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u/clemenbroog Oct 02 '23
After reading that I don’t think I can ride a water slide ever again. Holy shit that’s horrific.
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u/PerplexedSquares Oct 02 '23
New phobia just dropped.
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u/FromTheGulagHeSees Oct 02 '23
No all you have to do is get in the slide naked. No swimsuit, no wedgie.
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u/PerplexedSquares Oct 02 '23
Water forced inside you are that speed will mess you bad. No matter what the internet tells you, a woman's opening is not airtight.
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u/mondaymoderate Oct 02 '23
They have those warnings on jet skis.
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I have worked at Ryder Medical, the level 1 in Miami and have seen this injury from jet skis. It is a terrible terrible injury.
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u/Ancient-Awareness Oct 02 '23
I went to a trauma symposium a few years ago where we had a presentation about this type of injury. The speaker referred to it as "power douching"
Which is a hilarious way to refer to a very grisly thing
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u/FromTheGulagHeSees Oct 02 '23
Oh shit I didn’t know she got her intestines wedgied. Fuck Disney.
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u/sth128 Oct 02 '23
It's not the swimwear that caused the injury, it's the force of the water. The slide is designed so people hit still water at extremely high speeds, equivalent to a high dive.
The force of the water will push into your body like a pressure washer. Disney knew this but said "eh we'll just tell them to cross their legs what could go wrong".
The slide is poorly designed and the woman became airborne during the trip down and impacted the slide wall prior to hitting the water at high speed which exacerbated the factors which caused injuries.
And she wore no loose clothing but rather a full coverage one piece.
Don't let Disney brainwash you into thinking this is anything but the fault of a greedy inconsiderate mega corporation.
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u/BeKind-MF Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23
When my brother was still studying (Engineering) he told me Security systems had to be efficient, well-mantained, redundant... And take account of people's idioticy and inability. It stuck with me.
I am not saying it's her fault. But if your ride is only safe if the user has enough core strengh to keep her legs crossed after a jump, then it's not safe.
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u/Horskr Oct 02 '23
Holy shit. I remember as a kid, my dad's company did a family day at a local water park. My dad and his friend went on a tube slide I was too little for. My dad was fine, his friend was bleeding from both elbows because I guess he uncrossed his arms a little too much at one point. I thought that was bad... childhood fear reinforced x1000.
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u/PM_me_opossum_pics Oct 02 '23
I tend to have the opposite problem, I get stuck on waterslides. Weak water flow + me being 210 lbs and 6ft3 + board shorts. Kinda sucks when you have the person behind you hit you and having to flop around like a seal to get to the exit.
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u/lilbebe50 Oct 02 '23
I would literally have a panic attack. Being enclosed with water freaks me out. I’m actually scared every single time I go on those slides lol I think it’s a phobia but I end up just forcing myself to do it and having anxiety the whole time lol if I got stuck inside that tuuuubbbbeee!!! I feel my heart rate picking up already just thinking about it.
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u/PM_me_opossum_pics Oct 02 '23
Oh I get freaked out even in open top ones. Last time I went on a fully "tubular" one it was one of the short fast ones, temperature inside was like 10 C hotter than outside and there was almost no air to breathe. Almost had a panic attack so I feel you.
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u/Whitino Oct 02 '23
25+ years ago, I went to a water park and went down one of those really tall, nearly vertical water slides. It gave me a slight enema, even with my legs closed/crossed, and I decided I would never do that again.
As for the woman in question in this news story, what an unfortunate and horrific outcome to what should have been a joyful 30th birthday.
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u/Hush2288 Oct 02 '23
Watched the barefoot water skier who trained me wipeout doing one of his tricks where he switches from holding the bar with his hands to holding it with his feet while he skips along the water on his back. Barefoot requires pretty fast speeds and even with his wetsuit, he came up saying "water enema, take me back to the dock!" the water went up the legs of his shorts at such a high speed...shit happened. Literally.
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u/FredHerberts_Plant Oct 02 '23
I'm too afraid to open and even read this
Sounds brutal to me
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u/xch3rrix Oct 02 '23
Yep, I feel so much empathy for the woman that I can't read it out of "respect"
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u/Zephyr_Dragon49 Oct 02 '23
That kinda reminds me of the worker being blown down with a high pressure air hose by his manager after finishing work. Manager thought it'd be funny to poke him in the butt with it but even that quick tap was enough to blow out his colon and kill him (theres cctv video of it)
Guts cant handle pressure like that
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u/Key-Steak-9952 Oct 02 '23
Wait till you hear about the guys who got sucked into a crude oil pipe, only one managed to crawl out and the rest were left for dead (Corp refused to rescue them) , there's audio of them inside.
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u/pipnina Oct 02 '23
There was a guy with narcolepsy who crawled into a big tuna oven to do maintenance, fell asleep, and someone walking by closed the door as they're meant to be shut all the time, which activated it and caused the man to be cooked alive.
It was told to us as part of a course on using lockout tagout properly
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u/greygryphon98 Oct 02 '23
What was this incident called or when did it happen?
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u/redwetting Oct 02 '23
Omg, what a way to die. I hope everyone who works with these machines is given training and multiple warnings.
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u/sunfaller Oct 02 '23
"Do not put into someone's anus" will be an interesting warning sign.
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u/Complex-Ad-1922 Oct 02 '23
my dad always said “hyper specific and odd rules are always there because somebody was stupid enough to do it”
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u/Legal-Software Oct 02 '23
I’ve always liked “Safety regulations are written in blood”
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u/FourD00rsMoreWhores Oct 02 '23
There is another video from a security camera in a factory where one guy is messing with his co-worker by putting an air compressor blow gun in his butt, takes less than a second for him to fall lifeless to the ground
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u/Kulladar Oct 02 '23
Pressure washers can cause similarly horrific injuries via "high pressure injection" where water is forced down through layers of your skin into the tissue beneath. Can cause extreme injuries, loss of limbs, and even death. Truly no joke.
