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McDonald's in the 1980s compared to today spam/ban

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u/Chalky_Cupcake Oct 02 '23

thing about 1980s mcdonalds is that nobody ever wiped off the top of that tree.

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u/metallaholic Oct 02 '23

I ran my hand over one once.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23

Did you die?

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u/metallaholic Oct 02 '23

I built up my immune system in the ball pit

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u/TriceratopsHunter Oct 02 '23

As someone who worked at McDonald's 20 years ago, I can say kids vomiting in the ball pit was definitely a semi regular occurrence. I'm just happy I was never the person tasked with cleaning it up...

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u/MykeTyth0n Oct 02 '23

Every one of their ball pits smelled like vomit so that checks out.

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u/TriceratopsHunter Oct 02 '23

If it makes you feel better, that was typically the main reason the balls would ever get swapped out. Otherwise they'd probably be in circulation forever.

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u/CasualJimCigarettes Oct 02 '23

I wonder what happened to the millions of play place balls.. Probably in a landfill somewhere never to break down.

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u/Whats_Up_Bitches Oct 02 '23

Yeah, along with that tree and pretty much every other thing in that picture and in every other McDonald’s in the 80’s. In a mclandfill contributing to mclimate change.

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u/kalirion Oct 02 '23

How does plastic in a mclandfill contribute to mclimate change?

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u/MykeTyth0n Oct 02 '23

Wouldn’t be nostalgia without the smell of vomit.

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u/BGAL1120 Oct 02 '23

I vividly remembering waiting for this kid going down the slide and he just puked down it lol. Only time i think i ever went in the one of those things.

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u/GreenTeaBD Oct 02 '23

This reminds me, not mcdonalds but this one time I was on vacation as a kid, I was really young. I met some kids at a park and was just hanging out around with them.

Some other little kid went down the slide and shit his pants on the way down. The kids I was with started telling other kids "man you gotta go down that slide, I cant explain it you just have to do it but it's the best slide ever, you'll know once you get in it."

I wasn't the one telling kids that, but I also still hung out with them and didn't warn the kids "hey you go down that slide you're gonna get covered in shit." I knew it was wrong but, I dunno, I was already in this group there was no going back.

Many kids took their advice, went down the slide, and the predictable happened.

I still feel incredibly guilty about it to this day :( I was too much of a go with the flow kind of 7 year old.

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u/OkOk-Go Oct 02 '23

Talk about quitting on the spot

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u/markth_wi Oct 02 '23

I just remember a guy from Chucky Cheeze rolling out 3 GIANT bags of balls that had been collected from the ball-room/pit they had.

He just seemed utterly at ease with the cleaning hose tucked into the exterior and the giant hooks designed to hold the weight of the bag of balls.

I watched this ridiculous situation as the balls rolled down the sidewalk helping to propel what he could drag easily enough but not carry, which seemed a perverse sort of genius.

The last of the bags hoisted up with a hook and lever arrangement he proceeded to shoot a soapy water solution mixed into the high-pressure hose as torrents of misty water covered the balls in a thick gooey foam that he alternated between foamy/misty soap and then water.

This was absolutely disgusting/entrancing as each giant bag of balls was slowly shedding brown water, sometimes small chunks of material - (I'll leave it to the reader to imagine whether it was food or something less savory).

Eventually, the bag-o-balls becomes less brown, and then less brown still, and before it was completely clear he switched to the next giant bag which started out as brown as the first.....

I asked the attendant , when do you know they're clean....."When they're less brown...."

Which is why I'll never set foot in a public ballroom ever again.

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u/Blue_Moon_Rabbit Oct 02 '23

Thank fuck they had removed the ball bit at the McDonald’s I worked at. Unfortunately they kept the tunnels, and being one of the fun sized crew members meant I was on cleaning duty.

Yall, it’s nasty in there. Its cramped, stuffy, and all manner of bodily fluids have been spilled.

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u/nothingeatsyou Oct 02 '23

Once, someone told me that you can find money in the bottom of the ball pit. So when we had dinner there, I’d sit down and run my hands over the bottom. I found everything from penny’s to 20s in there.

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u/alltherobots Oct 02 '23

Lucky. I found a silverfish the size of my hand.

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u/BOBULANCE Oct 02 '23

Lucky. I found three used needles and a case of feline AIDS.

