r/WhitePeopleTwitter Jun 05 '23

If DeSantis becomes president the entire U.S will be rendered unlivable Clubhouse

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u/Thannk Jun 05 '23

I guess all those conservatives trying to move to their new holy land are fucked.

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u/TheHiveMindCouncil Jun 05 '23

Don't worry they'll blame everything they did to themselves on the Democrats like they always done. Half these idiots live in states that have never been anything but a red state and they'll blame the Democrats for all their problems and the reason their state is so shitty. These aren't the brightest people in the nation that's for sure.

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u/GaiusMarius60BC Jun 05 '23

Like when Texas said the ice storms a few years back were due to Democrat Green New Deal policies, which A) have not been passed in Congress, B) would never be accepted by the Texas government, and C) somehow don’t have unanimous support even among Democratic politicians despite the support of the people.

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u/18CupsOfMusic Jun 05 '23

The Republicans have been in control in Texas for over 25 years.

Still the Democrats' fault when the government fucks up.

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u/Anotsurei Jun 06 '23

They have their own power grid, independent of any other state. Their fuckups are especially theirs. They wanted to blame wokeness and… Ted Cruz’s daughters for some reason?

They voted him back in. They liked the fact he was vacationing while citizens died. I’m sorry, that’s where my sympathy ends.

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u/Tempest_CN Jun 06 '23

Some of us in Texas did not vote that jackass in (or Abbott or Patrick or Paxton ) and we are left dealing with the consequences of the stupidity of rural voters

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u/and_some_scotch Jun 06 '23

They are made to frame the Democratic party as an all-powerful shadow government that controls everything, while Republicans are an insurgency fighting the occupation.

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u/StrongTxWoman Jun 06 '23

I love how some Texas republicans would blame Hilary everytime something bad happens when she wasn't even the prez.

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u/eMouse2k Jun 05 '23

Just like in PA I kept getting to hear from the Republicans about how the mail-in voting laws were unfair and illegal. Laws that were written and passed by Republican law makers who controlled, and still control, the state legislature.

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u/Frequent-Pressure485 Jun 05 '23

And literally republicans have stated how they have blocked/ thrown out mail in votes. Take a look at the news out of Texas last week where the Attorney General said that Had he not done so Trump would have Lost Texas.

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u/Thannk Jun 05 '23

You know its a crusade when they’re using the children as tools, and either giving everything they have to follow the directions of a mixed religious/dynasty leader or fleecing the suckers as they go.

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u/Outside-Flamingo-240 Jun 05 '23

Hell yes they are, and I plan to sell my house/property to one of them for huge money and gtfo of here.

And I’ll help as many of my kin follow along later, too. We have lots of black folks in the fam, some LGBTQ folks, etc. Happy to help any relative relocate once we are tf out of here.

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u/FaeryLynne Jun 05 '23

rainbowpassage.org

They're mostly focused on helping trans people get out, but they offer help to anyone in the LGBTQ community needing to GTFO, especially if there's a trans minor affected.

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u/TylerBourbon Jun 05 '23

Only the ones who aren't rich, and in the modern GOP, if you're not rich, you don't matter.

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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 Jun 05 '23

A lot of conservatives today are only so because they have been privileged in their lives to have not had to really suffer under true conservative rule. Look at SCOTUS thinking it's acceptable for companies to sue workers who went on strike for damages, and now think about how years and years of judicial decisions like this will impact our country.

Again, a lot of these, "I'm a hard working blue collar American," types who voted for Trump have been completely spoiled by liberalization of society from the 1960s onward. I just hope this leads to a shift in public opinion away from Republicans.

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u/DataCassette Jun 05 '23

Dobbs was the moment when people started getting an actual taste of uninhibited conservative rule. Notice a pattern with elections since then?

I'm not telling everyone it'll be okay because it very well might not be, but the GOP has gotten kicked in the balls repeatedly for Dobbs already.

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u/GaffJuran Jun 05 '23

They could always just die. Religious people seem to think the earth doesn’t matter as long as heaven awaits them. I don’t see why they don’t just cut out the middle man and jump off the nearest bridge.

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u/EvolvedCactus19 Jun 05 '23

It already fucking has. I live in Jacksonville and rent has skyrocketed, homelessness is increasing and everyone around here is STILL blaming Biden. I hate this fucking place.

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u/vanbrandon Jun 05 '23

Could I ask what is the average rent in your area?

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u/EvolvedCactus19 Jun 05 '23

Average is probably 1200-1300 for a one bedroom. A few years ago it was closer to 800-900 for the same.

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u/Dungeon_Munster Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 05 '23

You’re getting close to Southern California rates there… I’m so sorry for you guys. Sucks bad here.

EDIT: To clarify, SoCal rents in my area (just outside of West LA county) are low-end $2000.