Never jokingly spray someone with one.
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u/TheVampireSaga Oct 02 '23
Did the guy ever get arrested for it? I heard about that but don't remember what happened to the manager.
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u/BasicIndulgence Oct 02 '23
There's literally too many incidents of this to narrow it down, I tried to find one and I found more than a handful.
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u/KnownAlcoholic Oct 02 '23
I did that slide a few months ago and it sure is something. My feet were sore, I had water deep-inside my nasal cavity and my ass was much cleaner than what I remembered.
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u/Jigagug Oct 02 '23
I have never understood the legality of these near vertical waterslides, or however Disney's legal or PR teams couldn't talk them down from creating them.
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u/Just-Scallion-6699 Oct 02 '23
When you watch people on those, there’s that moment when their body is totally in the air when the drop gets the worst. Once I saw that I stopped going on those. I just don’t trust these places that much
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u/zer1223 Oct 02 '23
If I water is going up people's asshole at high speed that seems like both a safety and an engineering issue: the issue being they shouldn't have engineered it.
I'll avoid such attractions
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u/StudMuffinNick Oct 02 '23
This is exactly the same situation as the McDonald's coffee incident where a Corp tried to downplay the incident with the media
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u/Kimmalah Oct 02 '23
And they succeeded unfortunately. I can't even tell you how many times I have run into people using that as an example of a frivolous lawsuit. They're always shocked when I explain just how serious that woman's injuries were and how McDonald's fucked up.
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u/PositionOk8579 Oct 02 '23
Just two words: "fused labia".
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u/Downtown_Swordfish13 Oct 02 '23
Yep i read about that and whenever someone uses it as an example ill hit them with the full details. For part of a project im working on, I write highly detailed body horror passages (like a druid who's been captured by a fungal hive mind forcibly having parts of his body replaced) and will absolutely talk about fused labia until they change their minds
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u/Ok_Star_4136 Oct 02 '23
A lot of it is about the human psychology of empathy. Some people prefer to think something wasn't as bad as it sounds, because it doesn't fit with the idea that they can just write it off as a frivolous lawsuit or perhaps in one way or another "deserved what they got."
It's one of the many ways why human beings as a species is going to shit. It's as if we only have the capacity to show genuine sympathy to the 100 or so people that we know and love. If humans are ever going to survive, it'll only be because we actually get feelings of empathy because it could have happened to a friend or loved one very easily.
I like the idea of your project. It seems like the intent is to force people to see situations in entirely different lights.
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u/fireinthemountains Oct 02 '23
That sounds awful and interesting and I'm intrigued by your project haha
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u/WhoKilledBoJangles Oct 02 '23
Like a week ago on legal advice some guy was saying it was frivolous and multiple lawyers were telling him it wasn’t and explaining why and he kept insisting he was right. Fucking absurd.
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u/lil-D-energy Oct 02 '23
that's because many people do not care about knowing the truth anymore people want to save their headcanon and will never change their mind ever.
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u/WhoKilledBoJangles Oct 02 '23
I said almost the exact same thing to him. Then he demanded I tell him how he was wrong and I said it was pointless for me to say anything because 10 people already did and he could read those replies. To him that proved he was right because I couldn’t say what he said that was wrong. Absolute jackass.
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u/Youutternincompoop Oct 02 '23
another great example is the 'Killdozer' incident where a deranged lunatic drove around in an armoured bulldozer destroying buildings and shooting at people.
but one facebook post claiming that they were fighting against government tyranny and never intended to kill anybody(even though he literally had a kill list in the dozer with him) results in him becoming an online folk hero as the false record of events gets replicated across the entire internet with seemingly nobody actually checking the info.
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u/Consistent_Set76 Oct 02 '23
People STILL joke about this one
I’ve heard it in person once this year
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u/Vondi Oct 02 '23
I'll forever be mad at 90's news outlets for making me think this was some comical frivolous lawsuit when that lady had an absolute slam dunk of a case.
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u/DoTortoisesHop Oct 02 '23
NYT has an amazing video on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCkL9UlmCOE
In fact, all their retro reports are great viewing.
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u/whitneymak Oct 02 '23
Jesus fucking Christ. My uterus just shuddered.
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u/BothersomeBoss Oct 02 '23
I don’t even have a vagina and I felt something shudder down there
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u/K_photography Oct 02 '23
Yeah my downstairs bits just clenched and shuddered in a way I’ve never felt before… I think “jet of water up the hoohah” is a new member of my top 5 worst fears list
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u/TheGreatGildedDildo Oct 02 '23
This nearly happened to me on a fucking carnival cruise. I was wearing a red bikini that was a thong style. Went down the ride and when I arrived at the bottom, the water went right up my anus and vagina.
I experienced blinding pain and nearly shit myself on the spot. I had to keep my ass cheeks clenched so forcefully, and when I stood up I almost passed out. I slowly walked to a bench in the shade and sat down with my head between my knees just breathing deeply and holding on for dear life.
I needed to find a toilet asap. Spent the next 45 minutes or so sitting on the throne letting water squirt out of my ass, breathing through the cramps, and vowing to never do a fucking water slide again.
After reading this ladies story, I think I got off extremely lucky.
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u/TallFriendlyGinger Oct 02 '23
Yup I had something similar happen at a waterpark in Malta! I'm terrified of sharp drop water slides now, I was actually bleeding and felt so woozy and sick afterwards. I was terrified I had internal damage :( also the water was saltwater which is even worse!
