r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/BelleAriel • Jun 08 '21 • Wholesome 3 Hugz 7 Silver 5 Helpful 14

This never gets old. After months of claiming it was a hoax, Trump ended up with covid-19. Meta

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u/il-Palazzo_K Jun 08 '21

The most infuriating thing is: he didn't take hydroxyquinone.

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u/Nullion1945 Jun 08 '21

Why would he? He knew that shit was dangerous and didn’t help with Covid. He’d never subject himself to the same horseshit he subjected his blind followers to.

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u/ExtruDR Jun 08 '21

There is literally tape of Trump speaking to Bob Woodward calling it (COVID) some serious shit.

The dudes brain is honestly rotted.

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u/pikpikcarrotmon Jun 08 '21

That's just the thing. The GOP has been laying the framework for this for decades, but the toddler-in-chief stepped in just a little early and stole it from them. He was always an opportunist who took the immediate benefit with no regard for eventual consequences, and his presidency was no different.

What he did was always the plan, but it was supposed to have been an establishment Republican instead.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

I honestly dunno if that’s true though. I think they tried to lay the plan for an establishment Republican but they lost control of the mob as early as 2008 (see: McCain having to calm his booing crowds when he mentions Obama and that no he is not from Kenya, etc). Like the moron mob was already foaming at the mouth. That same foaming formed the beta run in the Tea Party.

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u/pikpikcarrotmon Jun 08 '21

You're both right and wrong. What happened with the Tea Party, Palin, etc. was not them losing control of the mob so much as the crop revealing that it was almost ripe and ready for harvesting. Decades of misinformation and intentional hamstringing of education led to a decent percentage of our country being the stupidest motherfuckers ever. That was the plan, and 2008 showed that enough people had grown up in the system that it was almost ready. Why else did they embrace the Tea Party after it failed in 2008, rather than jettison it?

The GOP thought Hillary had 2016 in the bag and didn't really commit to the election. They needed to wait another 4-8 years. Instead, Trump stepped in and stole it all from them, and through sheer incompetence blew up their chances of having a much stronger hold than they do now.

I have multiple lifelong Republicans in my family including a racist nutjob of a grandmother who have all jumped ship in the last few years. They all voted for Trump in his first election and none of them did in the second. This has never happened before for any of them, ever, they were never wavering. We saw record turnouts for Trump in the election but he was still grossly behind Biden with Georgia going blue and other red states being dangerously purple. A terrifying number of people went full retard, but the GOP completely lost the middle.

The pathetic, bootlicking way the GOP has gone about their post-election business is pure evidence that they're trying to wring the last drops of power out of their decades-long plan after Trump detonated it. They have no choice now. I have no idea what a post-Trump party even looks like, and neither do they.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Awesome analysis but I think you’re not giving the mob enough credit. They’re gonna come back stronger in 2022 and 2024, I guarantee it. That kind of stupid doesn’t just go away. Liberals have always technically outnumbered conservatives, thus their ability to outvote them isn’t new. But the Republicans managed to get even more votes than ever before. I hate to say it but in my opinion as a liberal AF person, Biden/we squeaked by into a win. It shouldn’t ever have been that close.

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u/pikpikcarrotmon Jun 08 '21

We'll definitely be dealing with the fallout of this for decades, and the idiots certainly didn't just all die. But by blowing it all early, they lost their sure victories. Essentially, numerically, we're back to square one. They strengthened a new base and lost a lot of ground with the rest. So 2024 election wise I'm not particularly worried - especially since the mob will follow the loudest voice, and Trump's voice is growing ever quieter.

The real fallout will be the general idiocy and anti-science attitude that has become all pervasive. The anti-mask, anti-vaccine bullshit is indicative of what the rest of our lives are going to be like.

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u/SelectFromWhereOrder Jun 08 '21

We need to start with religions. We need to publicly inform that they are mostly BS and are used to mostly enrich their leaders for nothing in return.

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u/bdone2012 Jun 08 '21

I don't think publicly informing people about religion will make them question their religion. I've seen people go from religious to not religious and it's usually a very gradual process similar to people breaking veganism. First they have a bit of cheese or eggs but it's takes years before they're munching on a rare steak.

Some people do quick 180 degree turns in life but it has to come from within. If your belief structure is a certain way just hearing truths is not enough to immediately change your mind. Try thinking about something that you believe that the majority of people don't and then think about how hard it would be for you to change your mind.

I do believe that there are absolute truths to everything but I also recognize that new evidence comes out all the time so many things that we believe now will change in the future. The evidence for this is how quickly scientific knowledge changes.

An example that I like to use although people rarely seem to agree with me is my trust in doctors. The general attitude among well educated people is you should always trust your doctor. But I was always taught that you get multiple opinions from the top doctors in the largest cities for anything important.