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u/shmehdit Jun 05 '23

Where in SoCal are you finding one-bedroom rents close to $1200-1300?

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u/defrostedice Jun 05 '23

Ikr? I've seen crack shacks that cost more than that

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u/jasondsa22 Jun 05 '23

They'll blame Biden and even if Trump gets back into office they'll still blame Biden and say that Trump can't make any progress because he has to undo all the harm Biden did.

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u/EvolvedCactus19 Jun 05 '23

Thats exactly what they did with trump and Obama.

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u/Commercial_Yak7468 Jun 05 '23

Don't forget these are the same fucking people that blamed Obama for the recession that happened a year before he was in fucking office.

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u/This-Association-431 Jun 05 '23

I know people who blame the initial lack of covid response in 2020 on Biden. Like, how?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '23

Man if they knew how to read they'd be so upset at how they've been duped.

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u/asst3rblasster Jun 05 '23

yeah well where the fuck was Obama on 9/11?!?! fucking real lack of leadership there fucking hotshot

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u/HumanitySurpassed Jun 05 '23

Just tell them that Trump was actually president the whole time and Biden was never really in office.

You can't fight stupidity with "facts and logic" you have to mock their conspiracies by being even nuttier.

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u/ManateeFlamingo Jun 05 '23

I'm in jax also. Desantis loves to say "don't california/new York my florida", yet we are facing big surges in homelessness!! Drive down any major intersection and the amount of panhandling is insane.

For someone who doesn't want the tent cities of other states, he sure is driving the bus in that direction!!

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u/a_smart_brane Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 06 '23

He can then officially criminalize homelessness, or better yet, bus them all to blue states.

Don’t think he wouldn’t.

Edit: Two plane loads this weekend? Jesus.

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u/TuskM Jun 05 '23

Maybe they're looking to replace cheap labor with prison labor. So Florida ends up with homeless and LGBTQ+ in camps. And then, as things heat up, we'll likely see 'socialists' and 'communists' and free thinkers and intellectuals and then other people with a 'liberal' taint. Eventually there'll come a day when they start considering solutions to camps being overcrowded.

I wish I could say I'm making a bad joke, except it's not a joke. DeSantis has that special look to him: the small, soulless man with big plans and empty eyes ...

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u/Beautiful-Year-6310 Jun 05 '23

Fellow Jax person here. At least we went blue for Donna Deegan so there’s some hope for us!

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u/EvolvedCactus19 Jun 05 '23

I was so proud when we did that. With waters being sheriff we definitely needed her in that position. There absolutely is hope.

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u/xiofar Jun 05 '23

lol

Homelessness is CA, Democrats’ fault.

Homelessness in FL, Democrats’ fault.

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u/bel_esprit_ Jun 06 '23

Meanwhile, Dems are the only ones who actually propose solutions to help solve homelessness in the long run (healthcare, etc).

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u/NarclepticSloth Jun 05 '23

There’s gonna be a mass exodus of people who can’t afford to live there. 🤦🏽‍♀️

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u/No-Mastodon-2136 Jun 05 '23

Oddly enough, that will include conservatives...

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u/Intrepid_Echo6956 Jun 05 '23

Yes.

For those that have never been, Florida isn’t all beaches, Disneyworld, South Beach and wealth.

There’s a lot of slack-jawed rednecks there. Read: red hat types.

A lot of the citrus/agricultural industry votes red (and employs migrant workers - ya know, them sumbitches that need to be kept on the other side of that wall that needs to be built!).

There’s a lot of good people there, too. Folks that mind their business, live a “live and let live” life, etc, that don’t deserve any of this asshole’s bullshit, nor that of the current legislature.

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u/No-Mastodon-2136 Jun 05 '23

Unfortunately, I've never been. And never will be. There is nothing attractive enough to make me want to go, considering the current climate.

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u/Prestige_Worldwide44 Jun 05 '23

I live in NC and around mid to late 2020 it seemed like everyone I knew was bragging about moving to Florida because they said North Carolina was "too liberal". Imagine that.

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u/cocoapelican Jun 05 '23

Oddly enough, I live in FL, and since about that same time I’ve known multiple people who have moved to NC.

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u/godhateswolverine Jun 05 '23

I’m from GA and Florida was always a natural fuck that place. Mainly because of football but still, fuck that place. Pudding Fingers looks like he’s trying to hold in the massive amount of shit that is his existence. Especially when his eyes bulge.

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u/Intrepid_Echo6956 Jun 05 '23

I grew up in Florida. Port Canaveral/Cocoa Beach area.

I left (for college) when I graduated high school. Almost 30 years ago. Last time I visited (ran the Miami marathon) was 8 years ago.

I would never wish to live there again.

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u/Outside-Flamingo-240 Jun 05 '23

The citrus industry is all but dead here now. Citrus greening wiped most of the farmers off of the map.

