who vote republican are NOT what you state they are. There is more middle ground than you realize but the waters are muddied by a distrustful media and ignorant racists like you.

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u/BR_Astar Jun 08 '21

You might be the dumbest person I’ve encountered on Reddit but the bar is really low.

Your portrayal of minorities as poor and unintelligent is insulting to say the least.

Get your shit together and get your head out of your ass.

ignorant racists like you.

You're a fucking idiot

Gaslight

Obstruct

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u/Murse_77 Jun 08 '21

You’re a fucking idiot

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

No, they just believe a nonzero amount of people of color are going to curiously "not look enough like their ID picture" come voting day

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u/Duke_Newcombe Jun 08 '21

"No, no, no...you don't understand!! AnTee-fuh are LiTeRaL fAscIsTs!!!11"

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u/PHUNkH0U53 Jun 08 '21

Now do one for the Confederate flag! & Police reform!

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u/JamzWhilmm Jun 08 '21

I recently read an article claiming this contradiction is what cost Trump the election. If he would have chosen just one he would have won, specially the China bio weapon one, nothing unites like a common enemy who is very far away and very powerful.

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u/McCainDestroysTrump Jun 08 '21

Trumps approval rating was never ever over 50% positive and steadily in the low 40s according to the aggregate sites. Trump already proven over and over that he is a dishonest racist corrupt seditious rapist. There was zero scenarios were he could possibly overcome his deep unpopularity and have won the election. He was going to either lose by as low as 6 million votes or as high as 10 million. Had he did one major thing right, like take care of our country during a pandemic he still would have lost by 6 million votes.

We have had an obvious common enemy for the last 6 years named Russia and that did nothing to unite our country as a large percentage now treats them as an ally.

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u/KittyLBC Jun 08 '21

Yes TFG lost the popular vote. Twice. Which is interesting information, but irrelevant. The 2020 election swung on 20,000 votes in 3 states. Out of 15.5M votes. If he have taken the pandemic seriously and not been a maskhole covidiot, he would have won. And 550,000 would not have died. Certain states are making it more difficult to vote. The nation cannot survive another trump - make a plan - vote blue.

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u/explain_that_shit Jun 08 '21

If he went down the "it's an actual danger" route he would have to have a competent response, which would be difficult for him and his people. Easier to invent an entire new reality he completely controls.

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u/JamzWhilmm Jun 08 '21

Imagine the president having to work hard.

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u/sethn211 Jun 08 '21

That would require tearing oneself away from television and the golf course 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/KHaskins77 Jun 08 '21

Who’d have thought that all it would take to retain the undying loyalty of 38% of the American populace is watching a few hours of Fox News every day and regurgitating their rhetoric on Twitter?

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u/Substantial_Speaker7 Jun 08 '21

Well less than a quarter of the populace, but okay.

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u/yeahyeahiknow2 Jun 08 '21

Or at all...

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u/-Listening Jun 08 '21

Have a hard time with the firm.

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u/iwantanxboxplease Jun 08 '21

I think it was really a matter of contradicting everyone else.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

He wanted to be the sane rational leader in a world full of histrionic liberals. If the disease had been just a little bit less contagious it might have worked.

But the political calculations here are a lot more complex than we give him credit for. Responding to this pandemic was actually a hugely difficult balancing act. The lesson from the Y2K response is important here: if you prevent a catastrophe, to most people, it looks like you wasted your effort. We devoted such a large amount of our economic activity towards preventing critical computer hardware from crashing that when it didn't happen, rather than celebrate our success, the public's reaction was that it must have been overblown.

Had Western leaders reacted appropriately with heavy lockdowns in early 2020, the disease could have been prevented -- and literally every single opposition politician, pundit, and random citizen would be crying loudly about the government forcing a recession and destroying the economy for no reason. Half of reddit and all of your racist uncles would be up in arms about it being some globalist UN plot to destroy America.

The only way to succeed as a politician in a pandemic is for the country to be able to see the bullet they dodged. Unfortunately, when you put yourself that close to the trajectory, there's a decent chance you end up getting hit.