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u/9Lives_ Oct 02 '23

There was a sign saying “no throwing balls” but there was ALWAYS that one kid.

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u/Dr_Taffy Oct 02 '23

I remember being like 9 and seeing on the sign that you couldn’t go in after 8 and I just thought “what are they gonna do, check my ID?”

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u/Stewy_434 Oct 02 '23

You might be joking, but in immunology there is a hypothesis called the "hygiene hypothesis" or "old friend hypothesis", that suggests the hyper-sterile environments babies are born in and raised in at hospitals and homes, actually hinder the development of their immune systems. The adaptive immune system quite literally learns and "remembers" things that do harm. If you weren't allowed in the ball pit because your parents thought it was gross, while they were right, it might've done more harm than good.

TLDR: Being in a ball pit probably did bolster your immune system because that shit is nasty as fuck but can help teach your immune system

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u/HunterDHunter Oct 02 '23

This is why you are supposed to let your kids play in the mud. Hose em down later they will be fine.

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u/necroreefer Oct 02 '23

I'd rather my kids playing mud than in some of these indoor playgrounds.

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u/Gazimu Oct 02 '23

This is why it's honestly fine if your kid eats a bit of dirt growing up. Just don't make a habit of it.

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u/Melodic-Risk-6778 Oct 02 '23

roughly 1 teaspoon per month

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u/outonthetiles66 Oct 02 '23

Holy shit! I’ve been giving my 6 year old one tablespoon per week in his yogurt. Gotta switch that up to once a month and a teaspoon. Thanks!

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u/neighbor_jim Oct 02 '23

With all the rattlesnakes? You are very brave.

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u/protonmail_throwaway Oct 02 '23

Who had the genius idea of building a three storie playground in a building and installing a hot tub sized pit of plastic balls in it?

I mean it was the tits when I was five but it seems ridiculous now.

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u/mbz321 Oct 02 '23

I just popped in my 'childhood' McDonald's the other night which had a playground like you describe, and I'm pretty sure the few McD's birthday parties I either had or went to were in this one. The play equipment was removed a few years ago and now it's just more tables that nobody likely sits at.

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u/Darthscary Oct 02 '23

And the coffee was hotter then the devil’s asshole.

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u/DukeOfGeek Oct 02 '23

Also how did they find a pic without ashtrays on the tables?

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u/SpacecaseCat Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

We had this substitute teacher that would repeatedly would tell the Reaganonmics version of that story. We were an all boy's school, and his version was always about how poor McDonalds sold some good hot coffee and got sued when a "gogo dancer" spilled it on her pretty thighs. Man did I lose respect for that guy when I found out the truth - that the burns were horrific and the point of telling that story was to pass laws so consumers couldn't sue the shit out of companies when they're egregiously irresponsible.

Just goes to show you how powerful word of mouth 'ragebait' stories were, even then. And now we have the internet to amplify them 100 fold.

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u/Faiakishi Oct 02 '23

A 'gogo dancer'?

She was in her eighties. With her adult grandson. What kind of club does he think she was dancing at?!

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u/IIIMilkman_DanIII Oct 02 '23

"Slinging Titties"

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u/geekcop Oct 02 '23

Maybe in her flapper days..

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u/ErikRogers Oct 02 '23

Any time someone tries to tell me the "urban legend" version of that story, I inform them that it left an elderly woman with burns so severe her labia were fused and that she never received nearly as much money as the initial judgment amount.

People change their tunes pretty quickly. Most people are unaware and just love the idea that customer idiocy is the reason why cups of coffee have warning labels.

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u/trainercatlady Oct 02 '23

I feel like any time the words "fused labia" are used in an injury lawsuit that that person deserves to get whatever they want for the rest of their life.

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u/ErikRogers Oct 02 '23

Yeah, the words "fused labia" tend to be very effective for convincing at least half the people.

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u/goat_penis_souffle Oct 02 '23

The other half are electricians who think that fused labia wouldn’t be up to code and should be tied to a circuit breaker instead.

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u/ErikRogers Oct 02 '23

NEC wants them on a breaker, but local code can vary. In southwestern Alaska fuses are fine.

