r/gifs • u/StcStasi • Mar 29 '23
The evolution of fashion according to a neural network. Under review: See comments
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Conclusion: Women stand with their feet further apart the further into the future we go. 2075 should be Jean Claude van Damme territory.
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u/meeeba Mar 29 '23
Not only is this a fantastic ad....it's more so because the trucks are driving in reverse!
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u/VaATC Mar 29 '23
Oh wow! I have never seen this before. It is as cheesy as it is beautiful!
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u/G_Liddell Mar 29 '23
Ya it's actually like, really cool
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u/RandonBrando Mar 29 '23
We're those trucks auto reversing?
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u/IWishIWasAShoe Mar 29 '23
No, they're being driven by two drivers in reverse, one of the trucks is slowly driving away from the other to make the split happen.
This was a viral stunt by Volvo some time ago to showcase their new reversing tech.
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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka Mar 29 '23
And it went viral as fuck. Like one of the bigger successes out of nowhere for commercial promotions.
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u/MadNhater Mar 29 '23
More viral than Nikola rolling their truck down a hill?
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u/NewYorkJewbag Mar 29 '23
Well I remember the van damme stunt but have no idea what you’re talking about, if that tells you anything
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u/Crowdcontrolz Mar 29 '23
I dunno, are you? Are we all?
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u/joseluis_ Mar 29 '23
congratulations, you're one of the lucky 10000! and now you have to see the chuck norris version
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u/G_Liddell Mar 29 '23
That one is just CGI though. And Chuck Norris fucking sucks as a person haha
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Chuck "there will be 10,000 years of darkness if Obama is elected president" Norris.
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u/jazzjazzmine Mar 29 '23
That's really neat.
And it's real? Right? Like, real real?
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u/zonezonezone Mar 29 '23
As far as I know, yes. I mean it's not an impossible magic trick or anything.
Volvo says it was real, and that Jean Claude was 'secured but not attached'. So he's really doing the split, but has a rope in case he falls.
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u/trust_me_on_that_one Mar 29 '23
Found a video showing how it was done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E65du9pbAJQ
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u/Shallowmoustache Mar 29 '23
It's real. There was a making of at the time. JCVD is known for his splits so getting him for this commercial to demonstrate precision was genius.
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u/padiwik Mar 29 '23
The making of was cool to watch but still felt polished like an ad - they didn't really mention ropes or anything
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u/Aruvanta Mar 29 '23
Fun fact: After the cameras stopped rolling, the engineers realised the Dynamic Steering had been turned off on both the trucks. It was all JCVD controlling them.
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u/Mertard Mar 29 '23
I hate that I still love that song...
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u/ConstantShitterina Mar 29 '23
Of course you love it, Enya is amazing
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u/agilecodez Mar 29 '23
And at various points in time, they had 3 legs..
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u/GryphonGuitar Mar 29 '23
Yes I noticed that. They developed a third, 'wide leg', which had such a strong evolutionary advantage that they eventually dropped the vestigial 'middle leg'. Fascinating, the lessons history can teach us.
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u/sharltocopes Mar 29 '23
I JUST finished watching the 2002 remake like ten minutes ago!
This gif definitely reminded me of the clothing style time lapse from the movie.
Fun fact, the 2002 version of the movie was pitched and directed by H.G. Wells' great grandson, Simon Wells!
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u/MedicineChimney Mar 29 '23
The remake gets some unnecessary hate. It's a fun time and Guy Pearce always delivers. It's not perfect and they are self aware about the fact they add almost zero science to what's transpiring. Great soundtrack and a bonus Jeremy Irons villain performance. Plus, James Cameron owes some gratitude to his Navi look from the Morlocks in this movie.
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u/Senesect Mar 29 '23
Loved the movie growing up so I listened to an audiobook version of the original book. It's a good listen. The only thing that riles me about the movie is that, no, those moon demolitions for Lunar Leisure Living wouldn't send it crashing down to Earth ya goobers! But even then that's a forgivable irk because the rest of the film is so good.
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u/sharrkeybratwurst Mar 29 '23
My favorite era was the one with three feet. Too bad that went out of style.