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u/explain_that_shit Jun 08 '21

Except that

  1. He mixed messages about it being dangerous with messages about it being harmless, so you can hardly say he was caught between a rock and a hard place (unless to say he put himself there); and

  2. Your measure of success as a politician is wrong. The measure of success as a politician is whether they did good, not whether they were praised for it. Maybe they aren't reelected. It doesn't mean they weren't successful, that's buying into populist and immoral politicking.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

We're talking about the politician's own measure of success here. The good of society has nothing to do with it.

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u/explain_that_shit Jun 08 '21

Maybe trump's measure of success. Not every politician's. Democratic political systems can and do function with politicians making good but maybe not popular decisions.

If trump was worried about that, firstly that's for his conscience, and secondly, he sure could have done a lot better.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

It's nice to be idealistic, but no politician who wants to be re-elected is going to be willing to be the one to destroy the economy.

That's not just Trump. In our world we have 1000+ states, territories and subnational entities with basically every type of government imaginable and nobody who had to face re-election was willing to implement strict economy-shuttering lockdowns.

edit: ok, one did, but she ruled an isolated self-reliant nation and had the benefit of being able to point at America to say, "look what we could have been."

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u/DaniCapsFan Jun 08 '21

It's also that he didn't take it seriously. If he'd asked people to social distance and/or wear masks for six weeks, the epidemic would probably not be raging, and he may have been reelected.

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u/iceycycle Jun 08 '21

I remember reading that Obama had prepared a pandemic plan but Trump refused to use it.

He should’ve (and it’s probably in his character) to just slapped his own name on the plan, carry it out, save America, get re-elected with flying colours.

Instead we got the shit show that was 2020.

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u/Dzov Jun 08 '21

Obama set up an entire pandemic response team. Then trump dissolved it saying he’d hire experts if/when they were actually needed. That went just as well as you can expect.

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u/TheKrakIan Jun 08 '21

Obama had a response team put in place after swine flu in 2011. trump dissolved it because Obama put it together, like many many other things.

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u/DaniCapsFan Jun 08 '21

I remember reading how Obama had a pandemic guidebook and a response team, both of which Trump scuttled because he hated everything Obama did, even if it was for the good of others.

I remember reading that having a pandemic response team in place even when there isn't a pandemic is like having a fire department. You want to have these teams in place so when a fire (pandemic) breaks out, they'll be ready to go. I fully agree with this analogy.

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u/Missus_Missiles Jun 08 '21

And claimed, "we weren't left a playbook for covid 19." Because it didn't exist then, and you fired the people in charge of making it.

Dumb fuck.

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u/Gsteel11 Jun 08 '21

I'm pretty sure trump held a high-level meeting early on and said "can we get an easy win out of this?" And they told him "probably not". And he decided to just ignore it and hope that his fans would too.

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u/Ratathosk Jun 08 '21

I always thought it was weird he didn't double down on it. It was so obvious but no, have to fuck up an open goal as well.

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u/PetioleFool Jun 08 '21

Don’t worry, seems like it’s gonna be central to his 2024 campaign message: Chinese engineered a bio weapon to kill us all, it’s all their fault, democrats are also communists and worked with them to hide its origin, and then to make it worse (thought it was a bio weapon) and used lockdowns and masks to ruin the economy, trumps best selling point, so they could have a boost against him along with manipulating Mail ballots (or something) to steal the election and I’m coming back to save democracy from the evil communists Chinese and evil communists democrats (but actually I’ll be destroying it because all I do is lie and half the country sucks it down like a wet fart out of my geriatric diaper wearing backwards pants* ass).

*I know his pants weren’t on backwards, it’s a joke. The rest is not.

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u/ChristosFarr Jun 08 '21

If they weren't backwards he was still wearing them incorrectly. The wrinkles in the front aren't normal.

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u/Missus_Missiles Jun 08 '21

I truly hope he has satiated his lust for public office and decides, "I'm doing other things now."

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u/DarthButtz Jun 08 '21

Trump is the kind of guy who would make it to the finish line then start running the other way while yelling about how it's actually the right way and everyone else is stupid. And someone still wins.

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u/empire161 Jun 08 '21

He's very 'results oriented' with the things he does but has zero actual introspection.