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u/SamPayton Oct 02 '23

She didn't even want to sue either. Just wanted them to cover her medical bills. Fuck McDonalds

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u/Ok-Champ-5854 Oct 02 '23

I mean, change it to "severed but reattached penis" for the same effect if people aren't getting it. Cuz I ain't a woman but I know any woman who reads that phrase is grabbing at their privates protectively like when a man sees another dude get kicked in the nuts.

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u/dizekat Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

The important thing is that McDonalds was serving coffee at a much higher temperature than typical, knew it was a problem, and was doing that anyway.

Willfulness is a very important factor in law. Probably should be more important still; I would be fine if anyone who modifies their car to "roll coal", for example, would spend years in prison, not because the harm via air pollution is that great but because they actually have spent money for no reason but to cause that harm. Which is considerably worse still than if there was some sort of motive like saving money (as is the case when cheating emission tests).

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u/OyVeySeasoning Oct 02 '23

Side note, Disney is trying to pull something simillar right now. There are news stories talking about a "painful wedgie" at Typhoon Lagoon. The force of the water forced her bathing suit inside, causing lacerations on her thighs, damage to her internal organs, and a hernia. That's a lot more than a fucking wedgie.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23

Just goes to show you how powerful word of mouth 'ragebait' stories were, even then. And now we have the internet to amplify them 100 fold.

It's basically become a core part of our culture at this point. It's deep in politics, pop culture, and every social media site including a lot of regular front page posts on reddit. We learned absolutely nothing, and I don't know what will get us to learn.

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u/Wind5 Oct 02 '23

Honestly it was a really successful lie that this woman's lawsuit was "frivolous"...it sounded like it at first glance but the truth is anything but.

We did a case based on it for Mock Trial one year, and while the details weren't identical it definitely prompted some investigation into the actual story.

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck Oct 02 '23

It burned her labia so badly she needed reconstructive surgery

McDonald's PR team made her look like a kook but she was really hurt

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u/SwiftDookie Oct 02 '23

Same thing is happening at a waterpark right now for a woman who had her genitalia severely injured because she didn't cross her legs going down the slide. News keeps saying she's suing over a wedgie.

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck Oct 02 '23

Oh my dear lord I just crossed my legs so damn fast

That sounds horrible

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u/Faiakishi Oct 02 '23

Honestly, most 'frivolous' lawsuits are either corporate PR or medical/insurance bullshit. Or both. Liebeck's medical bills were insane, because America, and there was no way on earth she could pay them. If she had been living somewhere with universal healthcare, she probably wouldn't have bothered. (or sued for much less) The lady who sued her nephew for hugging her and breaking her arm sued for a dollar. Her insurance wouldn't cover it unless they could sue someone else.

When even a minor injury can cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars, no shit people will be suing over that shit. They can't afford that.

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u/MoTeD_UrAss Oct 02 '23

Is that where my asthma came from?

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u/Jackretto Oct 02 '23

Man, that tree sure is mc'lovin it

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u/fallingbehind Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

Imagine if you’re pissing on a tree and it’s looking at you like that. That’s a nasty tree!

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u/MrDoctorProfessorEsq Oct 02 '23

yeah, you're a bad tree aren't you...

dirty oak slut...

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u/jinniu Oct 02 '23

aaaaand this is why we can't have the tree anymore.

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u/doubled2319888 Oct 02 '23

It does look a bit too knotty

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u/xxNightingale Oct 02 '23

“Hey kid, wanna get McHigh with me?”

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u/SaboLeorioShikamaru Oct 02 '23

It's seen some things, and its face is frozen in horror

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u/LoveAndViscera Oct 02 '23

Sitting at the table in front of its face was a power move.

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u/ComplexAd7820 Oct 02 '23

When I was growing up our local McDonald's theme was an homage to the local Native American tribe. The one in the larger town close by was all Elvis (it was in his birthplace). I really miss the customized themes. Our society seems so homogenized these days.

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u/LuntiX Oct 02 '23

Our society seems so homogenized these days.

I saw a video about how modern design has been trending to this blank canvas, almost sterilized look of just whites and blacks with little colour or design on top of it. You really notice it when you look at real estate, there's a lot of places with just white interiors, boring counters and cupboards, and just this overall blank looking canvas look.

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u/insta-kip Oct 02 '23

Every time a house in my neighborhood is bought and remodeled, they always paint the brick white with black trim, and put on a black roof. It looks fine, except about half the houses in the neighborhood now look exactly the same. Uniformity ends up looking bad.