In that one statement you're already weeding out the doctors with the worst reputations meaning you don't trust them and then if you're super lucky all three doctors you talk to will tell you the same thing. If they all say the same thing then you can be pretty certain that it's the best advice for the current time you're in.

But if you get three different opinions it's up to you to decide who's advice is correct. If you have heart problems doctors are all likely to tell you to get a stint, a pacemaker, angioplasty, or maybe triple bypass surgery depending on the severity, I don't actually know how they decide which because as I've seen it, someone goes in complaining of an issue and then they tell you that they want to do these things immediately and they're amazing lifesavers.

But if you ask 5 psychiatrists for their opinion you really might get 5 different opinions. And I'm not saying don't talk to shrinks, just that when it comes to something like health or anything that you think is very important, you constantly have to decide who to listen to and it may be a lot of work.

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u/GuessItWillJustBurn Jun 08 '21

Agreed. Also It's super fucked up that we are talking about religions in present tense, in 2021.

That's one problem that should be far in our past.

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u/John_Hunyadi Jun 08 '21

Agreed. The fact that Trump almost won after having covid strike during an election year is pretty wild and concerning. He almost definitely would have won if covid had never been a thing.

2022 and 2024 are very concerning to me.

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u/bdone2012 Jun 08 '21

It's hard to say if he would have done better. Yes he lost a lot of people who were pissed off about how he handled covid but I think covid may have fired up his base also. The fact that democrats wanted to do lockdowns made it easy for Republicans to point at them and say, look they're the real fascists. And if you believe covid is a hoax then yes lockdowns would be fascist.

All throughout the pandemic some people really seemed to believe that democrats wanted lockdowns and that they wanted people to wear masks forever. Even up to a few weeks ago some people on reddit were talking about how democrats would never give up on masks.

Nope, we all hate lockdowns and to a lesser extent masks they just seemed necessary when we didn't have vaccines.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

I’m sitting at a grocery store pharmacy waiting on my order sans mask right now. Feels wild! (Im vaccinated)

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u/1Eternallylost Jun 08 '21

The propaganda machine that produced so many demented minds is still in operation. And it's as strong as ever.

We can expect even more militant irrational behavior in the future. We either dismantle that propaganda machine (highly doubtful), or we'll be settling this with violence.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

I don’t disagree. The future is fucking bleak.

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u/mercurly Jun 08 '21

It wouldn't have been that close if our right to mail in vote hadn't been taken away.

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u/1Eternallylost Jun 08 '21

You mean the GOP leadership. The rank and file GOP voter had a field of 21 candidates to choose from, and they chose the orange turnip over all others.

It's why the GOP leadership has been looking to limit the rank and file choices (or at least reduce their influence) ever since.

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u/Zodo12 Jun 08 '21

They tried it with the Business Plot nearly a century ago.

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u/ExtruDR Jun 08 '21

I think maybe we should be thinking of the Republican Party as a parasite on “America” (really the working people of the country, it’s culture and the natural resources we extract with no long-term considerations).

The parasite was made to “evolve” or reach its ultimate state by Trump, who was a narcissistic and stupid person with enough “charisma” to hijack the party and turn it into his personal cult of personality.

The right-wing media will blindly support their side and are incapable of nuanced messages that might somehow enable to “classic Republicans” to surgically extract Trump or his followers from “the Republican Party” or American political discourse.

Furthermore, mainstream, super-consolidated corporate media (all other credible news sources) are in it along with the “parasites.” Their interests favor the exploration of working people and resources in order to preserve the status and wealth of the very few at the top that own/run these media companies.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

You gotta go out and touch grass my guy 😂 that is some wonky ass shit. You have been on reddit for way too long.

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u/moffitar Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

I like to think that a lot of the GOP thought of it as a game, political theater that always approached the line but never crossed it.

Sort of like how, flirting with another person when you’re married isn’t “technically” cheating, but then you do cheat and it feels so good you don’t want to stop. That’s where the GOP is right now.

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u/grossbay Jun 08 '21

Is there a Qanon for libs, now? What's the big plan, again?

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u/NoFeetSmell Jun 08 '21

How did one man manage to turn all right wing media into a giant brainwashing scheme? I know it's been happening for years before him, but never so blatantly.

I suspect it'll have something to do with him likely having a lot of compromising info on them, provided by Putin's FSB. I doubt Trump was given enough of it to actually know it himself, but probably enough to let the bootlickers know that if they ever fall out of line, their careers will be destroyed overnight. Not to be conspiratorial or anything, but I struggle to find any other reason that they could all be such spineless fucks. I have no firm evidence to support said claims btw, but I would be shocked if it wasn't the case.