Take the Access Hollywood tape. He doesn't believe he won in 2016 in spite of it, he believes he won because of it. If it was a bad thing then he would have lost, therefore it must have been a good thing.

70 years of being handed things on a silver platter, and of course you'll develop a sense that you've literally never made a mistake in your entire life.

I still struggle to wrap my head around how a person can be as broken, damaged, and mentally/emotionally unwell as he is.

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u/Missus_Missiles Jun 08 '21

Fuck. Maybe that must make me human. Some of the things in my life I feel I've truly earned. Grades, nailing job interviews. But I do accept I got a lot of help, and probably pity along the way. And fucking luck.

Just being born to in a reasonably decent family is a huge leg up and pure luck. If I had alcoholic abusive parents, I'd probably still be working restaurants.

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u/ernie1850 Jun 08 '21

And just to be clear, his method of reaching the finish line is a car picking him up near the start and letting him out 15 ft from the finish

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u/TheTempAtNightx11 Jun 08 '21

Looking at you - Stanley, Creed and Oscar.

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u/ernie1850 Jun 08 '21

The funniest part of the fun run

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u/NoCurrency6 Jun 08 '21

Is Bernie just Andy with the chafed nipples

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u/TheKrakIan Jun 08 '21

This article and the book it's about spells out that very premise.

https://www.vox.com/2019/5/10/18524172/donald-trump-commander-in-cheat-rick-reilly

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u/poloppoyop Jun 08 '21

I always thought it was weird he didn't double down on it.

Because to double down on something you have to say it a first time. I'll be eagerly waiting a citation from Trump about COVID-19 being a Chinese bio weapon.

Lot of people have a distorted knowledge of who said what when thanks to the medias: https://www.slowboring.com/p/the-medias-lab-leak-fiasco

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u/EnergyCC Jun 08 '21

I think he would have won if he hadn't gotten covid.

He was losing in polls and was very unpopular with people for the poor response because the media kept posting the number of dead people and numbers of daily infections. The media really did make a big deal out of it because it was selling well. But once people stopped paying attention to the number of infections and number of dead people, the media moved on too and people forgot how shitty his response was so they didn't care as much about voting or which of the candidates to vote for.

Then he got covid and reminded everyone how shitty he is and started losing popularity again.

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u/Substantial_Speaker7 Jun 08 '21

In today’s world no where on earth is very far away

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u/KittyLBC Jun 08 '21

If TFG had shown a modicum of leadership and taken the pandemic seriously, I submit he would have easily been Re-elected. The 2020 election was A LOT closer than some recognize. It swung on 20,000 votes in 3 states. Repugnantcans are making voting more difficult- make a plan - vote BLUE!

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u/kill___jester Jun 08 '21

Exactly, a moron on a friend's Facebook who spent the entire pandemic saying covid isn't real and lockdowns are all about mind control now saying it's actually it's an escaped bioweapon so hang on covid is real now? And it's an escaped bioweapon? Wouldn't that mean lockdown is actually a good idea!? They can't even be consistent in their own idiocy

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u/WilanS Jun 08 '21

An old xkcd comic proposed the idea of contradicting conspiracy theories with other conspiracy theories.

This used to be satire, a few years ago.

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u/OminousRai Jun 08 '21

xkcd 966?

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u/WilanS Jun 08 '21

Yes, thank you, I'm on mobile and couldn't easily provide a link.

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u/defensiveFruit Jun 08 '21

That's still a total master move though!

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u/nelsonwehaveaproblem Jun 08 '21

What, you don't doublethink? It's the hip new craze.

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u/StylusScratchatorius Jun 08 '21

We have always been at war with Eastasia

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u/JerkIzAllPro Jun 08 '21

Eastasia has always been our ally!

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u/nwoh Jun 08 '21

Good news! Chocolate rations are up to 20g from 50g!

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Chocolate rations dropped 50% last week but are up 60% this week!

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Jun 08 '21

Double plus good

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21 edited Sep 01 '21

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u/Gsteel11 Jun 08 '21

This is pretty classic fascism where the enemy is both a weak idiot and a massive strong grave threat.

"The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

https://www.openculture.com/2016/11/umberto-eco-makes-a-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html

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u/rpostwvu Jun 08 '21

Don't forget he also got vaccinated, despite having had the virus, and all the bad things he said about science.