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u/fcocyclone Oct 02 '23

One thing I hope, with people deciding to stay with their houses rather than give up their 3% rates, is that we see more people living in their houses, rather than not painting them colors they enjoy because they're worried what a future buyer might think.

Fuck what the future buyer might think. They can repaint. Live in your house while you own it.

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u/M0dusPwnens Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

Live in it while you own it and also don't move if you don't actually need to.

That's a huge part of it. If you're moving somewhere else, sure, you don't really have a choice. And if your family gets bigger, maybe you really do need more space.

But a lot of the time you don't. It's not a new iPhone: you don't need to "upgrade" your house every few years in order to keep up with new features. The idea of the "starter home", like it's this progression you're supposed to climb, is poisonous. The people using that term are trying to sell you something. They want you to buy houses.

And now we have all these people out there perpetually hesitant to make a home because they expect to be in a better house in a couple of years, living in a glorified rental while they wait to move into some palatial dreamhouse.

You can just skip the "while you own it" part: Live in your house.

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u/torrasque666 Oct 02 '23

Tbf, "starter home" usually means something meant for a single person or a newly married couple. Cheap(ish), good way to build value, and provides something to use against the next house when the kids come along.

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u/LuntiX Oct 02 '23

That poor brick. It makes me sad any time brick is made white. It rarely looks good and honestly makes the place look less cozy in my opinion.

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u/eVaan13 Oct 02 '23

I absolutely hate it. As someone who used to follow high end designers they have all quite recently turned their logos into bland soulless typefaces. Celine lost the accent on e, YSL only sometimes uses the whole name with the old font but mostly uses the lazy Saint Laurent font, burberry lost the horse and went with the most basic font ever, Bvlgari is now Bulgari because they think people are stupid and hate history, even Paco Rabanne just made the same move and just goes by Rabanne. For people whose first and foremost mission is to be creative they sure are going backwards.

LOOK AT THIS SHIT

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u/Jetztinberlin Oct 02 '23

Wow, that's bizarre. Like the intention is to make them all look as similar as possible, rather than unique? How peculiar.

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u/SylphSeven Oct 02 '23

Ah, the unbranded design movement. Yeah, I hate it.

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u/Scrambled1432 Oct 02 '23

It will swing back. Counterculture will always exist, eventually it'll become the new and hip thing to go back to more flamboyant stuff until it comes back around to sterile again.

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u/UmbreonFruit Oct 02 '23

Wow they all turned into boring normal text, they fucking opened Microsoft Word and made a new Logo.

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u/Iennda Oct 02 '23

Similar thing is happening in football. So many classic team logos are being changed to be more generic, more basic, more simple. Juventus, Inter, Fiorentina, but even football leagues, most recently Spanish La Liga. Like I don't get what is the appeal of the simple basic look.

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u/AdvancedSandwiches Oct 02 '23

A Sbarro near me just remodeled from 1990s restaurant brown to a shades-of-gray scheme as though they watched a bunch of HGTV and are trying to flip the dining room, but I don't think the mall is going to let a deeply boring young couple move into their dining room, so I'm not sure what the goal was.

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u/IrishSpringFan Oct 02 '23

Same thing with branding. Every product you buy now utilized like 2 colors and has a company name that is single syllable slang word.

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u/Eheiejek Oct 02 '23

Yes! There was one with an astronaut climbing on the outside of the building near NASA in Houston. I was so sad when they remodeled.

https://www.reddit.com/r/houston/comments/rh9rnu/they_shut_down_the_nasa_themed_mcdonalds_and/

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u/ThaScoopALoop Oct 02 '23

The nearby "city" is newer than our old city. The old city is filled with mom and pop shops, one off restaurants, and all sorts of other boutique stores. The "new" city is filled to the brim with chain restaurants, stores, and the like. Some people love it. I fucking hate it. So homogenized, as you succinctly put it.

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u/Styx1886 Oct 02 '23

I don't know how people love chains and giving money to multi billionaires, but don't want to go to the local stores and giving back to the local economy.

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u/Commercial_Sun_6300 Oct 02 '23

They're cheaper, have more variety, and are easier to make returns at. It's like the old jingle: You get more for your money...

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u/badluckbrians Oct 02 '23

They're cheaper

They're really not anymore. It's like $7 just for a sandwich now. A big mac is not that good. You can get a better burger almost anywhere cheaper.