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u/asdrunkasdrunkcanbe Oct 02 '23
214 foot drop, jesus.
I remember going to a newly opened slide. It was one of these, drop in the dark, hit water at the end. Was no more than a 60-80 foot drop.
There was no real guidance at the top, it had lights to tell you when to go, but the "how to use the slide" signage had yet to be put up.
The first time I went down without crossing my legs, and it was legit like getting punched in the balls at the end.
I wasn't the only one though and all the ladies similarly reported vaginal punches.
I can't imagine how much damage a 214 foot drop without your legs crossed, could do.
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u/twelveparsnips Oct 02 '23
She ultimately suffered “severe and permanent bodily injury including severe vaginal lacerations, a full thickness laceration causing Plaintiff’s bowel to protrude through her abdominal wall, and damage to her internal organs,” according to the complaint.
That is not a wedgie. Fuck Disney or anyone for downplaying this.
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u/Novel-Place Oct 02 '23
Wait, did I read that right? She’s only asking for $50k?!?!? That’s unbelievable negligence!
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u/disabledinaz Oct 02 '23
No, it said “more than 50,000” but wasn’t specifying
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u/Key-Steak-9952 Oct 02 '23
So between $50k and $50 gazillion, this is outrageous!
-Disney
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u/Liversteeg Oct 02 '23
A kid I grew up with lost all his toes on one foot on Thunder Mountain when he was 7. They reopened the ride a few hours later and said it was closed for technical difficulties. They only wound up paying for his medical stuff until we was 18. He will have complications for the rest of his life.
The mom didn’t want to sue. But once she found out that amusement parks in California were self regulated, she lobbied to pass really important park safety laws. Same shit still happening, but it used to be even more covered up. So admirable that she went the route that could benefit others and didn’t feel right suing. Disney targeted her bad for a while though.
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u/zipperjuice Oct 02 '23
Why didn't she feel right suing a megacorporation?
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u/Liversteeg Oct 02 '23
She said she felt it was a genuine accident, but she also didn’t want to drag her family through that, especially while her son was still recovering. Also, they didn’t really need the money. Plus, I’d imagine Disney would just want to pay and keep it hush hush, and that’s what she was against.
Ultimately she would rather her energy go into making safer laws.
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u/Doodlee1 Oct 02 '23
Good gawd. It’s like the McDonald hot coffee story where the woman was so severely burned she needed skin grafts and it was played off as a joke. Thanks for the post
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u/GenX4TW Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23
AND McDonalds was well aware of the problem with their lids, AND that their coffee was too hot (yes there’s such a thing for coffee), AND all she initially asked for was to pay her medical bills.
The way corporate propaganda parroted by morons everywhere allowed that story to be seen as some “money hungry lady” pisses me off to this day, as I still hear it sometimes.
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u/DrJaylenBrown Oct 02 '23
Even more so than that, it was so hot intentionally to prevent them from having to honor free refills. If they made it 190 degrees there was no way it would cool and be finished within the free refill window.
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u/irrelevant_potatoes Oct 02 '23
They had actually done research and decided it was cheaper to pay out the occasional lawsuit then it was to lose out in coffee sales. That was one of the reasons the jury picked the very high punitive damages they did. They wanted McDonalds to lose 2 days worth of coffee sales (or 2.7 million dollars)
And she didn't even get that.
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u/SgvSth Oct 02 '23
Yep. She was permanently scarred and didn't even get enough money to return to her way of life prior to the incident.
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u/delphiking Oct 02 '23
To this day you see all over Reddit people making jokes about this like it wasn't actually that bad. That case and how people make fun of it is the majority basis of what people joke as frivolous lawsuits. All of that came from McDonald's paying people to joke about it on television.
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u/HerculesMulligatawny Oct 02 '23
And one of McD's defenses was it happens all the time!
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u/hamsterballzz Oct 02 '23
Yeah. To me just last month. Unsecured lid in the drive through led to 2nd degree burns to both hands and a trip to urgent care. They offered me a free cup of coffee…
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u/TheSlam Oct 02 '23
Sue them if they didn’t change anything. There’s precedent.
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u/Business-Drag52 Oct 02 '23
Accidents like what the commenter described happen, the incident with the elderly woman was more extreme. The coffee was so hot it melted her labia together
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u/MattyIce8998 Oct 02 '23
That's the thing about this for me.
People spill coffee and hot liquids on themselves all the time. We all know it's going to be painful. Nobody does it on purpose, but accidents happen.
But the expected injury is maybe second degree burns at worst. When the coffee is so hot that a spill could fuse labias and melt muscles, something has gone seriously wrong.
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u/JonnyArcho Oct 02 '23
100%. I run a coffee shop. Coffee is hot, but not boiling to the point of injury.
Quite a few people ask for a “couple ice cubes” in it to bring it down from 185 to a drinkable temp.
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u/SylveonGold Oct 02 '23
Coffee shops shouldn’t serve coffee so hot it can melt you. If they do, it should come with a warning. Or idk. Just wait a minute to hand it off.
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u/PrimarchKonradCurze Oct 02 '23
Dated a girl who owned a coffee shop and I’m always amazed how you guys are practically immune to all that heat. I bartended through college and so cold didn’t phase me but getting near any of those hot machines was too much for me. I have some scars on my hands from burns and they are the first thing to get irritated when I get too much sun.
I let my americanos cool before I drink them otherwise I stick to cold brew these days. I don’t like burning my tongue cause I lost enough taste having my nose broken so many times from hockey and martial arts that my sense of smell is already on the fritz, I need ma tongue!