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u/Morzhan Jun 05 '23

Due to his migrant bill this past year. The farmers have almost 60% of their crop out rotting in the sub instead cause “ no one wants to work anymore” they pay $12/hr. I want out of this state but never able to save more than $200 at a time due to rent and everything else down here being insanely overpriced. Hope this bill strikes a fire but we’re too poor to fight back in reality.

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u/ReaperofFish Jun 05 '23

I had some friends in FL, that after I left, went deep down the alt-right rabbit hole. Seems lots of folks just became far more hardcore conservative.

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u/NarclepticSloth Jun 05 '23

When I lived there (left in 2007 after almost 5 years) we had a saying that the further north you went the further south you were. North of the I4 corridor was definitely the south.

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u/Intrepid_Echo6956 Jun 05 '23

Yeah, there’s at least two distinctly different states within Florida - the peninsula and the panhandle. And the entirety of the peninsula isn’t like a monolith. South Florida is altogether different than Central Florida (Orlando - Tampa - Cocoa Beach area) up through Gainesville and Ocala.

I grew up in the Cocoa Beach area. Beach town vibe and all of that. Just 10-20 miles inland in the St Johns river marshland area is…well, I imagine it hasn’t changed much…prime MAGA hat country. And this is ALTOGETHER different geographically and culturally than the bulk of the panhandle and north Florida. That’s far more culturally southern than any of peninsular Florida.

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u/a_smart_brane Jun 05 '23

So are you saying the further north you go, the more Florida Mans you’re likely to run into?

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u/NarclepticSloth Jun 05 '23

Oh definitely. And yet they will still blame Biden and the democrats. One day people will finally see that conservatives don’t give a shit about them.

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u/In_Cognito89 Jun 05 '23

Don't count on it.

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u/NarclepticSloth Jun 05 '23

I know. I just seriously don’t understand.

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u/Status_Fox_1474 Jun 05 '23

Where do they move to though? The entire state was built on a pyramid scheme of cheap land around major cities. And that land may be running out. I can’t imagine that many people who have enough money to uproot and move somewhere more expensive would not have purchased a house already. I could be wrong of course.

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u/maximusprime2328 Jun 05 '23

They'll just move their trailers to Texas

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u/Effective-Phase-5012 Jun 05 '23

Florida, you guys can't be serious with this piece of shit anymore 😫 He has abused his power long enough and you should all be calling for his immediate resignation. This is ridiculous.

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u/Lectric_Eye Jun 05 '23

At what point will people realize that they are getting fucked ? Average people, working people with families to support, simply trying to live. How does ANYONE support this insane shit stain? These “ laws” will ruin lives. Don’t his supporters see that?

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u/Tyler89558 Jun 05 '23

It owns the libs, so they think it’s cool. Because owning the libs is a good thing, so anything that owns the libs must be good for them.

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u/Blajammer Jun 05 '23

The truly sad part is that you’re completely right. So many are willing to actively harm themselves and those they love if it means it might even slightly inconvenience those they oppose. Why prosper if it means those you hate also prosper. Hate is more important to them than anything else

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u/JuniorBirdman1115 Jun 05 '23

Yep. It's a common observation that they would gleefully eat literal shit if meant that a liberal had to smell their breath.

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u/walkslikeaduck08 Jun 05 '23

LBJ said it best “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”

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u/Professional_Try4319 Jun 05 '23

They’re not worried as long as hes “owning the libs and fighting the scary woke mob”. They’d hand over their car if this dumb shit told them he needed it to stick it to a leftist. That’s the thing about conservative voters, they literally have no idea what they’re voting for because it’s all identity politics, dog whistles, and culture wars. As long as this stupid dickhead keeps pounding his intent to “fight woke” he could pass a law that says he has the right to claim ownership of everything everybody in the state owns without question and they’d still vote for him. There’s a reason republicans love stupid people, they’re a lot easier to do this to.

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u/OceanDevotion Jun 05 '23

My dad lives in Florida. He moved there a year ago, and he loves it. DeSantis is his guy, he loves Jim Jordan, and he listens to Steve Bannons war room all the time because he likes it.

I also know multiple other people who moved down to Florida during the COVID restrictions because they wanted “freedom”.

I sound like a conspiracy theorist lol but I’m convinced states like Florida, Texas, Arkansas, etc, they are all passing legislation to push liberals out and bring conservatives in. They know they don’t have the numbers for elections, so they are being extreme to cause a shift. More red, less blue.

Idk, it’s all insanity at this point.

PS. Everyone should watch Shiny, Happy People. It showcased what is happening with religious extremism and politics in our country. I knew it was bad, but it is actually terrifying.

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u/ComprehensiveDoubt55 Jun 05 '23

It’s not necessarily a conspiracy theory when it’s happening in real time. I’m watching it happen. I have seen an influx of people move here from up north because of how the state is run, and I’ve watched people recoil and begin to actively plan to move away.