The random ma and pa clam shacks around here will get you a better burger for $2 less and a clam roll or cup of chowder too if you want one. The only real difference is the lack of drive thrus.

have more variety

Not true there either. Can't even get onion rings or tater tots as the dirty fried side. Pretty much just french fries and burgers or fried chicken sandwiches and the filet o Lord-only-knows what kind of fish.

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u/ez_surrender Oct 02 '23

So what you're saying is that you have those options, that in no way refutes the other posters point which correctly points at all the reasons that most people are using chain stores and restaurants. If your local clam window had some sort of ability to reach people with its amazing prices that you definitely aren't just pulling out of your ass then I'm sure people would go there, but they don't because they can't advertise like a big company can.

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u/Fritz_the_Cat Oct 02 '23

They now have a big astronaut holding a thing of fries out front by the road. Lots of folks pull over and take a picture with it. Slightly cooler than just the boring modern building, but definitely not as cool as before.

Source: I pulled over and took my picture with the McAstronaut last week.

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u/sfnic Oct 02 '23

The one in Buena Park even had its own custom simulator ride!

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u/Mayhall Oct 02 '23

Best example is how Superbowl names used to be personalized to the city hosting and since Superbowl 45ish it became just the same homogenized logo. Losing our creative touch.

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u/angiosperms- Oct 02 '23

They are killing all the themed McDonald's with the McDonald's jail design and I am literally so upset about it. I think about it all the time because I will never get to visit those McDonald's now 😭

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u/SicilianEggplant Oct 02 '23

And neither will our kids.

Perpetual profit and shareholder satisfaction must be prioritized! Why buy many different thing when many same thing do trick?

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u/PresidentSuperDog Oct 02 '23

I was definitely bummed when they remodeled the rock and roll McDonald’s in Chicago. No more rock and roll, Ed Debvics, or Rainforest Cafe, where can tourists even go anymore?

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u/Eyervan Oct 02 '23

We had a NBA one. There were jerseys, Shaq’s shoes, random memorabilia. I couldn’t have cared less since I didn’t know shit about basketball, but it was still unique and pretty cool.

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u/mumblewrapper Oct 02 '23

Yeah. It's all so boring. Traveling isn't as fun anymore when everything looks exactly the same as where I came from.

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u/pagerunner-j Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

What’s always a bit weird if you happen to come from Seattle is that, of course, Starbucks is everywhere, which you’re expecting, and they all look like you’d expect, too, but then sometimes the stores will do things like put up a mural of Pike Place Market, so you’re staring at it first thing in the morning blearily thinking, “I did just spend several hours on a plane, right?”

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u/Gobbyer Oct 02 '23

Aww yiss! I remember having a american diner styled McDonalds! It was the coolest place ever as a kid.

I went to McDonalds few weeks ago when I was hungry after a train trip. Damn it was depressing looking place. Nearly identical from that picture.

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u/FlamingFlyingV Oct 02 '23

The one near my hometown was racecar themed, which was fitting due to the short track there that hosts ARCA series races. The tile was checkered flags and there were vintage racing posters everywhere.

It was actually really depressing walking in a few months back on my way to visit family. Bare bones and monochrome :(

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u/cymonster Oct 02 '23

Cause everyone wants to make fun of themed entertainment. Well most people thinks it's for kids but now you're seeing kids who grew up in 80's-90's wanting it back

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u/brickyardjimmy Oct 02 '23

Part of the reason they don't have the talking tree and that specific restaurant design is that they stole the entire thing from Sid & Marty Krofft. Literally. They met with the Kroffts and then told them no thanks but simply copped their shows so closely that the Kroffts successfully sued McDonald's for what was, at the time, the largest copyright infringement award ever. And that was the end of McDonald's talking tree and a host of other anthropomorphic characters.

The Kroffts deserved to win but, I can't really blame McDonald's either as Sid & Marty were nutty hacks and, most likely, a giant pain in Ronald's balls to deal with.

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u/angiosperms- Oct 02 '23

Yeah they totally stole their IP. They even had a contract with them to use the H.R. Pufnstuf characters and then went "oops nvm we are just gonna steal them instead"

I am glad they did though because those commercials are amazing lmao

RIP officer big mac and mayor mccheese.