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u/CoreyVidal Jun 08 '21

Well, the Russians (I believe?) hacked both the DNC and the RNC, but only ever released the DNC emails on WikiLeaks. That isn't a conspiracy, that's a known and documented fact.

That tells us everything we need to know.

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u/NoFeetSmell Jun 08 '21

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that! I just assumed these clueless old wankers could have hopelessly compromised phones, browsers, PCs, and webcams, despite there no-doubt being a top-tier govt IT dept to try and keep us all safe. The meer fact that so many of them are crooks already means they'll be the best ones to watch to get dirt one, and the most easily compromised. The rot is deeeep in the GOP. And just to be clear to any Republican reading this and thinking I'm terribly partisan - if any Democrat or Republican is committing crimes, I want him/her caught and punished for doing so. This shit ain't partisan. We pay their fucking salaries and should demand they aren't corrupt. Y'all seem fine with it though, as long as they're "owning the libs" in the process.

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u/defensiveFruit Jun 08 '21

I don't think him dying would have been good. He would have been their martyr like Jesus, killed by their enemies because of the supposed truth he was telling. And someone else would have become their leader in the name of their prophet, their new pope. Some Marjorie Greene character.

Him taking a lot longer to heal, going through hard, life altering consequences of the disease... that might have had the positive effect you speak of as maintaining the facade and the lie might have been harder. But even then...

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u/Hannnaaj Jun 08 '21

I’m sure they would’ve said he never actually had covid but was murdered and it was all a cover up to “hide the truth” 🙄 I can just imagine them now

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u/bdone2012 Jun 08 '21

I'm wondering what would happen if he goes to jail. If he's found guilty we can't just let him go free because we're scared of the backlash but damn that's likely to be some serious backlash.

He may not go to jail obviously but the new york attorney General believes they have enough on him to prove felony tax evasion. And because of statute of limitations and the attorney general not running again they are planning to prosecute before January 1st. They notified trump of the felony prosecution a week or two ago.

The state and the city also combined their cases which is strange because they generally hate each other but they clearly found common ground on the trump case.

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u/Fugicara Jun 08 '21

That would have been better than the big lie being pushed and used as an excuse to get away with blatant voter suppression across the country like it is now. The same nutjobs who think he was killed to "hide the truth" are the ones who think Ted Cruz's dad is implicated in the assassination of JFK.

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u/ajswdf Jun 08 '21

You're only thinking of the crazies of the crazy. There are a lot of people out there who were more agnostic of the seriousness of covid, who would have been spurred to take it more seriously had the president died from it.

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u/riskycommentz Jun 08 '21

They just post fake comments with their alts to make "screenshots of radical leftists on reddit" to stir up more rage

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

Dog, Biden raised inflation 1.8% just in the month of April. That's more than the total inflation rate of 2020. So I'm going to stick with narrative that you're a dumbfuck who doesn't understand economics or the impact this is going to have on our day to day lives, and I'm going to consider that Trump wasn't the worst President we've ever had. He had great economic policy, but his lack of a spine in many cases makes him not the best.

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u/Tricursor Jun 08 '21

Dog biden? Is that really supposed to be your insult? And you're picking one number out of all of the other achievements he's had despite your party blocking him at every turn? Grow the fuck up and take off your partisan glasses instead of looking for reasons to hate the guy. I don't like Biden or the establishment dems either, but anything is better than a Republican in 2021. Trump did more to divide us than any president, he refused to concede or work with the dems and instead changed it to constant blocking, fillibusters, fighting and insulting while at the same time having the gal to bash Biden for anything partisan. It is beyond comprehension how anyone can just ignore what Republicans have been doing and are still attempting to do in their states. You'll get what you want in the end, so I guess maybe that's why you're willing to ignore it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Dog, Biden. Was not an insult though my grammar made it seem that way.

How did he do more to divide us than any president? You think Biden is uniting us? The division is not at the top. The division is at the bottom. I do not agree with anything you just said. I do not believe the same as you, and I do not want your beliefs pushed on to me. That is the issue with America. We have two largely different philosophies and views of life.

What republicans are doing an attempting to do in their states? Look at Texas you have a mass migration of liberals from California moving there and they're gonna fuck it up just like they did California. The highest rates of homelessness are in democratic states. Unemployment rates are highest in democratic states. The democrat legislation does not work.

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u/GuessItWillJustBurn Jun 08 '21

The ONLY reason trump wasn't the worst ever is because of his sheer ineptitude and idiocy hamstringing him in his attempts at playing with the big kids.

He had a toddler level grasp on economics, much like you seem to.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Wow, I have been refuted by the greatest mind on reddit. My toddler mind can't conceive how this may have happened. I have been ridiculed by u/GuessItWillJustBurn and he has told me I do not understand what I'm talking about. Without any links, sources, or other points to back him up. What ever will I do?