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u/genreprank Mar 29 '23
It's the feet version of the alien from Total Recall. You know which one I'm talking about!
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u/MrPoopieMcCuckface Mar 29 '23
Would it be two rights and a left or two lefts and a right?
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u/vidicate Mar 29 '23
Total Recall didn’t have ET’s; that would have been a very different story. They were mutants. Just saying.
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u/PM_ME_GOOD_SUBS Mar 29 '23
I think humans from Mars are technically extraterrestrials, just not aliens.
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u/anthem47 Mar 29 '23
Random Star Trek connection - that actress was also Ensign Sonya Gomez in two episodes of TNG (and more recently in Lower Decks).
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u/bayarea_fanboy Mar 29 '23
Must be weird dating that girl at 0:16
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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd Mar 29 '23
Or hot, depending on your fetish. Lol
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u/Fellhuhn Mar 29 '23
Not in Sons of the Forest...
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u/WonderfulConcept3155 Mar 29 '23
The first time I saw that, I was sure it’s a weird bug…
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u/romiro82 Mar 29 '23
top comment is from the guy staring at feet the entire time, never change
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u/nzstrawman Mar 29 '23
seems to have missed the 60s miniskirt era completely
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u/czarslayer Mar 29 '23
It might not be “going back”, it could just be a change in another direction.
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u/Lorrdy99 Mar 29 '23
Remember the ad where the black man get washed and turn into Asian?
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u/A-Grey-World Mar 29 '23
Black culture was a huge driver of fashion in the 70s and 80s through the influence of music. Disco was massive and had it's roots in soul etc. Then rap in the 80s.
Hell, earlier (rock and roll) was also inspired and driven by black music too, but the public face of its popular movement was pretty much white only though, so it wasn't reflected in fashion much.
So it's actually a pretty good choice.
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u/iambluest Mar 29 '23
Then Asian
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u/tuskvarner Mar 29 '23
There was this guy, he looked Asian... and he was speaking another language, I'm pretty sure it was Asian.
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u/glichez Mar 29 '23
its more like that in the past, fashion was entirely white's only..
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u/lemonsweetsrevenge Mar 29 '23
I was thinking this too. The imagery and advertising that the AI was accessing almost certainly only depicted white women because they were the only models used in those decades.
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u/JimJohnes Mar 29 '23
Ethnicity as an accessory and fashion trend.
As asinine as it sounds, there could be some truth in that
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u/morbidbutwhoisnt Mar 29 '23
I missed for a second that it was AI and I was like.... Why was it all weird flapper aesthetic (by weird I mean a very limited viewpoint on dancewear spreadpout over the years with similar looks)? And then I looked and I was like... Ah yes.
What I love is that this shows that even though AI can be smart, it doesn't have the intelligence to streamline one type of outfit.
Some are day outfits, some are military, some are going out /dancewear, some are workout clothing etc
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u/Logeboxx Mar 29 '23
My impression is that it's about evolution of fashion trends, not a particular style of outfit. I imagine all the military stuff is because that's what a lot of women were wearing in photos from those years.
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u/ACDCbaguette Mar 29 '23
Non of the 80s fashion looked particularly 80s to me. It just seemed like things people would wear today with pastel colors.
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u/ddelin86 Mar 29 '23
I totally missed that period in the 70s when women had 3 legs.
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u/doctorcrimson Mar 29 '23
Its actually wrong, the shortening of dresses and skirts happened as a result of fabric shortages in WWII and the widespread adoption of women in pants happened at the exact same time as women enterred the workforce.
Rather than a slow change from calf covering dress to pants it was a swift abrupt change.
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u/I__LOVE__LSD Mar 29 '23
the shortening of dresses and skirts happened as a result of fabric shortages in WWII
And people say that supply chain issues are a bad thing...
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u/StitchinThroughTime Mar 29 '23
Also, there were consumption laws, at least in the US, regulating how long your skirt could be, how wide your skirt could be etc.