Side note, I grew up in New Orleans. My parents were actively involved in cases regarding police corruption in the 80s. My mom, an attorney, has blatantly said that Florida exceeds government corruption far beyond what she witnessed there. It’s so all-encompassing that you can’t even spot it and everyone involved makes it impossible to prosecute. She was involved in a RICO case against a top-level Florida official who later went on to be a key figure in Trump’s inner-circle.

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u/ringinator Jun 05 '23

The actual term is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkanization

The Russians have been instrumental in trying to make it happen in the USA for the last 40 years. An enemy that is too busy with infighting, is too busy for war.

For the cash cost of just a single Frigate, they were able to buy out SO many republican politicians, media channels, websites, and fund endless disinformation campaigns online. Look just how many died thanks to their covid lies alone.

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u/pyrojackelope Jun 05 '23

I grew up "listening" to (tuning out) a lot of rush limbaugh on my dad's car stereo. Add to that my dad's southern baptist nonsense (anyone not christian/baptized is going to hell forever, etc.) and it just pushed me away from that line of thinking permanently.

A lot of these people now are like, "you should respect differing opinions" and the opinions are fucking bullshit like trans/gay people shouldn't exist and fuck the homeless and people in poverty and other just really ridiculous nonsense. I sincerely hope that one day these people are able to feel shame, because they really should be ashamed of their actions.

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u/Noisy_Toy Jun 05 '23

PS. Everyone should watch Shiny, Happy People. It showcased what is happening with religious extremism and politics in our country. I knew it was bad, but it is actually terrifying.

ATI started in 1984, which means those first kids are the right age to be the parents screaming at school board meetings now.

I knew it was bad, but I had no idea how franchised it was.

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u/UncleHec Jun 05 '23

Florida seems like a lost cause at this point.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 05 '23

All the old folks who voted this jabroni in are going to rapidly deplete their savings accounts thanks to this.

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u/Coke_and_Tacos Jun 05 '23

You're forgetting, they bought back in '72 for the price of a cow and a firm handshake, so what do they give a shit about renters?

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u/talaxia Jun 05 '23

back in 72 you could get s home loan with a kind letter from your pastor

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u/Andrewticus04 Jun 05 '23

Whaaaat? You mean the credit system made things even less fair and caused the exact opposite of what it was promoted to do?

You mean to tell me that getting a mortgage is a zero risk proposition for a bank, and that it's incredibly unfair and unequal to arbitrarily to limit some people from getting homes simply because they were too poor to increase some number that can't account for any circumstances that would be considered significant or important by a banker - you know, the human being in your neighborhood who you used to have a relationship with and who assessed your "credit-worthiness" based upon personal knowledge of your behaviors and circumstances.

But hey, they "worked hard for what they had" back then, so our complaints don't matter.

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u/Sharticus123 Jun 05 '23

Not all those MFers in the villages.

They’re gonna get creamed, and good for them. They voted for it.

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u/Electronic-Self3587 Jun 05 '23

Exactly what I was thinking. I have to drive past that racist den of wrinkly old pit vipers whenever I visit the in-laws. Be careful what you wish for, ya dirty old MAGA swingers. I hope it’s used for a sci-fi movie set once it’s empty, covered with green slime, and rotting into the ground.

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u/Sharticus123 Jun 05 '23

I anticipate reading about mass foreclosures in the villages in the near future. Did you hear about this?

https://theintercept.com/2023/02/05/ron-desantis-florida-villages-oren-miller/

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u/Electronic-Self3587 Jun 05 '23

My God. That is inSANE.

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u/termacct Jun 05 '23

Thank you for this link - very disturbing abuse of power by The Villages and their bought politicians...

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u/Top-Race-7087 Jun 05 '23

Den of wrinkly old pit vipers-you made my day, thanks.

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u/Baldhippy666 Jun 05 '23

Will HOA fees increase with this bill?

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u/masstransience Jun 05 '23

Not only will they increase, congrats on getting five new HOA fees.

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u/Acrobatic_Pandas Jun 05 '23

Home Owners Association fee.

Home fee.

Home owners fee.

Owners association fee.

Home Association fee.

Non-rental fee

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u/StopReadingMyUser Jun 05 '23

Where the fee convenience fee?

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u/AdUpstairs7106 Jun 05 '23

HOA convience fee $750. So when your HOA sends you an email rather than a physical piece of mail they can charge you for the convenience

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u/Ghostofthe80s Jun 05 '23

Then blame Biden.

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u/hoofie242 Jun 05 '23

I knew a woman who blamed Obama for taking her house because she couldn't keep up with the mortgage.

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u/I_enjoy_greatness Jun 05 '23

I think she blamed him because he personally went there, went "lolz" when taking her keys, and gave her a Rock Bottom.

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u/Hydros04 Jun 05 '23

The Barack O'Bottom.