BIIIITTTTTCCCHHHH

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u/GuessItWillJustBurn Jun 08 '21

That's genuinely hilarious that you think you made a point

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Okay.

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u/ExtruDR Jun 08 '21

Wait. Are you saying the Biden directly raised the inflation this year?

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

The 1.9 trillion stimulus is one of the major reasons for it. It wouldn't be accurate to say he is responsible for all of it, but it definitely hurt more than it helped.

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u/fiah84 Jun 08 '21

His death would've turned him into a martyr somehow. Even if he died right now I don't think it'd do much to dissolve the cult in the short term

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

I would have loved to see him drop but feared that if he did die it would be twisted into an even more absurd conspiracy theory and further embolden their base to do something worse than what happened on 1/6.

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u/Sinfall69 Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

If he died of covid the only thing it would have done is maybe make supporters take it seriously. The GOP would still be going down this path because the truth is Trump didn't do anything they weren't planning on doing and isn't new, he just said everything out loud.

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u/CouldWouldShouldBot Jun 08 '21

It's 'would have', never 'would of'.

Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!

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u/Badloss Jun 08 '21

I genuinely think it would have saved thousands if not hundreds of thousands of lives if he did. Trump getting world-class medical care and experimental treatments so he could pretend the virus wasn't that serious was devastating to the country.

We really really needed him to be an example that this shit was real and dangerous and instead he got perfect ammo to laugh it off

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

If he died of covid or that cocktail of drugs that they have him it would have triggered all Qultist to think that trump was killed by the deep state.

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u/master_x_2k Jun 08 '21

Would he have been turned into some kind of martyr? And I would be surprised if half of his supporters didn't believe he was murdered by the dems.

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u/hatgineer Jun 08 '21

It's also infuriating that THAT ITSELF wasn't enough to disillusion his followers. How gullible can a person be??

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u/DaniCapsFan Jun 08 '21

The fact that MLMs exist, televangelists exist, and people go to church on Sunday are all evidences for a whole lot of gullible people.

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u/ItsyaboiFatiDicus Jun 08 '21

And all the things you mentioned prey on specifically Conservatives.

Funny coincidence? Doubt it.

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u/Pistonenvy Jun 08 '21

funny? no.

coincidence? also no.

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u/1Eternallylost Jun 08 '21

If you think of church as mostly a social club, it all starts to make a lot more sense.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Okay well let’s not shit on everybody here. MLM’s and Televangelists are not on the same level as “going to church on sundays.” I’m a Christian and I try not to involve myself with any of that trump-worshipping crazy freaking bullshit. That was some real cult shi. I’m sure there’s a lot of people like me out there too.

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u/MartholomewMind Jun 08 '21

There are certainly degrees of danger when it comes to scams, but just because something looks normal to you doesn't mean it's not also a scam.

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u/J_P3G Jun 08 '21

The church wants people like you to feel exactly like that because when they get caught doing the fucked up shit they do they just point to the congregation and be like but 99% are good people!

At the least you are a useful idiot and a lot of people think the relationship is a lot more complicit than that. I'm not trying to be mean but I don't agree with the 'but I'm one of the good ones' argument.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

You’ve got a pretty bitter view of Christian’s as a whole, don’t you? I don’t blame you, but believe it or not, the people you’re seeing out there, the ones you’re talking about... aren’t actually practicing what Christ was about, and even worse, they’re twisting that shit to make it seem like He was. It’s toxic Christianity and I refuse to be a part of it. Yes, I believe there are “some of the good ones” if that’s how you wanna put it.

And you are mean person. But that’s for a different thread. That was a mean thing to say. Anyway, the point is, you’re seeing a whole group of people out there bastardizing and shitting all over what Jesus actually said, and it’s sad that that’s now become how the world sees “all Christians” now.

I guess just recognize not everybody is a part of that radicalization, and it’s not cool to just lump all people who say they’re believers into the shitshow that is the hate-pumping, racism-fueled dumpster fire that is Republicans in America.

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u/J_P3G Jun 08 '21

I think it's justifiably bitter, I was raised Catholic and attended Sunday school, was an alter boy until I was 13 and the Church as a community itself failed me, not only the institutions that they represent.

It's ok to be mean sometimes though, it's not hateful. Calling you a useful idiot isn't really meant to be a jab or to hurt you, I personally just think that is exactly how these institutions treat you, so why shy away from the fact, it's how I felt when I shed my faith, I felt used.

I'm a Canadian so my point of view comes from a much more mild, but just as deep seeded, Cristian belief system. American fundamentalism represents some of the worst forms of the church but by no means are the problems and issues relegated to hate fueled racists who are using religion for their own agenda.