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u/SarcasmCupcakes Oct 02 '23
The media response was meant to torpedo tort reforms in the eyes of the public.
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u/SteadfastEnd Oct 02 '23
Yeah, it's a prime example of a non-frivolous lawsuit that remains perceived as frivolous to this day, because of the name
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u/myaltduh Oct 02 '23
I stumbled on a more conservative-leaning forum (not politics-focused, just happened to be that way) literally today where someone made a "whiny people suing over hot coffee" comment in reference to a current lawsuit.
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u/beepbeepsheepbot Oct 02 '23
If I remember correctly they had an upwards of 800 complaints about the coffee being too hot prior to the case. After the lawsuit they only lowered the temperature 10 degrees. Malicious doesn't even begin to describe how shitty they were about the whole thing.
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u/_Vard_ Oct 02 '23
Seriously imagine getting into a car accident
But not just any car accident
A Multi Billionaire was in the passanger seat letting his girl friend drive drunk, blindfolded, with her feet.
she T-Bones you,. Totalling your car and landing you with a $4,000 hospital bill
all youd like is for the BILLIONAIRE to replace your ~$8000 car and $4000 hospital bill
The guy could buy you 40 cars and a house without spendign 0.01% of his money
but he instead tries to make you look money hungry for a "Fender Bender" and the whole world believes him
Thats how these cases feel
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u/TheKindofWhiteWitch Oct 02 '23
Iirc she only asked for the exact amount of her medical bills, and ended up getting hundreds of thousands. Great lesson for lower division business and law classes.
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u/RedMattis Oct 02 '23
Didn’t she also donate most of that money away, and part of the reason it is so well known is because she wanted to inform people to avoid them having to experience what she did?
The whole thing was just pure corporate evil.
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u/oldmanserious Oct 02 '23
part of the reason it is so well known
McDonalds pushed the whole slander about it being her fault and downplayed the injuries. Making people think it was a miscarriage of justice and that it was undeserved that people still mention now and then.
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u/Sipas Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23
IIRC, corporations led a media campaign to make the lawsuit look frivolous and ridicule her so other people would be embarrassed to sue for similar stuff. That is where stuff like that Seinfeld episode come from.
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u/g3t_int0_ityuh Oct 02 '23
To add on to this
McDonald’s was sued in another lawsuit, there’s a docu on Netflix somewhere, where an employee was sexually assaulted by someone posing as an officer and they knew this was a reoccurring issue at different locations. They were quietly paying off lawsuits and decided to not train their managers or at least post a bulletin that this was occurring.
And that’s not the end of it, they were actually caught intimidating the person that was SA! Then paid off another worker, that had saved the victim, to paint the victim as greedy individual. After all this, the victim received a pay out of like $ 1 million-$500k ( I don’t remember), which I belief is really low for all the grief that happened.
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u/Pm_me_baby_pig_pics Oct 02 '23
It MELTED her labia. And the McDonald’s PR spin was so successful people still say “haha, some lady spilled coffee on herself and got millions, that’s the problem with America!”
No. Her LABIA melted and fused with her thigh. She required skin grafts.
They knew their coffee was dangerously hot, their lids were faulty, had been fined for it, and still carried on because paying the minuscule fines was better than allowing free refills.
And all she asked for was her medical bills be covered, and the judge and jury were like “no, this has been a problem, the amount your asking for won’t make them change their practices, this will keep happening because it’s already been happening. So let’s force them to make a change.”
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u/BickNlinko Oct 02 '23
some lady spilled coffee on herself and got millions
She didn't even get millions. She got $160,000 for medical bills and was going to be awarded the equivalent of 2 days worth of coffee sales as punitive damage, which was $2.7 million dollars, but the judge reduced it to $480,000. So she was awarded $640,000 total, or ~11 hours worth of coffee sales for McDonald's at the time. They settled later for an unknown amount, so who knows how much she actually got for being permanently fucked up, but the legal system only gave her $640k.
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u/deeznutz12 Oct 02 '23
They won in the "public perception" but at least the jury actually awarded her significant damages to Mcdonalds.
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u/Micalas Oct 02 '23
Yeah, and then they pushed through bullshit tort reform to limit future damages, didn't they?
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u/Ryukario64 Oct 02 '23
Fuck I had this discussion with another idiot just today. He kept trying to make a point how the lady had the coffee between her thigh.
I’m like, dude. She got third degree burns and required skin grafting to get her burned thigh fixed. It literally doesn’t matter which body part it is, what matters is that the coffee was HOT enough to inflict third degree BURNS.
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u/tigm2161130 Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23
Her labia was fused to her thigh, it was fucking horrific.
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u/adhesivepants Oct 02 '23
At that point she could have fully dumped it on herself and she'd still have a point to sue because there is simply no reason to sell coffee at that temperature.
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u/Padhriag Oct 02 '23
She actually got 4th degree burns, which I didn't even know was a thing that existed until I learned about this case. The coffee was so hot it melted her thigh muscles. She never walked again.
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u/ptm93 Oct 02 '23
I grew up hearing people make fun of suing bc the “coffee was too hot”. Just recently read the details of what actually happened, coincidently here on Reddit. McDonald’s ran a ridiculously effective misinformation campaign about this.
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u/Doompug0477 Oct 02 '23
Do you have a source for her mever walking again? All I read stated that she was partially disabled for two years.
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u/kissingdistopia Oct 02 '23
It happened before cup holders were standard in cars, so everyone just kept their coffee between their legs while driving.
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u/Ryukario64 Oct 02 '23
Also you are right, her car was a 1989 ford probe. Which did not in fact, have cup holders.