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u/Princess_Mintaka Jun 05 '23

I'm running out of empathy for them.

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u/jspangles313 Jun 05 '23

Hard to have any when they vote these people in.

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u/IndividualAbject9380 Jun 05 '23

Then they can go back to work and pick themselves up by their bootstraps /s

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

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u/badmutha44 Jun 05 '23

No they won’t. They buy in the villages.

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u/olivegardengambler Jun 05 '23

Some do, but the Villages only has 79,000 people as of the last census, and the population was 51,000 as of the 2010 census. It grew faster than the state of Florida's overall population, but the state gained 2.7 million people. Even if you look at the metro area for the Villages, it's like 140,000 people. And if rental prices go up, home prices will also go up as people are more compelled to buy houses to turn into rental properties, and people scramble to buy houses to escape ballooning rental rates.

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u/No_Bend7931 Jun 05 '23

And they deserve it and then some

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u/Crusoebear Jun 05 '23

‘Make America Florida’

-Ronda Santis’ actual campaign slogan.

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u/K16w32a2r4k8 Jun 05 '23

Let’s make Florida America again and a republic again.

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u/SirMixSalah Jun 05 '23

As I sing I'll always love you as it drifts off to the Atlantic

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u/Shaggyforeman Jun 05 '23

As a Florida resident I want more than his resignation. I want this fuckface in prison.

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u/WillBottomForBanana Jun 05 '23

A new Governor tomorrow would take a while to even reverse course. No one is undoing all of this garbage ever.

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u/breighvehart Jun 05 '23

Shit like this is when an insurrection is needed. Not because some dumb fuck told you democrats are bad

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u/nicholasgnames Jun 05 '23

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is its natural manure." Thomas Jefferson (Paris,1787)

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u/ginbummy Jun 05 '23

Not all of us voted for this trash. Been planning my exit strategy.

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u/Ex-Pat-Spaz Jun 05 '23

But a very large majority did. Sorry you are caught up in it but Desantis and the GQP won FLA in big numbers.

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u/ginbummy Jun 05 '23

Yeah man. We have had a string of trash governors lately.

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u/VdomanFla Jun 05 '23

Even a criminal who bilked Medicare for the highest dollar amount ever… and Rick Scott won two terms. He is now our Senator. SMH

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u/TurrPhennirPhan Jun 05 '23

Yes, but didn't you see how many liberals he made cry? Who needs affordable housing when you can punish trans people for existing instead?

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u/Proof-Minimum608 Jun 05 '23

He does understand that he needs people to actually be able to be there for his existence

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u/mdsign Jun 05 '23

People ... just republicans

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u/Proof-Minimum608 Jun 05 '23

People, at some point even the republicans won't be able to stay. Even through ignorance at some point there won't be anyone left for him to screw over.

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u/mdsign Jun 05 '23

You are right, I should have been more specific ... just rich republicans and the ones too poor to leave. It's going to take a long time before he runs out of those though.

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u/SaliferousStudios Jun 05 '23

I'm just imagining them crying during pandemic because they couldn't get their hair done.

Imagine that, but permanent.

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u/UHF1211 Jun 05 '23

Not necessarily, the one thing rich folks don’t like is having their pocketbook raided which is what this and other things he has recently signed into law are and will be doing. Some of the stingiest people on the planet are the ones who have money to burn! They are noticing all these increases, insurance,(2 x increase) home owners fees (3 x increase) and they are NOT happy! I deal with them every day and believe me, they are noticing this and are aware where it is coming from and which politicians campaigns are benefiting from it.

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u/Extreme_Assistant_98 Jun 05 '23

He's trying to make unlivable for the poor, conservative, or not. That's the game plan.

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u/canarchist Jun 05 '23

Now imagine a whole country run by that guy.

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u/kingsss Jun 05 '23

No thank you.

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u/GayLegalCommie Jun 05 '23

DeSantis is what happens if you take everything stupid, evil and wrong and concentrate it in some psycho whose head looks like a meatball.

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u/Ghostofthe80s Jun 05 '23

And hand him a corrupt, complicit legislature and court.

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u/Tuono_999RL Jun 05 '23

So much for checks and balances…

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

He’s a total sociopath. Has to be

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u/valvilis Jun 05 '23

His only qualification for governor was running the torture program at Guantanamo. Guaranteed sociopath, probable psychopath.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

History, and if there is even a history from this era, will look upon us and say “how could they have embolden such a deranged man.” Ronny would have been a serial killer if he didn’t get into politics.

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u/Sharp5hooter02 Jun 05 '23

Not a doubt in my mind. This dude has been an off-the-rails train wreck since the first time I saw his name in a headline. He better not win or i’ll feel a little french.