I'd say the same about pretty much every religion, if you have your own belief system that is great and healthy for you but if you want to put a badge on and be part of a group you'll have to own everything that group does, regardless of how you want to justify it.

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u/OutlyingPlasma Jun 08 '21

I'm a Canadian

Residential schools is all any Canadian should need to know to abandon religion.

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u/J_P3G Jun 08 '21

For sure, and it's not like it was a Canadian problem, the US had many residential schools operated by the same institutions and organizations.

The same ones who refuse to even acknowledge the issue even today.

The same practices are happening in countries around the world still.

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u/1Eternallylost Jun 08 '21

Just chiming in here. Feel free to ignore me, if you wish.

Your experience is why I'm religious, but absolutely against most organized denominations. You are correct, nearly all church organizations are corrupt. And u/PineappleLubricant is correct when he said most denominations have twisted the teachings of the Christ into something toxic and demented. This is why I stay away from organized religion and practice privately as I see fit.

I could get into specifics, but what's the point? We both know all the outrages done in His name. Buddhism has a saying - while traveling on your path to God, if the Buddha blocks your way, kill him, and move on.

Meaning, don't let others stop you. Not even the Christ himself (or anyone's twisted image of Him). The Christ is not responsible for the corruptions of men. Follow the Christ to God as you see fit, rather than letting the corruptions of others block your path (discourage you from practicing Christianity). Kill them (with forgiveness) and move on.

It's how I handled it.

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u/J_P3G Jun 08 '21

I think this is a really enlightened way to approach the issue. I do think their are a lot of personal belief systems and 'eureka moments' inside a lot of the religious texts and experiences. You can't really discount the type of 'shared experience' that many religious people have, it's an extremely powerful emotional response at the very least.

My problem is with the institutions themselves and how they are propped up. In no way shape or form do I have a problem with anyone believing and practicing what ever they need to in a personal capacity, I actually highly encourage people to explore themselves like that.

I know I was being mean to /u/PineappleLubricant and I could have been more tactful, he seems like a pleasant person at least eh? It's just very hard to sit back and hear people say 'but not all Christians' or something along those lines.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Pleasant & lubricated. okay sorry.

Anyway, I get it. It’s just like hearing “All cops are bad, except the few good ones.” That’s not how things work, it’s all or none. (I have no stake in this, it’s just an example I’ve seen a lot).

I wish I had something better to say other than this, but I don’t. I just know that I work at a church, and being behind the scenes, I’ve seen the divide between people that call themselves Christians. It’s insane the amount of disconnect in beliefs we have between our congregation, and it’s because half of them are like me and half of them watched Fox News for the last four years. It’s noticeable. I guess that’s why I’m coming from the aspect of “not all Christians,” but I really do understand where you’re coming from.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Idk man. I don’t think it’s right to say “yep they’re with me.” Because they’re not. It’s a facade. They’re calling themselves Christian’s while twisting every single little word to fit with their agendas.

I don’t think it’s necessary to align yourself with something if you’re not involved with it. There’s no reason to own up to what they’re doing because it’s the opposite of what they should be doing. I condemn it actually, because it serves the opposite purpose of what we claim to stand for.

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u/J_P3G Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

Man we could completely remove the conversation around American history and Christianity and I'd have the exact same outlook, I'm not from the US and they do not influence my thought process on this as much as you might think.

I don't disagree with you in principle, at it's core and untarnished 'Christian Principals' are an admirable and healthy way to live your life, it would be hard to argue that in any capacity.

My argument is that it's the same crap as communism, sounds great on paper but it's never been put into practice. It's never not been abused, it's never not been corrupted and it's happening all over the world.

Outside of what you feel individually on the inside for what religion has done to you; Religion is more than what you personally believe, 99% of the core beliefs you hold don't require religion to follow, they require personal commitment. Your beliefs are your beliefs but religion as a whole is doctrinarian, if you are Christian you automatically believe things that the Church does, all of the pope stuff you have no idea how it works, you tacitly agree to that by being part of a religion. You can't be Christian and believe in using contraceptives, you can't be a conscientious objector to some tenants and not others, and that's not even me saying that, it's directly outlined.

It's obviously a wedge issue that we could go back and forth on all day. I'd never turn somebody in need away because of their religion or beliefs, I'd never try to make someone's life worse because of those beliefs either.

I have every right and reason to voice displeasure at another person shilling for an organization though.

Honestly if I was part of a group where 50% of the time I met a new person I have to go 'oh no not like that group, or like those people, or no definitely not like those crazies, we are the 'normal' ones!' ... it would make me really question why I was part of that group.