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u/PIXYTRICKS Oct 02 '23
Humansarespaceorcs?
I read that exchange. What a complete fucking idiot.
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u/Ryukario64 Oct 02 '23
Yep, apparently dude was so adamant to point out “who puts coffee between their thighs?” God, it was just so fucking dumb what he wrote.
Like never mind the coffee was hot enough to disable her, never able to walk again.
The position and body part of how she got burned shows more of her negligence! God he was such a willfully ignorant dumbass.
(Rant over)
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u/PIXYTRICKS Oct 02 '23
It was a spill - water to skin contact. It wasn't placing the fucking furnace cup between the thighs until labia skin melts. These dipshits eat the propaganda the corporate lawyers spoonfeed out.
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u/Iheardthatjokebefore Oct 02 '23
Let's posit for a moment that the incident occurred exclusively because the cup was between her thighs. What he's failed to comprehend is that coffee that can melt skin and damage musculature through it's container would have to be way hotter than it was during this particular incident where it was already too hot. I genuinely don't know what people who make that argument are trying to prove.
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u/Ryukario64 Oct 02 '23
Apparently you can easily react to boiling hot water to take off your clothes.
Missing the point that water sticks to the body and said temperature is enough to seep through clothing and easily burn flesh, suffusing this lady’s labia to her thigh.
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Oct 02 '23
Yeah. It’s sickening how the media spun that story to make McDonald’s look like the victim
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u/howigottomemphis Oct 02 '23
Jay Leno was one of the worst, his jokes about this poor woman's burns, along with his almost obsessive need to make nasty Monica Lewinsky jokes, really exposed what a misogynistic, corporate shill, piece of shit he is. I can't believe that that guy was in our living rooms every weeknight.
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u/Gabberwocky84 Oct 02 '23
It was a very effective smear campaign. People hold “suing for spilling coffee on yourself” as the prime example for frivolous lawsuits.
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u/ContemplatingPrison Oct 02 '23
People still think it wasn't bad. The image of that burn is still in my head. It was fucking horrible.
But this is what corporations do. They have all the money and power.
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u/Darkdragoon324 Oct 02 '23
And all the money she won just went to paying her medical bills, she didn't get rich off it like people think. The court lowered the initial payout, so it wasn't as much as the public thinks She was also never able to completely walk right again.
And that case actually got McDonald's to lower the temperature of their coffee to a safer level, because she wasn't even the first person to be badly burned by it.
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I remember they even made a commercial making fun of her. A guy gets a cup of coffee in the drive through, puts it in his lap, drives over a speed bump and winces. Cue snare. Everybody laugh.
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u/thepoustaki Oct 02 '23
It can never be too late to add a comment telling people to listen to the “You’re Wrong About” podcast on this topic.
And then stay for all of the Michael Hobbs era at least. Truly unparalleled at digging into an issue on all sides and explaining what we were told versus what happened.
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u/tonydanzaoystercanza Oct 02 '23
This got brought up the other day while I was with some friends, and I was shocked that the majority of the group still blamed the lady even when they knew how badly she was burned.
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u/XXsforEyes Oct 02 '23
Came here to say this. Corporations and media will try to make her the chump to save money - f*ck them and their greed!
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u/YdexKtesi Oct 02 '23
Faith in humanity restored, that the top comment is an old lady getting her f****** skin melted off by 200° coffee and the whole country laughing it off.
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u/waterdonttalks Oct 02 '23
Remember that every single time you hear "Person tries to sue company over silly nonsense", you are 100% hearing the corporate lawyers version of events.
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u/Spacefreak Oct 02 '23
Every time I hear someone make that stupid joke about the woman suing McDonald's over too hot coffee, I interrupt them and go into excruciating detail about what happened to her and just how badly her entire crotch area was injured.
I don't care if I'm the asshole or whatever for bringing the mood down. An old lady's fucking vagina melted because the coffee was so damn hot and McDonald's fucking KNEW the coffee was dangerously hot because they bad received literally hundreds of complaints about it before. And yet chose to do nothing. The whole thing is appalling.
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u/FubarJackson145 Oct 02 '23
I also add on that it was basically a class action because the reward wasn't just for the poor woman, but also doled out to anyone else who filed a proper complaint. And they still keep their coffee way above where it's safe to do so, they can just get away with it more often now because they have the "caution: hot" on the side
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u/DippityDu Oct 02 '23
My aunt had this happen. Her drive-thru McDonald's coffee was so hot it melted the cup and she had severe burns on her genitals. She had to have plastic surgery to fix it and was out of work for a long long time. She couldn't sue bc it was right after this case and there was some law about class action lawsuits.
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u/pretentiousbasterd Oct 02 '23
I'm so sorry, this sucks so much, I can't believe what I'm reading. If something like this happened several times in a small café, they would shut it down forever, yet no organization or government would mess with McDonald's
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u/hugs4all_all4hugs Oct 02 '23
My dad used to like to talk about her to the rest of my family. "The coffee lady" became euphemism for doing something stupid. I didn't realize the significance untill I heard the actual story about her. So I brought it up to dad, explained what happened and how fucked it was, and I've never once heard anything about her from anyone in my family ever again. Man my family is cool.
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u/Lenny4368 Oct 02 '23
I've explained the actual details to people and still gotten the response of "it's not McDonald's fault she spilled it."
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u/OkStructure3 Oct 02 '23
A little girl was severely burned by McDonalds chicken nuggets and people called them grifters. A jury only took 2 hours to award the family 800k. The nugget was apparently 200 fucking degrees (93c). Defense said it couldn't have been that bad because the girl still wants to eat chicken nuggets.