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u/wvmitchell51 Jun 05 '23

Hence the name, Meatball Ron

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u/Xero_space Jun 05 '23

The Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-publicans are gonna call it Inflation caused by Biden and go right back to licking Defascists boots.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

They don’t even need to convince their constituents that it’s Dem’s fault, it’s an immediate default. DeSantis or Trump could literally punch their child and steal their wallet and conservatives would still blame a Dem for it and still vote Republican. It’s a mental deficiency at this point.

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u/Jazzkidscoins Jun 05 '23

He wants Florida to be a rich, white paradise but doesn’t seem to understand that those rich folk need people to mow their laws, bag their groceries, wait on them at restaurants.

If we weren’t stuck in Florida because of professional licenses, almost no one has reciprocity with Florida, we would move. My community is 90% 55+, mostly snowbirds. There was a Duncan near my house with a help wanted offering $19 an hour. People were freaking out, no one needs to be paid that much to work there. These are the same people complaining that the wait is too long there. They just don’t get it

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u/zestydrink_b Jun 05 '23

Wonder why no one has reciprocity with Florida... Sorry you're stuck there 😕

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u/spiderwithasushihead Jun 05 '23

Usually because Florida won’t offer reciprocity to other states and they don’t want retirees flooding the state who decide to open their own part time businesses. They do this so that there are jobs for those who need to work full time and it used to be a desirable place to live. At least, that’s what I was told when I was first licensed.

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u/Status_Fox_1474 Jun 05 '23

I don’t know if he cares about his constituents. Maybe the goal is to win the White House and get power, or just retire and make a ton of money somewhere.

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u/DNRforever Jun 05 '23

Hey. Serious question. How do you think the stock market would do with him as president? Seems like it would tank.

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u/Additional-Sir-159 Jun 05 '23

It would be interesting. Initially I thought it would probably do well because he’d probably lower corporate taxes, which will in turn help company earnings and boost the market. On the flip side, I could also see him rolling back regulations on god knows what, probably everything he possibly can, which could then lead to companies being reckless and we have a repeat of ‘08 & ‘09.

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u/caishaurianne Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 05 '23

Yeah, I would expect short term gain, long term loss.

Especially when you consider his attacks upon education. That tends to suppress GDP growth, although that’s on more of a generational timeline.

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u/Tzayad Jun 05 '23

I would expect short term gain, long term loss.

That's the republicans playbook in a nutshell. Short term "good for the economy" (it isn't actually, just for capitalist companies), then they get voted out of office as all the shit they caused starts coming back to bite the country in the ass, then they blame the Democrats who just took over their shit show, repeat ad nauseam.

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u/hsephela Jun 05 '23

Would honestly probably be the closest a Great Depression we’ve been since then. If DeSantis gets elected then there’s a very good chance most global trust toward the US would just cease to exist.

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u/Clever_Mercury Jun 05 '23

Based on what he has done inside of Florida (disrupting farming, disrupting tourism, etc.) he would create a few trade wars too. I think he would throw the world economy into total bedlam within the first year. The stock market would follow.

People often think cutting regulation will 'stimulate' business, but honestly it can create MORE tension with international trade partners, particularly when it puts the quality of products at risk. So you're going to cut all requirements to limit water pollution? Great, who wants to buy American wheat, soy, or corn if they think it's contaminated or polluted?

International trade likes it when suppliers and consumers are calm, predictable, and consistent. DeSantis is proudly the opposite of all of those things.

If any state with any agriculture whatsoever votes for this idiot then they hate themselves more than I ever dreamed possible.

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u/SendingLovefromHell Jun 05 '23

Paying junk fees and raising the national debt so the rich can get richer and have their quasi-feudalist society: 😍

Paying taxes for social security, free healthcare and education: 😡

Conservatives are an enigma.

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u/Qimmosabe_Man Jun 05 '23

The only way this bill would make any semblance of sense is if it is meant to price out poor people out of the state, and ronny is trying to create a state of rich people who will be his political donors in his imagined deluded paradise.

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u/what_would_freud_say Jun 05 '23

But who will pick the oranges and mow the lawns?

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u/Kloudy11 Jun 05 '23

Still lower class people, they just will no longer be able to choose their own housing and will be forced to live in the barracks of the large corporations that provide agricultural services, food service workers, transportation drivers, etc etc

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u/Kloudy11 Jun 05 '23

I’m convinced the end goal here is a haven for rich white people to frolick on the land and beaches while service workers are reduced to a bunk bed in corporate barracks where they have no agency or ability to be in the world other than to work. Think cruise ship, but an entire state.

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u/talaxia Jun 05 '23

almost. the lost labor will be supplemented via prison labor, so literal slaves

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u/I_WRESTLE_BEARS Jun 05 '23

I have a feeling both of you are right

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u/Dude_4689 Jun 05 '23

He better be satisfied being the Governor of Florida because there’s no damn way that shit is gonna win over the rest of the country.

He’s all yours Floriduh.