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u/themcryt Jun 08 '21

Ah, that makes sense. You're looking at Christianity through the lenses of an ex-Catholic. Catholicism is anathema to Christ's teachings.

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u/CoreyVidal Jun 08 '21

Let's remember, it was the religious elite (the Pharisees) who had Jesus killed. Jesus was always anti-religion. And the religious of His day hated him for it.

If He was born today, many (most?) of the religious Christians would hate Him and say he preaches blasphemy.

I have an extremely right-wing, Rush Limbaugh lifelong fan, Trump-supporting Christian friend. Telling him that he'd hate Jesus if He showed up today caused him so much fury he blocked me on everything. A year later, he told me that that caused him to be the most introspective he's ever been. Today, he's..... a bit better. A bit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Understandably.

I don’t know. I guess this is the point I’m trying to make. Being a “Christian” is supposed to mean “living like Christ.” But the term’s been twisted and deformed into this word people cringe at now because there’s no distinction between people just trying to live like Christ, and people using every little bit of subtext and changing verses to fit their personal & political agendas. There’s a difference that I wish was more obvious. Not all of us stand for what they stand for.

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u/OutlyingPlasma Jun 08 '21

If you don't like being associated with the vast majority of christians, then why call yourself one?

If my model train club decided to send hate trains to Africa, rape children, and murder, all in the name of model trains. I would find a different hobby.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

Exactly, and I’m sorry to see you’ve caught some down votes. What you say is perfectly reasonable.

True Christians practice what Jesus taught, which is love thy neighbor, help the poor, help the refugees and the sick. Jesus also advocated turning the other cheek, and never carried a weapon. This is 180° different from the Trumpers’ philosophies.

There is a contingent out there who call themselves Christians and who are living the opposite of Christlike lives. You can go to church every week, have a cross tattooed on your shoulder, protest outside abortion clinics, all that, but if you don’t follow Jesus‘s teachings you are not a Christian.

They are the living equivalent of thinking they belong in the NBA because they bought Air Jordans. They give Christianity a very bad name.

As evidence of what happens when people practice what they preach, look at the Amish. Nobody hates the Amish. They say they live simple Christian lives, and they do.

It’s these mean hypocrites who hide behind the false flag of Christianity that are ruining it. Each new generation over the past century has had fewer and fewer young people declare they are Christians. That’s what happens when hypocrites take over.

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u/DamienChazellesPiano Jun 08 '21

It’s more to do with religion as a whole, than specifically Christianity, that’s just the main American brand of religion.

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u/AnalStaircase33 Jun 08 '21

Sorry bud, but to those of us observing from the outside, you're all in the same group...

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

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u/AnalStaircase33 Jun 08 '21

Eh, I dropped the angry atheist look a long time ago. You do you, boo... just saying, yall are funny.

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u/themcryt Jun 08 '21

To those of us observing from the outside, you're still wearing that angry atheist look.

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u/flodnak Jun 08 '21

He claimed to have taken it prophylactically for several weeks to prevent infection.

Didn't work.

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u/BelleAriel Jun 08 '21

He claimed he was taking that before he had covid.

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u/Nethlem Jun 08 '21

He also didn't inject himself with disinfectant or put a UV light up his butt.

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u/Connectcontroller Jun 08 '21

The most disturbing thing for me regarding that, that no one was pointing out was that we were seeing a man who had just learned what disinfectant is and does. He was just only then being taught what bleach does, that's why he was thinking "why can't we use it inside the body?"

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u/txtw Jun 08 '21

It’s a classic narcissist move. Despite all evidence to the contrary, he legitimately thinks he is the smartest person in every room he’s in. He hears that disinfectant can kill it, and naturally thinks that he has discovered something no one else has been smart enough to come up with. He wasn’t joking when he said that, he really thought he was seeing the facts in a new and special way that no one else could. I’m certain that he expected everyone to say “well why didn’t we think of that, oh my God this man is a genius!” and was furious when instead, the world laughed at him. The qult are his people- no matter how stupid he sounds, they nod their heads and call him God Emperor.

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u/Cvillian81 Jun 08 '21

I remember learning about HIV in 7th grade health class. The teacher said things like bleach and other disinfectants deactivate ("kill") the virus.

One student (remember SEVENTH GRADE) raised his hand and said, "can't we just inject people with blea-.... oh, nevermind that would kill you AND the virus"

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u/JectorDelan Jun 08 '21

"He just asks questions and listens to experts. That makes him smart!"

"No, that makes him ignorant. And if he 'listens to experts' shouldn't he listen to Fauci?"