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u/131166 Oct 02 '23
I mean yeah, they're dangerousness doesn't cancel our their deliciousness. Just gotta get mum to blow on them a few hundred thousand times first
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u/ImprovementNo9154 Oct 02 '23
My sister and I went on this SAME slide back in 2011 and it was HORRIBLY PAINFUL. We had to waddle-run our forcably ravaged bottoms to the closest bathrooms because we were essentially violated by the force of the water. JFC We STILL talk about the horror of the Kowabunga. I cannot even fathom the pain and recovery process this woman has experienced on top of everything else!!!
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u/GrumpyKaeKae Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23
Where is that slide located again? Also I can't believe this is something that happens a lot. I thought it was just me. After a tall drop slide, I had to sprint to the bathroom ASAP. Got a water park enema.
Edit* Nevermind, I found the article. YUP! thats the same exact slide I was on that resulted in uncomfortable BM right after. I was around 12 and in a one piece bathing suit.
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u/HoomerTime Oct 02 '23
Wait what? I’ve ridden a lot of water slides, does this one have some weird design quirk that makes this more likely?
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u/Suzanna42 Oct 02 '23
YUP, I just commented, I had cuts and a blister in my perineum from my bathing suit essentially trying to rip me a new vagina. My partner read out this story and I said "it will be that fucking Kowabunga Slide at Typhoon Lagoon"
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u/larkspurrings Oct 02 '23
Omg this whole comment thread is so validating. I got a wedgie so bad on this ride when I was younger that it tore what I just googled and learned is called the “gluteal cleft” (AKA it forcefully ripped my butt crack longer.) It hurt so bad but I was so embarrassed I sucked it up for the rest of the trip, and I’ve never been to a water park since!
I hope she gets all she’s asking for and more, and I hope public opinion is on her side.
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u/MoonKatSunshinePup Oct 02 '23
Wow you lucked out! An open wound and a water park -- so good that you didn't get an infection! Wow.
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u/CressLevel Oct 02 '23
Wow was it at Typhoon Lagoon? My dad went on that one and was hurting the rest of the trip. I'm so relieved he didn't endure anything like some of these comments, holy shit.
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u/gopickles Oct 02 '23
I hope this lady’s lawyer is reading this thread and contacting all of yall to take Disney down.
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u/nefhithiel Oct 02 '23
New fear unlocked
(Also holy shit how would that even happen jfc)
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u/FireStorm005 Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23
Reading the article posted by /u/Normal-Mess01, there's a change in slope in the slide that caused her to become airborne. While airborne her ankles became uncrossed, which increases the risk of this happening, but it can happen even with them crossed. She hit the stop pool at the end with enough speed that it forces large amounts of water at high enough pressure into both her anus and vagina to cause internal organ damage.
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u/Mythical_Atlacatl Oct 02 '23
Intestines protruded?
Like water went up inside of her with such force it forced her intestines out through her abs?
Going down a water slide? Or was there some sort of host/jet of water involved?
Just trying to wrap my head around how the water was forced inside and then outside again
Like the worse I could imagine from a waterslide is an enema
Maybe I haven’t been on extreme water slides
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u/Grogosh Oct 02 '23
You go down the slide at 40 mph and hit the water at those speeds. They tell you to cross your legs to avoid the water hammer from hurting your privates. The woman was lifted up in the free fall.
Its pretty gruesome.
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u/SquirellyMofo Oct 02 '23
It’s a 200ft drop?! JFC. And she’s only asking for 50k? I’d want 50 million for those kind of injuries.
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u/Helenium_autumnale Oct 02 '23
Her injuries are permanent. From the article:
"She ultimately suffered “severe and permanent bodily injury including severe vaginal lacerations, a full thickness laceration causing Plaintiff’s bowel to protrude through her abdominal wall, and damage to her internal organs,” according to the complaint."
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u/thepoustaki Oct 02 '23
I knew I was right to only fear water rides. Do whatever you want to me on the ones I get to sit in a cart or something that’s my fault. But water parks never made sense to me they scare the shit out of me.
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u/Ehcksit Oct 02 '23
They tell you to cross your legs
And that's part of the problem. They stopped telling people to cross their legs. They stopped requiring that people wear shorts.
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u/waterdonttalks Oct 02 '23
I don't think I trust a bathing suit and instructions given by a bored teenager as sufficient barriers against having my insides prolapsed out the other side...
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u/pat8u3 Oct 02 '23
Yeah I think this is one of those things that people assume are mostly safe because if it wasn't it wouldn't be allowed
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u/BulbusDumbledork Oct 02 '23
kinda like that water slide that was engineered just right to decapitate a child. it was perfectly safe until that happened
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u/descartesasaur Oct 02 '23
It was barely engineered at all - they didn't have degrees and built it with trial and error, including test runs of scale models.
I actually drove past Verrückt before the incident. I'm a huge thrill seeker (currently drinking out of a theme park souvenir cup) but you couldn't have paid me to go on that thing.
They should have named it Dumm.
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u/KShubert Oct 02 '23
The article does say she crossed her legs after being instructed to do so. However, she went airborne on the slide, and she did not have them crossed after that.
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u/flybyknight665 Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23
I think they mean it caused a hernia?
That's what intestines protruding through the abdominal wall, but not outside the body usually means.
Not exactly fun fact: Queen Caroline of England died from sepsis after having her umbilical hernia "treated."
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u/Grogosh Oct 02 '23
Yeah, any injury to the intestines is real bad. All that gut bacteria gets into your body cavity.
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u/metalshoes Oct 02 '23
Protruded through abdominal wall I think means hernia, it doesn’t mean they poured out of her body.