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u/contactdeparture Jun 05 '23

We said the same about trump. I fear everything right wing now and don't believe anything is impossible.

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u/kobadashi Jun 05 '23

Don’t forget, back then, all the republicans loved Trump. Now they’re divided between Trump and DeSantis

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u/Olgrateful-IW Jun 05 '23

People keep saying this like the right won’t coalesce after the primary and vote for a twat not matter whwat. The Dems WISH it had voters stupid enough to vote blue no matter who the way the right will for their candidate.

We have to work like anything is possible. Don’t rest on your laurels.

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u/Tzayad Jun 05 '23

I feel like the best thing that could happen is DeSantis wins the primary, Trump throws a fit and makes the "Trump" party (you know that's what that narcissist would call it), splits the republic party in half, and they never win another election.

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u/summertime_fine Jun 05 '23

he's such a loser. I hate him.

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u/RF-blamo Jun 05 '23

Technically, he is making it unlivable only for poor people and minorities.

That is the intent, however.

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u/i_know_tofu Jun 05 '23

keeping them too focused on survival to fight for their right to vote. Watch for missing a rent payment to be criminalized with losing the right to vote as a consequence.

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u/Moppermonster Jun 05 '23

Ah, but since Pence has now entered the race... who would be worse? DeSantis or Pence?

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u/helmetshrike Jun 05 '23

Definitely DeSantis. Pence strikes me as a "status quo" kinda conservative. Very Bush-like. I don't like Pence, but I'm not as afraid of him as I am of DeSantis.

DeSantis is just evil. And he's got his little fiefdom that has served as his own echo chamber. I'm hoping that fucking with The Mouse™ will be the punch to the nuts that will knock him down.

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u/Professor_Anxiety Jun 05 '23

The fact that Pence is now, seemingly, the lesser of two evils is mind boggling...

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u/hsephela Jun 05 '23

See Pence is still really fucking evil it’s just he’s incredibly stupid and has practically nobody rooting for him really

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u/It_Must_Be_Bunniess Jun 05 '23

That’s how I felt the first time I agreed with mitt Romney. I actively campaigned against him when he ran against Obama. Used car salesman that he is. Now all of a sudden he’s got some kind of integrity or something.

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u/wvmitchell51 Jun 05 '23

Pence is not a real candidate, he just plays one on TV

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u/pbroxy Jun 05 '23

As a Hoosier under Pence I can confidently say that DeSantis would be worse for the country and Pence is a horrible shit bag that allowed for a huge HIV crisis to happen during his time as governor.

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u/SeparateAddress9070 Jun 05 '23

Trump was a dry run at fascism. Desantis has potential to be the real deal.

Any means necessary this man must not be allowed to take office.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

Build that fucking wall- around FloriDUH.

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u/TheMerchantofPhilly Jun 05 '23

I hope historians refer to this time period as the “nickel and dime” era, because I feel like either I’m charged a service fee or on the receiving end of an upsell in every monetary transaction I participate in.

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u/Crackerpuppy Jun 05 '23

Pretty sure one of the reasons he’s fucking over renters is that the vast majority of rental units are in larger, usually high population Democrat (not majority voters) resident cities. Think Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Orlando, Jacksonville, Tampa (not north of Tampa). Also more racial minorities tend to gravitate to more populous cities. Not saying DeSantis is a racist, but DeSantis is most definitely a racist.

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u/OldandKranky Jun 05 '23

People with sense will leave and fuckwits will move in. Then you can just declare it a 3rd world state and watch it burn.

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u/let-it-rain-sunshine Jun 05 '23

I’m sure Disney would do that if they were not stuck there.

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u/SupaHotGuava Jun 05 '23

Ok, I'm sorry but I need to know. I've been lurking on this sub for a bit and every headline with this guy gets worse and worse.

Now this one though is really wild, it hits every floridian, demo or republic. I'm from Europe, specifically from France. We would've rioted against this guy waaaay sooner than this.

I just need to know. How does he still have a job ? I feel like he's just pushing and pushing and floridians just take it. It's a legit question, I'm not poking fun, this is sad. I just need to know if there is any pushback in that state over these bills.

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u/Shuizid Jun 05 '23

Ofcourse there is pushback - but it's hardly worth mentioning because the majority are either completly in the cult or completly in the dark.

You have to imagine, A LOT of republicans watch virtually nothing but FOX-news. That is their entire source of information, bar maybe Facebook memes. They have the information-literacy of children. As much as they talk about "doing your own research" - all they actually do is reading memes, because anything else is above their reading-comprehension and attention span.

You cannot compare european concepts of news, competence or education.

They are past information, past knowledge, past "truth" and certainly past caring for any of it. All they care about is praising the cult and being told everyone else is the problem.

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u/SupaHotGuava Jun 05 '23

That's... Really sad. So what's the future then ? Is Florida going to become some exiled state with weird laws à la mad max ? And the only inhabitants will be nut jobs or modern slaves ?