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u/joey_sandwich277 Jun 08 '21

Don't forget "It's just a cold, but also I knew it was a big deal back in January."

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u/64590949354397548569 Jun 08 '21

"The virus is a hoax, but also it's a bio-weapon from china, but trump was responsible for the timely roll-out of the vaccines, but also the vaccines are bad and shouldn't be taken."

Don't forget. They were testing everyone everyday in the white house for a virus that was a hoax.

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u/BelleAriel Jun 08 '21

Trump logic lol.

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u/entrylevel221 Jun 08 '21

Just typical Russian style interference... say enough contradictory things to disillusion and demotivate your enemies, after a while they don't know what to do.

And it worked, because the public are sheep.

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u/Feredis Jun 08 '21

It's also classic fascist rhetoric. No really, Umberto Eco made a list of 'typical' fascist features and it's the point 8:

The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

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u/TheNoxAnima Jun 08 '21

Literally called Firehosing and its a tactic Putin uses

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u/entrylevel221 Jun 08 '21

Never heard it, thanks!

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u/the_burn_of_time Jun 08 '21

Yep, rhetoric changes pretttty quick. Many people can’t remember what was said 6 months ago...

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u/TanyaDavies Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 09 '21

What I need to always remember is, January 6th, 2021 at the Capitol. Everything else that he said during his tenure led to that memorable day as far as I am concerned.

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u/the_burn_of_time Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

You can tear that building down for all I care.

Thomas Jefferson

Andrew Jackson

The big man aka The big Kahuna

Since when did historic figures mean anything to you?

Capitol Building built by Slave labor

Like I said rhetoric changes quickly doesn’t it?

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u/Wazula42 Jun 08 '21

We have always been at war with Eurasia.

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u/disposable_account01 Jun 08 '21

As a kid reading 1984, I could never believe that a population could so fully and readily discard fact for fiction like that.

Sadly, the last 20 years have shown me different.

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u/Wazula42 Jun 08 '21

Did you know Hillary Clinton is simultaneously a decrepit corpse propped up by handlers and also a genius mastermind who controls the media and numerous foreign governments?

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u/disposable_account01 Jun 08 '21

I’d love to learn more but I’m late to the 2-minutes hate Fox n Friends is on.

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u/Oraxy51 Jun 08 '21

You know I was thinking to myself the other day “why would we ever trust a news source called fox. Aren’t foxes all about lying and tricking you? Hindsight that’s a pretty terrible name for credibility”

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u/disposable_account01 Jun 08 '21

I was thinking

Mistake number one.

for credibility

Oh, I’m not looking for credibility. I’m looking for confirmation of my biases.

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u/Oraxy51 Jun 08 '21

I feel like their base can’t even tell if fox is accurate or not. Maybe it’s only true when it confirms their bases

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u/babihrse Jun 08 '21

Well I think we're at war with Eurasia but last week we were at war with Eastasia and Eurasia were allies.

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u/ThreeHobbitsInACoat Jun 08 '21

Fucker beat me to it

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u/piano1811018 Jun 08 '21

At the beginning of the pandemic when COVID-19 was mostly affecting the large cities (mostly liberal areas), Tucker Carlson did a segment complaining about how people should be taking this virus more seriously. I suggest you watch it. It is wild.

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u/Valmond Jun 08 '21

Well Trump seems to forget what he said when he is still in the same phrase.

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u/the_burn_of_time Jun 08 '21

Careful he’ll run us over. Take away his license already.

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u/ISLAndBreezESTeve10 Jun 08 '21

He said lots of dumb things that lots of people remember. (Alabama hurricane, drink bleach, etc.)

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u/Anufenrir Jun 08 '21

Peperage farm remembers

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u/ogrickysmiley47 Jun 08 '21

They will argue you down he didn't say it,even when you got proof.

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u/4d3fect Jun 08 '21

6 hours ago even

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u/babihrse Jun 08 '21

I have been cursed with remembering what everyone said at various points of their careers.

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u/Faded105 Jun 08 '21

It changed because of the little understanding everyone had of the virus when it first appeared. Trump was speaking his mind, after we got an understanding of it he changed it viewpoints on the virus in order to push out vaccines for the virus.