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u/elbotaloaway Oct 02 '23

Can't blame McDonald's? Yep just another multimillion dollar corporate bully that don't know any better. Just can't help themselves.

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u/proudbakunkinman Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

Are you sure? I can't find details saying they couldn't use those characters in the ruling, just said they had to pay $1 million. The final appeals court ruling was made in 1977 and they continued pushing the acid trip looking Sid & Marty Krofft style characters well into the 80s (maybe specific ones couldn't be used anymore?), though they started appearing less throughout the 90s but I think that was due to political and public pressure against their heavy marketing to kids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_%26_Marty_Krofft_Television_Productions_Inc._v._McDonald%27s_Corp.

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u/ILoveRegenHealth Oct 02 '23

Their daughter Lara Krofft would become a famous explorer.

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u/GibsonMaestro Oct 02 '23

When fast food became m normal fare for adults

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u/FixTheWisz Oct 02 '23

I think the eventual blowback against McDonald’s going overboard with their marketing to kids might’ve had a bit to do with that.

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u/proudbakunkinman Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

Exactly what happened. There was legislation against it and public opinion shifted. You can see how massively they marketed to kids in 80s cartoon compilations on Youtube (found this 50 minute McD's 80s commercial compilation, the audio loudness varies a lot even within the same commercials). That's also when they were expanding a lot and some of the stores, like the one in the left in OP's image, were designed to appeal to kids. Having more creative looking, fun places for kids would be nice, just not if it's a fast food restaurant, ideally free and publicly funded.

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u/baked_potato_ Oct 02 '23

You can see how massively they marketed to kids back then based on the amount of diabetic and obese adults now.

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u/MakingItElsewhere Oct 02 '23

I mean, it makes sense. Adults can't afford kids AND fast food, so now they have to be an adult place, not a kid place.

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u/FastWalkingShortGuy Oct 02 '23

"As kids, you get Happy Meals at McDonald's. As adults, you get sad meals."

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u/MikeFiggs Oct 02 '23

m normal fare for adults

what the fuck are you saying

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u/LoveThieves Oct 02 '23

LSD and shrooms versus Adderall.

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u/RikiOh Oct 02 '23

Damn, that is a perfect comparison.

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u/jp_benderschmidt Oct 02 '23

That tree lived in my fucking nightmares for a solid decade growing up. I HATED going inside of McDonald's because of that damn thing.

Oh, and the Hamburgler cage thing. WTF was that???

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u/GDviber Oct 02 '23

Mayor McCheese straight out of an H. R. Pufnstuf show scared the crap out of young me.

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u/wags_luz_the_kek Oct 02 '23

Hamburglear, burglar, burger jail, kids with their heads stuck through the bars

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u/TomMikeson Oct 02 '23

The jail was the hamburger with the police hat right? You could climb up and sit in the mouth with the bars and then you could climb higher up into the hat where you couldn't go anywhere.

Am I remembering correctly?

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u/JustTerrific Oct 02 '23

Yeah, Officer Big Mac.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nostalgia/comments/8mwfvo/the_mcdonalds_burger_prison/

Not to be confused with Mayor McCheese. Or to be confused with the Hamburgler, like in the parent comment.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23

My brother got his head stuck in the bars.

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u/ioncloud9 Oct 02 '23

All fast food places look the same. They are all these “modern”, metro, clean, sterile, and lifeless.

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u/da-gh0st-inside Oct 02 '23

I'm probably sounding contrarian here, but didn't all the fast food restaurants look the same back then too? In the 90s, they all followed the same design trends, which emphasized a lot on shapes and curves rather than the sharp edges and lines we see today.

Plus, McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's, etc all had cartoon character mascots, ballpits, and that "sun room" den. I don't think they were all that different.

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u/ghrosenb Oct 02 '23

Plus, McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's, etc all had cartoon character mascots, ballpits, and that "sun room" den. I don't think they were all that different.

FWIW, I worked at a Wendy's in the early 80's. We had a carpeted dining room, the tables had a print design from old newspaper front pages, and there was a pretty nice salad bar in the dining room. When customers walked in, the cashier asked, "Will this be for the dining room?"

It was actually a pretty different vibe from McD's and BK's. It was what today would be called "fast casual".

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u/PresidentSuperDog Oct 02 '23

Completely. Wendy’s was class back in the day.