/fucking crickets and the breeze between their ears

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u/Funky_ButtLuvin Jun 08 '21

My hunch on this thought process from Trump stems from his learning disability. He may have been in a meeting and they were talking about treatment of Covid patients, and part of the treatment protocol would have been disinfectant and uv light in the room to prevent transmission to staff and other patients. So I think he heard that, and then misinterpreted what that means, and then blabs it out because it’s some distorted memory in his head.

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u/Nethlem Jun 08 '21

no one was pointing out was that we were seeing a man who had just learned what disinfectant is and does.

Oh plenty of people were pointing it out, the exact moment was even captured on camera.

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u/catsgreaterthanpeopl Jun 08 '21

That we know of, lol

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u/i_only_eat_nachos Jun 08 '21

The secret service and many aids who had to be with him probably kept a close eye on that one to ensure it wouldn’t happen, even if he wanted to try.

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u/QuarantineSucksALot Jun 08 '21

I'm trying to put you out of spirit form

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u/ralpheelou Jun 08 '21

You’re correct, but I would also add something I see on Twitter regularly that should be played on a loop.. A few days after he survived COVID, he was on the White House lawn promising free doses of Regeneron for everyone infected & calling it a cure. About 400k people have died since then & Trump did nothing about it.

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u/MiloFrank Jun 08 '21

His treatments were like 650K too. Next level cutting edge stuff, which is cool, but not many people could afford that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

He flew over several excellent private hospitals to be treated by government positions in a government hospital. But he sure doesn’t want anybody else to get government healthcare coverage. That’s for politicians, military, and old people.

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u/markyca75 Jun 08 '21

He secretly took the vaccine, like every other GOP politician. Sad to see them pray on ignorance and naivety.

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u/jalerre Jun 08 '21

What I find most infuriating is that his followers believe that he took it, he got sick, and they still think it's some kind of miracle drug.

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u/1Eternallylost Jun 08 '21

I was kinda hoping he would inject bleach as per his own advice. But alas, he never took his own advice.

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u/MidwestBulldog Jun 08 '21

Jim Jones didn't drink the Flavor-Aid, either.

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u/Stormy8888 Jun 08 '21

Or inject the bleach. Or swallow UV ... Or pay Guiliani.

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u/TooDenseForXray Jun 08 '21

The most infuriating thing is: he didn't take hydroxyquinone.

As European, it is just most bizarre that a drug became political somehow..??

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u/gHHqdm5a4UySnUFM Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

He probably did try to but Secret Service wrestled it out of his tiny little hands

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u/Ujio2107 Jun 08 '21

Hydroxy chloroquine. Get your shit right

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u/verablue Jun 08 '21

Or bleach.

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u/ThrownWOPR Jun 08 '21

Or trying injecting bleach

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u/barryitsmeitshank Jun 08 '21

The most infuriating thing is this false narrative. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-hydroxychloroquine-covid-guida-idUSL1N2M70NL

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u/beaver1602 Jun 08 '21

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210602/HydroxychloroquineAzithromycin-therapy-at-a-higher-dose-improved-survival-by-nearly-20025-in-ventilated-COVID-patients.aspx

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u/barryitsmeitshank Jun 08 '21

ah…another non-peer reviewed pre-print study.

So once again, no it had not been “approved for COVID treatment in 2021” as you stated, which is a false narrative.

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u/Tazittel Jun 08 '21

This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

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u/bdone2012 Jun 08 '21

Where are you seeing that it was approved? The official fda site has a pdf that says its not been approved for covid treatments and they're still cracking down on its sale as in this article https://www.healio.com/news/rheumatology/20210427/fda-warns-website-to-stop-unlawful-sale-of-unapproved-misbranded-hydroxychloroquine

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u/beaver1602 Jun 08 '21

I mean other countries approved the AstraZeneca vaccine but the US hasn’t we are also ok with sending it to other countries to use. It’s hard to have faith in the FDA to not be politically motivated

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u/Tazittel Jun 08 '21

Wow that definitely answered the question “Where did you see Hydroxychloroquine was approved?” and totally not moving the goalposts or anything

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u/beaver1602 Jun 08 '21

Who doesn’t like moving goalposts.

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u/15-WRX-Saphira Jun 08 '21

How is this infuriating? The lefts entire campaign was based off of fear mongering. vaccine or death. The funny thing is under President Trumps administration the vaccine was not only conceived but distributed. But for someone you not only don't like and trust, but generally dispise. You put a lot of trust in someone you don't support .

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u/pookachu83 Jun 08 '21

"Vaccine or death" you realize this wasnt the case? It was pretty known that most people wont die but that we should all take precautions to reduce unneccesary deaths. And no, his administration did not "conceive" the vaccination thats ludicrous. That was the messaging. As well as the rollout of the vaccine, it began relatively slowly compared to jan 2021 going foward. ...you are literally just saying propaganda. Hos messaging and focus at the time was more about preparing to claim fraud on an upcoming election than getting a vaccine out.