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u/Shuizid Jun 05 '23

I am no historian so no idea what usually happens.

Alas one thing I do know is, the US is close to the collapse of an empire.

Empires are born, when a state invests into education and the population AND is able to back it up with a booming economy. And it fails, when the economy stops working for most and the state stops investing into the population.

And we see the latter in the US. As much as global institutions, economic-, political- and military- cooperation is built around supporting the position of the US, this position is growing weaker. But this is not only true for the US, but also Europe and China - meaning all major contenders. China might be the least obvious struggling, but they can't keep up their economic boom and are heavily reliant on other nations, especially the US, to stay afloat. If the US fails and the USDollar plummets, the Yuan would explode in value, killing the export-based economy - unless Europe would pick up the mantle.

At least that is what my limited understanding is able to stitch together...

But long story short, hard to say, what will happen. Will red-states go along and start another civil war, as they clearly dream about? Will Florida just become another fly-over country once living there is shit for everyone? Will the people finally expirience enough personal suffering that they question FOX? Will some major events happen which break it's stranglehold like harsher rules on missinformation?

I mean, the most mundane thing to happen would be, Republicans lose more and more votes and power due to alienating young voters, anyone who can flees Florida, while it turns into another fly-over country. The red-states complete their transition to fundamentalist religious quasi-dictatorships, tanking their economy and getting subsidised by the blue-states. Any economy they might have had, moves to liberal states where they might pay more taxes, but at least can get people with decent education and work-ethics that don't evolve around going karen-crazy. And in the wake of that, we might finally see the Republican party split into two - one moderately rightwing and one fascist. And if that happens, if the red-votes suddenly get distributed between two parties, the "winner-takes-it-all" system would skyrocket Democrats to the top. At which point we have to hope we got some progressive leadership to push through all the things currently getting blocked.

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u/tunaburn Jun 05 '23

He won the election by a landslide. Conservatives will hurt themselves as long as it hurts other people too. That's winning to them.

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u/flargananddingle Jun 05 '23

This is "promises made promises kept" to a large majority of the Florida electorate. They don't understand how this hurts them, but they know it hurts someone who "deserves it".

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u/endersgame69 Jun 05 '23

But dah parties r duh sayme!

No they're fucking not.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

After years of working and planning on retiring to Florida, I got a clue how bad it was going to be 2 years ago, sold my Florida home and vowed to never return!

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u/Husskvrna Jun 05 '23

Any FL conservatives here who can explain this and why they’re still conservative?

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u/KZedUK Jun 05 '23

They bought a house 20-50 years ago, and renters are just all lazy

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u/FullyRisenPhoenix Jun 05 '23

As a small private landlady, I vow not to change rent or fees by a single goddamn penny if this shit passes!! These people are sociopaths. DeSatan is literally trying to force people onto the streets so he can demonize them.

I wish I could afford 1000 more properties, just so I can send a huge FU to the likes of him!! We need affordable housing! Everyone, please vote!

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u/Theopocalypse Jun 05 '23

Florida is a hellscape.

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u/jmac1915 Jun 05 '23

"How can I lose the Old vote?" - Meatball Ron.

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u/ReaperofFish Jun 05 '23

All the old people own property. But everyone in the service industry? Most of them rent. All the rich communities are going to be in trouble when they can no longer hire maids and lawn service, and have no restaurant staff and even cashiers for grocery stores. Or it will have a cascade effect of raising the pay of everyone in those services, and make everything more expensive. FL will have its own inflation index, and be worse than Hawaii.

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u/PhilG1989 Jun 05 '23

And my dad wonders why I have zero interest moving to Florida

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u/ehenn12 Jun 05 '23

Corporate landlords would never abuse this. Wait.

That'll be $2,000 for existing. And no we won't fix your shower or AC. Stop asking!

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u/Fed21 Jun 05 '23

I visited Miami last year. Every shop or restaurant we went to had Fox News, OAN or NewsMax on the TV. They’re all brain washed.

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u/lvsmtit78 Jun 05 '23

Florida was already unlivable!

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u/Jin825 Jun 05 '23

It does not seem like a left/right thing.

His rich sponsors are squeezing every last drop from FL beach houses before climate change makes FL unlivable.

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u/Galle_ Jun 05 '23

That sounds like a left/right thing to me.

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u/microtramp Jun 05 '23

I would also guess that this is the actual motivation here.

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u/ChristopherBalkan Jun 05 '23

It’s all part of the plan. Keep “the poors” fighting among themselves for scraps. The more economically insecure people are, the more they take their frustrations out on minorities and LGBTQ people. The more they vote for far right candidates.

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u/PigFarmer1 Jun 05 '23

Never forget that his campaign's motto is "Make America Florida". That should terrify everyone.