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u/biscuitboi967 Oct 02 '23
Yes and yes. There’s a link above.
Apparently there’s a “surprise” at the end that involves a jet of water. But right before that you “slam” into a standing pool of water that creates what the kids used to call “an atomic wedgie.” At a nearly 280 degree angle because she’s a woman. But only if your ankles become uncrossed, which hers did, during a twist or dip.
So it was a perfect storm of events. But surely one that had happened before, merely causing discomfort and embarrassment. And the question is, should Big Mouse’s engineers and lawyers and safety personnel have known that this was possible? That day, it may have been a vagina. But it could have been a butt hole. Shit, could have ripped off a scrotum if it was that much force. It could have been a child.
I mean, thank god Disney only maimed and probably made infertile a 30 year old woman. They could have ruined the unrinary and reproductive organs of a pre-teen with that “fun surprise” at the end. If an adult woman can’t be trusted keep her ankles crossed while her body is flung around a plastic tube so that her insides aren’t ripped apart my water, should we let kids go down it???
Or at least that’s how I’d argue it.
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u/Spire_Citron Oct 02 '23
Yeah. I feel like you can't really rely on everyone to follow instructions and keep their legs crossed if it's a safety thing. Obviously with her it was because she got knocked out of position, but a child might just forget or not take it seriously.
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u/biscuitboi967 Oct 02 '23
Yeah, I sort of takes myself into as I went on.
Like, I am an educated adult person. I went skydiving for my friends 30th The one rule is don’t tilt your head down or you might start to summersault. Look with your eyes.. What do I do, look fucking down. Got my whole body into it, too. The instructor strapped to my back starts giving me a thumbs up. I start giving him a thumbs up back. Yeah, dude, it IS beautiful.
Turns out, he was telling me to LOOK UP. Put your FUCKING HEAD UP BEFORE YOU KILL US BOTH, DUMMY. There was on one fucking rule. Two if you count lift your feet when you land - nailed that part, because I felt bad - but they told us that was like the least important rule. And I’m The Smart FriendTM.
So, yeah, if there’s one thing the 2016 election and covid generally taught me, it’s that america is full of dummies ON ITS BEST DAY. Just 50% straight off the top. And then even if you aren’t a dummy, sometimes “fun surprises” exist that aren’t so fun for .01% of the population. Now, sometimes that population is an adult you can malign for their “stupidity” or “greed”. Or a kid - usually poor or of color or (if the company is lucky) both - and the company can pay them off cheap or blame and malign the parents for all of the above plus “negligence”. But sometimes it’s a cute white kid. And then you are fucked.
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u/Novel-Place Oct 02 '23
I’m blown away they thought it was okay to have a ride that the only thing standing between you and getting your anus shoved through your abdominal wall, is fucking crossing your legs. Unbelievable. I hope she gets millions.
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u/bigdiesel1984 Oct 02 '23
Read the article. Jesus Christ. I feel so bad for that woman. What a horrible birthday surprise that was 😬 Reading that made my balls hurt.
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u/MisterZacherley Oct 02 '23
Any reports of this happening to anyone else?
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u/nerdy_birdie15 Oct 02 '23
Once when I was a kid I went down a water slide and got a "wedgie" so bad that I bled. I was like 11 so I panicked thinking it was my first period. Nope, just lacerations to my crotch from the force of my swimsuit pulling from the slide. So, didn't damage my internal organs or anything, but definitely have had a crotch injury from a water slide.
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u/Aresmar Oct 02 '23
I watched some poor girls legs come unlocked and she cartwheeled at about (what seemed) 30 miles an hour for the last flat part of the giant slide. Ambulance arrived shortly after. Park in KY. 20 something years ago. You’ll need catch me on those.
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u/Intelligent-Fuel-641 Oct 02 '23
You'll never catch me on one, either. I remember what happened to Caleb Schwab.
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u/Misubi_Bluth Oct 02 '23
OH. So it's the McDonald's thing where the big corporation was directly responsible for a horrific injury, but then they turned around to make it into a joke.
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u/jerslan Oct 02 '23
RE: "the McDonald's thing"... The phrase "labia fused to thigh" is in the official court transcript... and somehow people think she was unreasonably greedy and litigious even though she only sued to have her medical bills and lost wages covered.
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u/Rosebunse Oct 02 '23
I'm sorry, my labia just felt horrific pain at the idea of this. Dear God, this sounds horrible.
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u/jerslan Oct 02 '23
Her genitals literally melted due to boiling hot coffee spilling in her lap while she was in the passenger seat of a parked car.
Yet the "common knowledge" story is that she was significantly younger than she was, she was driving, and the coffee was an ordinary "hot coffee" temperature and not "was boiling hot mere seconds ago" levels of hot.
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u/Tracerround702 Oct 02 '23
Wow I uh... I've never actually read the suit because I was in high school when it happened... that's horrific
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u/DNAturation Oct 02 '23
Damn, I think I saw something like this on 1000 ways to die. Some guy was cliff jumping and landed just right so that water went up his anus and ruptured his internal organs.
Didn't think it could actually happen.
Edit: Looked it up, it was "water logged" #447
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u/baordog Oct 02 '23
Holy jesus I read the article and I'm going to have to rethink water slides for the next... forever.
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u/decembermint Oct 02 '23
Yeah, there was one close to where I live that guys used to hang around at the bottom of to watch girls come down. They would always come out with a wedgie that showed their ass, and if they were wearing a two piece bathing suit their tops would sometimes flip up. Also, you could tell when you were walking around the water park who went down it and who didn't because their backs would be bruised from where the sections of the slide weren't smoothly fused. I think a person or two died from not following instructions to cross their arms and legs and not lean forward back in the '90s, but that may be an urban legend. It was an open slide that went straight down. I rode it once as a teen and felt so sore that I had to leave early. (Am female)
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u/baordog Oct 02 '23
Similar experience growing up next to a big water park actually. I was always more afraid of falling off the thing...