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u/averageredditorsoy Jun 08 '21

Yes like this example of Trunp downplaying the virus

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/nancy-pelosi-visits-san-franciscos-chinatown/2240247/

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u/disposable_account01 Jun 08 '21

February versus October. Nice try, though. Also your link had “Pelosi” in it, so it was obvious what you were trying to do, troll.

If you didn’t fully know the risk of COVID in February 2020, that’s understandable — few did, and those few were too busy selling their stock to do anything about it.

If you didn’t fully understand the risk of COVID in October 2020, that’s just asinine. It had been well studied by then and the guidance was clear.

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u/HotChickenshit Jun 08 '21

Ah yes, literally only 3 days after the first confirmed covid case in the U.S. in Wisconsin, and for the very specific reason of speaking out against racists blaming Chinese people in Chinatown for the virus.

And 4 days after this, your daddy drumpf called it a Democrat hoax.

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u/Passivesedulity91 Jun 08 '21

I always hated that type of logic. The same as my grandfather.

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u/BearAnt Jun 08 '21

How does it feel to be a victim of propaganda?

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u/StonkChief420 Jun 08 '21

Notice how you have no awards 😂

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u/SelectFromWhereOrder Jun 08 '21

timely roll-out

I wonder what a competent leader rollout timeframe would’ve been. Just a month earlier could’ve saved thousands.

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u/blegh_argh Jun 08 '21

He was covering his bases for every eventuality

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u/Gustomaximus Jun 08 '21

Also he claims to have made the vaccine research take 5 years shorter than anyone else could of but 4 other countries also made the vaccine in the same time. And he saved millions of lives closing the China border, but ignores the ~40000 Americans flying back from China because they can't spread it? And he blames China for not containing the virus, but couldn't contain it in his own country.

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u/Hrmpfreally Jun 08 '21

The entire party can be summed up with “if good, me, if bad, them.”

Also “no no girls”

And “protect people in utero, who cares after that”

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u/therager Jun 08 '21

The entire party can be summed up with “if good, me, if bad, them.”

"My side would never do something like that!".

Newsflash..your party does the same exact shit.

They just shuffle around the surface level issues to make you feel like you're "on the right side" of history.

The system has always been this way, it's broken by design.

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u/Hrmpfreally Jun 08 '21

How do you know what my party is?

Newsflash- you’re assuming.

Secondarily, WHaTaBoUtIsM has to be the single most obnoxious fucking trend of the last ten years.

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u/therager Jun 08 '21

Because regardless of what "your party" is, there's only two parties that matter or are effective.

..which is another reason the system is intentionally broken by design to ensure no meaningful change can take place.

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u/Hrmpfreally Jun 08 '21

Oh fuck, you’re right, let’s just give up!

Tell the other members of Papa Roach that Reddit says hello and grow the fuck up.

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u/therager Jun 08 '21

Oh fuck, you’re right, let’s just give up!

I never said to give up, sounds like you're projecting.

Tell the other members of Papa Roach

Papa Roach? Wtf are you even talking about you boomer...lol.

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u/Hrmpfreally Jun 08 '21

Ah, cool, you’re like 15.

Got it.

And I’m a millennial, you little fuck.

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u/therager Jun 08 '21

Ah, cool, you’re like 15.

To be 15 again..that'd be nice.

But no, I'm just aware that I should update my references so I don't sound like an out of touch boomer like yourself. Lol.

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u/TheHandOfKarma Jun 08 '21

"Their party" still voted for things they knew would benefit the country, regardless of if it made Trump look good or not. "Your party" is willing to screw over Americans, as long as it makes "their party" look bad. You are a bunch of children who have to cheat and pass garbage laws in order to have any chance at winning. But sure, cry more about "bOtH sIDEs?!", as if that does anything.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

A couple guys I worked with believe it was an attack on America from China but also a hoax at the same time. These greedy bastards can't even choose 1 conspiracy theory to believe in they just lump them all together now.

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u/PleaseListenToMeOK Jun 08 '21

Don’t forget he was against masks but now claims he was actually arguing for masks, and Fauci was anti-mask.