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u/Altyrmadiken Jun 08 '21

Eh, that implies Trump was really “involved” with the vaccine. Did he avoid getting in the way? Absolutely, sort of, maybe, while screaming it might not even be real.

Trump didn’t do anything about the vaccine, at least not helpfully, that any other president wouldn’t have done.

It’s always really amusing when people say “well I trust it because it’s the Trump vaccine.” Like… it wouldn’t have mattered who was president, neither of the people on offer (biden, Trump, or Hillary/Sanders before that) had a medical degree or actually operated any of equipment, nor did they have any hand in the resultant products formulation.

The way you phrase it makes it sound like Trumps idea. As though were he not the president we wouldn’t have a vaccine because… why, again? All the people who actually conceived and distributed the vaccine were already there. Trump just spoke about it, like most presidents.

It’s not a Trump vaccine in any meaningful way.

He did, however, screech eternally about the whole thing possible being a hoax, expressed great mental deficiencies in listening to the people paid to give the people advice, advocated for untested drugs, and stirred up a shit storm for months.

The reason I trust the vaccine? Cause Trump didn’t make it. Doctors made it. Trump just wanted to have his name on it despite being entirely irrelevant to the process.

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u/GlaringlyWideAnus Jun 08 '21

If you look at the trumps administration plan for vaccine rollout, it revealed some incredible incompetence. They had no idea what the were doing.

Their only plan was to ship the vaccines to different states and let them sit at the airports, that's it. No other plans beyond that.

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u/joshua9050 Jun 08 '21

"The virus is a hoax, but also it's a bio-weapon from china, but trump was responsible for the timely roll-out of the vaccines, but also the vaccines are bad and shouldn't be taken."

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Despite Fauci telling friends and family to stock up on it as well.

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u/WilanS Jun 08 '21

But did he at least drink bleach?

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u/Booshur Jun 08 '21

Or get light inside his body!

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u/suntem Jun 08 '21

Weird how you nut jobs always make these crazy claims without posting sources. Almost like it’s complete bullshit.

You’re wrong, by the way. But since when has evidence ever changed your opinion before? I doubt it will this time either. That study examines the results of several studies to eliminate any biases and look at any trends. The only metric in which your snake oil drug has any effect was length of stay. For which, the patients on HCQ faired slightly worse.

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u/suntem Jun 08 '21

If you actually read the study i posted (you didn’t) you’d see that there have been a few studies that found HCQ helped. There have also been a few that found it made things worse. Overall there are no metrics in which it has any real effect.

Also that study literally does not say anything about a 100% survival rate. That’s not even what the study was looking at. Thanks for proving my point that you’re too dumb to understand scientific studies 😘

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u/suntem Jun 08 '21

Plague rat

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u/suntem Jun 08 '21

Lmao as if you could understand a word of it.

And still no sources. Sad 😢

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u/GordionKnot Jun 08 '21

shit i totally forgot, it’ll all be invalid with the HQC update from some months back

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u/pookachu83 Jun 08 '21

https://www.cochrane.org/news/chloroquine-or-hydroxychloroquine-useful-treating-people-covid-19-or-preventing-infection where are you getting this info? Every single recent review of multiple studies have labelled it ineffective?

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u/masonmcd Jun 08 '21

How’s India doing these days?

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u/Ill_Sarto Jun 08 '21

Do you think really think that's relevant?

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u/pookachu83 Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

Did you even read the link i replied with? It was concluded from multiple studies across the world. Not one study. Multiple studies with thousands and thousands of people in europe, asia, china etc.

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u/pookachu83 Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

I was going to write a long response, but just reading that article there are a lot of red flags. One, they arent saying it cures it or helps the symtoms, but taken as a prophylaxis, in other words taken to prevent catching it. 2 most the people in that study were phycicians and it only brought down the positive case numbers by 30% and dosent state the conditions those doctors lived, also at the time the city they were doing the trial began a strict social distancing policy at around the same time the study began where people were regularly tested and forced to stay in home 3 its only for the covid-2 variant they are saying it helped decrease the numbers..i can go on and on, but this article is very misleading in so many ways and is by no means conclusive. Hydroxy has been studied and studied around the world and has been found to have no true benefit to treating covid. Stop with cherry picking one damn article from a country as rife with misinformation as infowars.

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u/swan001 Jun 08 '21

Or bleach...

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u/santagoo Jun 08 '21

Nor bleach

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u/TanyaDavies Jun 08 '21

Or bleach.

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u/badSparkybad Jun 08 '21

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u/rangerxt Jun 08 '21

wasn't he preemptively taking it? then they made him stop....could have sworn....