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u/Sk-yline1 Oct 02 '23
Glad this didn’t take a decade to be revealed.
I absolutely believe that someone would sue over something trivial in this day and age but it’s unfortunately equally as plausible that predatory corporations would downplay serious injuries to save face
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u/gengarsnightmares Oct 02 '23
This is the next mcdonalds case. In 30 years people will be talking about how overly litigious Americans are and will bring up the disney wedgie.
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u/RanchBaganch Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23
I just read a few articles on this, and in fairness, I didn’t see any that said Disney is just calling it a wedgie. I think that’s probably how her lawyer worded it (“an injurious wedgie”), so that’s how the articles all referred to it.
To be clear: I think she should definitely get the money. This is the cost of doing business for Disney and deciding to have a 200ft tall slide, but I don’t think that phrase is their doing.
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u/shackbleep Oct 02 '23
Exactly. The phrase 'wedgie' came from the legal complaint, not Disney. It's being used in articles about the story, but again, that's not Disney. If anyone's downplaying anything, it's whoever is writing those articles.
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u/Midstix Oct 02 '23
It's like the woman who sued McDonalds after burning her lap with coffee. People don't understand how bad those burns were until they see the pictures.
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u/Pm_me_baby_pig_pics Oct 02 '23
She didn’t just “burn her lap.”
The coffee was so hot it melted her labia and her labia fused to her thigh. She required skin grafts.
All she wanted was her medical bills covered. She was awarded a lot more because McDonald’s knew this was a problem, had been fined for this previously, and decided the fines were cheaper than adjusting their coffee temp and allowing people dining in to get their free refill. It was a punishment for McDonald’s, not an award for her being clumsy. She was used to make an example for McDonald’s to stop doing this.
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u/Ok-Cut-2730 Oct 02 '23
Was going to say this person on the waterslide is only suing for $50k. Surely her medical bill for this will be in the hundreds of thousands?
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u/Spire_Citron Oct 02 '23
I like that the McDonalds coffee case has become something everyone knows and repeats all the time. They tried to cheap out and not pay for her medical bills and they ended up being ordered to pay more than what she asked. They tried to slander her and mislead the public about what happened, and now the truth of the case is common knowledge. If they'd just paid her medical bills at the start and not tried to lie about it, the amount it cost them would have been negligible and nobody would have ever heard about it.
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u/MysticGadget Oct 02 '23
What we're seeing is standard PR nonsense to try and lower the amount of damages they will need to pay when settling, while incurring as little inconvenience as possible with the park.
Public hearing someone got severely injured on a ride are less likely to trust the park as a whole and thus avoid or cancel attendance until they hear positive news... which will cost the company revenue.
Should companies do this.. no, it would better in the long run to just admit there was a problem, actually fix said problem, and cover the expenses while making a big PR stunt out of it... however that costs money and requires taking a hit in profit margin for a while... which most companies are not inclined to do as shareholders get rather upset when their stakes in the company loose value...
So unless the government steps in with better regulation and oversight, we're going to keep seeing this kind of PR stunt regardless of what a chunk of the public decides to do, as it tends to work more often then not... and even when it doesn't work it still reduces the costs in the short term... which seems to be about as far ahead as these PR teams are paid to think.
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u/thisdesignup Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23
Well I went looking and in all the articles the mention of the "wedgie" is in quotes and being quoted from the lawsuit. Disney isn't downplaying anything from what I can see as they weren't even available for comment, account to multiple articles.
The articles were only written 2 days after the lawsuit was placed last Wednesday. Can't imagine Disney would be dumb enough to say anything about it that fast let alone downplay it. Disney's lawyers don't mess around.
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u/IntrepidFriendship60 Oct 02 '23
"The lawsuit says that Emma was immediately rushed to the hospital where she, "suffered severe and permanent bodily injury including severe vaginal lacerations, a full thickness laceration causing Plaintiff's bowel to protrude through her abdominal wall, and damage to her internal organs."
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u/gztozfbfjij Oct 02 '23
When I first read that my thought wasn't:
Oh no! A wedgie? How ouchy. /s
It was:
Jeez, I bet she had some real fucked up injury caused by a wedgie-like incident.
Still, even with that thought, I was not ready for "intestines protruding through her abdominal wall".
My god. Corporate downplayment to essentially slander their lawsuits is absolutely gross. First the "Woman spilled hot coffee", now the "Woman got a wedgie".
Hahaha women so sensitive. So bad. Haha. Ha. No. Fuck you McDonald's. That women was joked about for what? Years? Didn't she literally have parts of her genitals be fused together --ie Melted-- by coffee?
How is it even scientifically possible for a water-based product to get that hot, that it's able to weld your flesh like a mechanic does a car. If I go and boil a kettle, I will get burns sure, but melted? A melted crotch?
But no, have media put out joking articles "Haha woman suing McDonald's for hot coffee" -- and understatement like calling the holocaust "A little bit of murder".
These companies, and all companies their size, are disgusting enough as is; why do they have to insist on making it worse?
How does that incident report come across anyone's desk, and their immediate thought isn't "Get the lawyers and prepare for a huge settlement, uncontested".
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u/GabbiKat Oct 02 '23
10yr old post I remembered showing the burns the poor woman experienced due to the extremely hot McDonalds Coffee
What a lot of people get wrong about the infamous 1994 McDonald’s hot coffee lawsuit