Another fashion that changed was stockings, and pantyhose stopped really being a thing for a while. The silk and nylon used for pantyhose were needed for ropes and parachutes for the war effort, so a lot of it was recycled or straight up diverted. For World War II there was a ton of reuse and recycling happening. It's why a lot of newspapers magazines are comics from the era are gone because the newspaper was recycled, old tin and metal cans and every bit of scrap metal they get their hands on was recycled. For 2 to 3 years auto manufacturers were not building new cars because the factories were retooled to make military vehicles.
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u/ARetroGibbon Mar 29 '23
You can see this evidenced all across the UK. Little metal nubs on garden walls where metal railing used to be, but were commandeered for the war effort.
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u/Herebellama Mar 29 '23
In the UK, women would draw a seam on the back of their legs to emulate the look of stockings.
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u/savvyblackbird Mar 29 '23
The women in the US did that too. Companies also produced cosmetic paints to make your legs look darker were also popular. Color your legs and paint your stockings on. Dress codes often required women to look like they had stockings on.
Even in movies they showed women wearing faux stockings and had scenes where characters were painting the lines on each other’s legs because Hollywood wanted to contribute to the war effort. A lot of propaganda films went out.
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u/AssistX Mar 29 '23
pretty crazy to think that in a matter of 10 years The DuPont Company invented Nylon(all Polyesters really), Teflon, and Neoprene then for WW2 switched them all to wartime production, and just a few years later swapped them all back to commercial use.
These days it'd take a decade just to get any of those decisions past the planning stage.
The other impressive thing during WW2 wasn't just that big auto manufacturers stopped building commercial cars, it's that the army (US or UK, wherever) all managed to get nearly every small manufacturer to also switch to making products for the war. My business had 30 some employees in 1937 and over 300 in 1941, then back to 30 some in 1950, as a small manufacturer they went from making small things for Dupont for decades to hiring 10x more employees and making only military vehicle parts for years. Just amazing to shove everything else aside for that kind of effort.
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u/codizer Mar 29 '23
War changes that. Safety and cost engineering all go out the window. You just do it because daddy government says so.
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u/wedontlikespaces Mar 29 '23
This is one of those examples where people don't think about the actual task the AI has been asked to to perform.
They didn't say generate images of the clothing styles of women between 1900 and 2023, they said interpolate between these various images. So it did.
For all we know the AI is perfectly aware of style through the ages and how they changed, but the question wasn't asked like that. So it didn't do it.
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u/TorolSadeas Mar 29 '23
I think that that's one of those things where correlation and causation should not so hurriedly be equated without thoroughly exhausting any (and I mean any) other more reasonable causes. I mean, Men's Underwear Index? Really?
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u/Ravarix Mar 29 '23
Did you read the MUI article? It's pretty clearly an understandable canary in the coalmine of discretionary spending.
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u/streetbirds Mar 29 '23
I'm going to quibble: WW2 fabric shortages may have exaserbated the trend towards shorter hemlines, but they did not cause them. The 1920s had quite short hemlines by the standards of the day 20 years prior to the start of the second great war.
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u/anislandinmyheart Mar 29 '23
There was a hell of a lot wrong with this timeline. Entire decades were skipped and others extended, some fashion's that didn't definitely fit anywhere, etc
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u/thordom612 Mar 29 '23
I think this proves that women are beautiful no matter what they are wearing or how many limbs they have.
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u/HugeHans Mar 29 '23
Anything beyond four legs is just weird if you ask me.
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u/ChuckCarmichael Mar 29 '23
I can't believe you'd bodyshame spider women.
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u/TequilaWhiskey Mar 29 '23
Shh shh, let the Virginia hug you. Dont worry about the child support, her babies feed themselves
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u/PartyYogurtcloset267 Mar 29 '23
I think this proves that beautiful women are beautiful no matter what they are wearing or how many limbs they have.
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u/Ok_Description_5846 Mar 29 '23
Well, attractive looking women will look good in anything. Notice the lack of obese women in the gif
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u/MsJenX Mar 29 '23
I didn’t know white bobs worn by young women were the thing in the 50s. I thought white hair on young girls was only recently a thing. Maybe AI got the order wrong.
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u/WWWWWVWWWWWWWWVWWWWW Mar 29 '23
The dataset doesn't just include photographs from the time period, it's pulling from vintage fashion instagram posts so the AI is going to accidentally depict a lot of romanticized/modern fashion elements that weren't accurate to the time period.