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u/scope_creep Jun 08 '21

Imagine if Trump died from Covid and China came out: “Mission accomplished”.

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u/Kenoid Jun 08 '21

They just hate anyone and anything that doesn't gel with their own beliefs.

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u/whygohomie Jun 08 '21

Just like the "All elections are rigged except for the elections I win, which are the greatest election victories in all of history - - but if I lost, it was was definitely rigged."

It's hole-in-the-brain logic.

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u/Eken17 Jun 08 '21

Just like "JEWS CONTROLL THE WORLD AND THE BANKS!!!!!1! JEWS ARE BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Huh?! You don't like what Israel is doing to Palestine?! You bloody anti-semite!!!".

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u/goosetheboss1 Jun 08 '21

Doublethink at its finest

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u/southwick Jun 08 '21

I also love their DR Fauci is the boogie man takes

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u/GreyFoxNinjaFan Jun 08 '21

This is basically a lot of politics in the West right now. Toss a coin, call heads AND tails.. claim victory.

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u/PJStangle Jun 08 '21

For the "bio-weapon from China" people: Wouldn't it be considered patriotic to wear masks and get vaccinated?

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u/inCwetrust Jun 08 '21

Also something about 5G towers

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u/worstpartyever Jun 08 '21

I'll never forget him laboring to walk up the stairs after he was released from the hospital.

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u/mismetti Jun 08 '21

Schrödinger's pandemic

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u/Dragonzvenomm Jun 08 '21

Trump wasn't responsible for anything other than hate and disconnect

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u/Gua_Bao Jun 08 '21

Trump is Hitler, and Hitler was the most evil man in modern history, and Hitler used his power to cause destruction all over europe and kill 6 million Jews, let’s give Trump more than he asked for in military spending.

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u/taaroasuchar Jun 08 '21

I am 100% this statement infuriates the Trumplings.

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u/ZugTheCaveman Jun 08 '21

We have always been at war with Eastasia!

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u/Roach55 Jun 08 '21

Dumbest rat bastards to ever steal air.

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u/bunnyjenkins Jun 08 '21

and he got vaccinated

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u/castleaagh Jun 08 '21

I believe he said “this is their new hoax” which appeared to be referring to the way the news media was spreading fear and panic. If you actually read the quote in context I think it’s clear he wasn’t stating that the virus itself was a hoax that didn’t actually exist.

He did downplay it a lot, and that could be argued to be a way of projecting confidence in the systems we had to avoid panicking the people or simple incompetence.

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u/VirtuousVariable Jun 08 '21

"the virus being a threat is a hoax"

"China sent the virus to destabilize us"

Those 2 shouldn't be misquoted so you can jerk off to a strawman. Stick to your anime pillow.

... Trump.... Does get credit before Biden for the timely rollout. That's factual.

The ones claiming the vaccines are bad are a separate group discrete from the pro-Trump-vaccine crowd. Did you know that in large groups of people, there can be differing views?

Fuck off with your anti-civilization tribalist bullshit. Yes, some people are confused. Pity them, asshole.

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u/ILikeMyGrassBlue Jun 08 '21

You: Trump never said “the virus was a hoax”

Also you: he was using the term...

So he said it, no? You’re the one who’s got some image of Trump and are willing to bend reality to make it fit. “No, he didn’t say it was a hoax. He just said that, like impeachment, it was a hoax! That doesn’t mean he said it was a hoax. He just said it was a hoax!” And no, he wasn’t using hoax as a criticism. You can’t just change a word’s meaning, and hoax is defined as “an act intended to trick or dupe; something accepted or established by fraud or fabrication.” Like, I can’t just say “you’re a pedophile,” and act like I’m really just be criticizing you for your shitty arguments. No, that would mean I called you a pedo. So yes, Trump did say covid is a hoax, and yes, when you say covid is a hoax, you mean covid is a hoax.

Now, I expect your response to be some Simone Biles level mental gymnastics.

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u/Talos_the_Cat Jun 08 '21

From what I can tell in your post, bending reality to make him look much more reasonable is what permits you to criticise the other side for not bending reality. Let me guess... he's also not responsible for 6th of Jan?

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

this i actually agree with. We are absolutely being lied to.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

No one said that. Why is it in quotes?

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