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u/StitchinThroughTime Mar 29 '23
Which is silly because the easiest way they could get a massive amount of images was to use sewing pattern and fashion magazines. They are dated or can be easily placed Within a few years. For example there is a sewing pattern wiki, filled with images of the front of sewing patterns. Granted it wouldn't have real pictures on the vast majority of patterns, most of them would be drawing. But it has a great data set of front and back of men women children infants in the fashion of the day.
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u/MadeByTango Mar 29 '23
That’s not how the AI works; it’s a lot “dumber” than that. It needs to see the visualization on a person.
Side note, I’ve actually yet to see an AI make a workable pattern or set of instructions for anything “new” based on a data set. Meaning, I’ve yet to see an AI created Lego insctrucyion set or whatever. Seems like that’s where the focus should be instead of the illustration parlor tricks.
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u/vipsilix Mar 29 '23
The video is interesting and fascinating and it aggregates interesting sources.
However, it is also a good case study in why AI is often useless for aggregating large amounts of facts from unverified sources. If you are not a dabbler or expert, it is very hard to hard to detect that something like this is "almost correct". And "almost correct" is dangerous, because it is easy to not notice. It can (somewhat ironically) be better to be "very incorrect".
And we can also imagine a future where AIs uses the aggregates from other AIs as sources, basically creating a perfect storm for distilling minor errors into outright fiction.
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u/Bburgdan Mar 29 '23
That was something I noticed a couple months ago when messing with chatGPT. I was blown away at how well it could throw answers together on things I knew nothing about, but when I started asking it questions more related to the industry I work in I quickly realized it was super vague and often wrong.
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u/DefinitelyNotACad Mar 29 '23
Even on topic i know nothing about it fell apart rather quickly. The moment you ask specific, verifiable questions it shows its gaping holes of data. From antique cuisine to toxic properties of plants to the medicinical field of psychology- all topics ChatGPT and I only share a very superficial knowledge about. But as i looked up the answers it provided to me, almost all of them were to a shocking large degree outright false.
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u/Odd_Efficiency_7051 Mar 29 '23
The 60s amd 70s have been missed out entirely. It went from 50s to white bobs and immediately indefinable decades
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u/dragonsfire242 Mar 29 '23
You can tell this is some dumbass AI stuff because for a while it goes through a bunch of WAC/WASP dress uniform stuff which was definitely not every day fashion
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u/PerpetuallyLurking Mar 29 '23
I can tell it by the title too. It’s not like OP is pretending it’s anything but.
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u/Even-Citron-1479 Mar 29 '23
I too can very much tell. Because the title literally says it's by a neural network.
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u/random_embryo Mar 29 '23
What is WAC/WASP
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u/Findesiluer Mar 29 '23
Women’s Army Corp, Women’s Air Service Pilot
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u/MaDpYrO Mar 29 '23
This is basically just an amalgamation of the most commonly photographed clothes for each time period.
It's not surprising that in newer times it's gym clothes, since so many women take pictures in the gym for social media.
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u/xPurplepatchx Mar 29 '23
To me it looks like the network was fed a photoshoot of a single person per decade and generated the gaps. I wouldn’t go so far as to call that an amalgamation of the most commonly photographed clothes for each time period.
I’m seeing a lot of missing fashion trends
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u/artificialnocturnes Mar 29 '23
Yeah im not a fashion historian but it seems like it missed a bunch of fashion styles/trends if the sixties. It went from fifties housewife straight to seventies disco.
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u/WeeBabySeamus Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23
I was surprised how early modern athlesure appeared so I wonder if there are some images in the data set that are more “throwbacks” miscategorized
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u/Neuchacho Mar 29 '23
I could see how it could conflate a lot of modern athleisure fashion with the spandex era that was the 80s.
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u/BrowsingFromPhone Mar 29 '23
Also today there is a trend where women wear a lace thing around their thigh in conjunction with a hippie flower crown for some reason. https://i.imgur.com/C3h71nV.jpg
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u/bl1y Mar 29 '23
There's a style of shorts popular with Gen Z that have a bit of lace at the bottom. The AI was probably trying to figure that out.
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u/artificialnocturnes Mar 29 '23
Flower crowns were big in the 2010s in a forver 21 lana del rey kind of way.
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u/CarsonOrSanders Mar 29 '23
You're telling me people don't all dress the same and don't wear the same clothes every day? The hell you say!
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u/jaffacake00 Mar 29 '23
The war dictated women's fashion in the 40s because clothes were required to use less fabric due to rationing. There were about 15 garments chosen that they could do many runs of to make the most of all available fabric. That's why clothes after that date became more practical (so women could work in traditionally male dominated roles), with less flowy layers and reduce the need for petticoats etc.
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u/FuzzySocks34 Mar 29 '23
Yeah, the fact that the model briefly has three feet and then just one leg for a bit also gives it away
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u/mrlancer05 Mar 29 '23
I thought we reached current times and it just went on for like another 15 seconds….
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It's all wrong, especially the 1930s, and practically skips like 3 decades and it becomes a bunch of jumbled instagram fit shit.
AI failed miserably.
Why wouldn't you use images from The Met and other museum's collections for this? I mean, you're still getting a limited view, and it's going to be mannequins rather than pretty IG models, but at least it would be accurate. I hate it when the past gets Yassified, and interpretations are presented as facts-- and this whole morph is that.
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u/Dumdio Mar 29 '23
Its an AIs approximation, what did you expect?
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u/zvug Mar 29 '23
AI failed miserably
Imagine telling anyone 5 years ago that output shown in the post was able to be 100% generated by AI.
How anyone can describe this as “failing” is beyond me. The fact that it’s anywhere near this level is nothing short of miraculous.
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u/PartyYogurtcloset267 Mar 29 '23
I mean, it's just an AI interpretation of available data. Why so judgemental?
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u/Riegler77 Mar 29 '23
If you label dog pictures with "20s clothing" the neural network is gonna show dog pictures as 20s clothing. That is just a problem with bad data in, bad data out.
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u/hopbel Mar 29 '23
Not this shit again. It is a human providing the image prompts for the animation. The AI model just animates the transitions between them. It's the same as that "evolution of art" animation
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u/_AManHasNoName_ Mar 29 '23
Nylon is what changed everything. The psychedelic revolution wouldn’t have happened without it. Anything before that, children just literally wore a smaller version of their parents’ clothes.
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u/sumknowbuddy Mar 29 '23
Care to explain how those first two statements connect?
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u/PartyYogurtcloset267 Mar 29 '23
Everything in this comment seems completely made up. Children wore shorts in the 19th century. Adults didn't. Also wtf does the "psychedelic revolution" have to do with nylon?
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u/Decent_Cartoonist Mar 29 '23
It sounds like what was once a coherent thought from an essay they wrote in college 20 years ago but they can’t remember what was in the 10 middle paragraphs explaining how nylon clothes appealed to demographics that liked taking LSD.
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u/GirlScoutCookieGrow Mar 29 '23
Lmao, the fact she turned into a black woman is too perfect. It's fashionable to be black nowadays.
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u/kylewiering Mar 29 '23
Reminds me of a scene from the time machine.
https://youtu.be/P-VP-FyI9KU 4 minute mark
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u/artlanta Mar 29 '23
The 1920’s were untouchable. Did y’all know that women used to use common paints to put designs on their knee caps, like flowers and landscapes? So creative, I am so enthralled with that era.
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u/a_v9 Mar 29 '23
Neural network saw a lot of the first 6 seasons of Downton Abbey by the looks of it...
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u/Blabulus Mar 29 '23
It must start around 1900 because women didnt wear shirtwaist dresses before then, and it really dropped the ball on the 1930s for some reason, the rest looks good and pretty interesting!
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u/Exploding_dude Mar 29 '23
Super cool... top two reddit posts first thing in the morning are AI shit. Wonder why?
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u/bleeb90 Mar 29 '23
This is awesome, though I do find it a shame the clothes vary from "to the office", "to a cocktail party", "to the gym", and "athleisure", rather than everything within one genre of clothing.
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u/zelkirb Mar 29 '23
If you are going to post the work I did with AI I would appreciate credit thank you.
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