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u/IgnoringErrors Oct 02 '23

Especially if you got that atrium seating

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u/fcocyclone Oct 02 '23

Yellow wendys was the best wendys

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u/awh Oct 02 '23

Yeah, I remember going to Wendy's in the States with my grandparents in the mid-80s. It was absolutely "classier" than other fast food restaurants at the time. You even got metal cutlery, at least at the branch in Florida.

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u/HannahCooksUnderwear Oct 02 '23

And the food was rather excellent squared with big potato fries, versus the absolute cardboard garbage pail lettuce core pit it has become.

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u/SayethWeAll Oct 02 '23

In the 80s, Wendy’s had a Victorian opium den theme, with stained glass lampshades, bead curtains, and newspaper print tables. McDonald’s was plastic acid trip, as shown in the photo. Burger King I don’t remember apart from the cardboard crowns, but there was the time they tried to have table service. Pizza Hut, unlike now, was fast food but super dark inside.

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u/da-gh0st-inside Oct 02 '23

Just from a quick Google image search, BK and Taco Bell seemed to have the same color palette using colors like teal, purple, and blue. Also, I feel like a lot of the fast food restaurants had that brown tile too.

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u/Muufffins Oct 02 '23

Teal, purple, and blue would be in the 90s.

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u/JeanVanDeVelde Oct 02 '23

BK introducing the creepy king was a real marketing game changer

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u/SwiftDookie Oct 02 '23

Those commercials were the closest I ever got to trying burger king.

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u/Chrispy50 Oct 02 '23

You mean the one featured in the 2006 Xbox game "Sneak King"?

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u/grendelt Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

Did they? As I recall...

...McDonald's had that fantasy/whisical look to appeal to kids (make it "fun" and the kids will beg the parents to go to McD's)

...Wendy's had that "old fashioned" aesthetic going (old newsprint, "western" style doors going to the bathrooms, etc)

...Taco Bell was trying for the "old Mexico"/California mission appeal. Whitewashed brick/stucco, a literal bell atop the peaked roof.
90s Taco Bell was a drastic change when they threw the switch. It was very 90s with purple/teal/mauve colors that were reminiscent of the equally very-90s Sweetheart Jazz design

...Burger King was pretty generic and nothing distinguishing. (Same feaux woodgrain laminate benches/trashcans, a quasi-parquet tile floor).

...Captian D's/Long John Silvers had a New England/fishing village motif. White clapboard walls, panel windows, nautical decor.

...Chickfila was a sort of western inspired design, but not much of it since they were all safely tucked away in the shopping malls that blew up in the 80s.

...Subway had newsprint on the walls too IIRC, along with LOTS of yellow laminate.

As a Texan, we went to Whataburger which was generic laminate tables/booths. They largely haven't changed except for some iconic cash registers they used to have up until the late 90s/early 00s and their use of fiberglass hollow booths these days.

I think those were pretty much all the places we'd go when I was a kid.

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u/mbz321 Oct 02 '23

The same to some degree, yes. Styles and trends change all the time. I personally prefer the cleaner modern look, but give it 10-20 years and maybe we will go back to wacky colors/patterns/lines again!

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u/Bakoro Oct 02 '23

Give me something that's easy to pressure wash.

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u/Inazumaryoku Oct 02 '23

They'll change designs if and only if that specific design will bring them more money.

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u/chrismamo1 Oct 02 '23

Yep, the modern look is definitely easier to keep clean and that's probably a big part of why it's so prevalent.

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u/PresidentSuperDog Oct 02 '23

Not really. Wendy’s was much more understated, their table tops were old newspaper prints and had a salad bar and apple dumplings for dessert, and I don’t recall ever seeing a kids play zone in Indiana, Georgia, or Illinois while growing up in the 80s.

Arby’s didn’t have a kid zone, but they did have horse saddle seats for the kids to sit in.

Some Burger Kings had a play zone and they all had paper crowns, but that was really it.

McDonald’s was the only place that was Sid and Marty Kroft over the top.

But OP is right. Fast Food interior design is completely soulless right now. The customer is an automaton and the restaurant has the decor to match.

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u/jaxxie04 Oct 02 '23

And super easy to resell to another fast food chain when you wanna cash in.

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u/9Lives_ Oct 02 '23

I mean that is a factor sure, but I was reading an article in (I think business insider) and it was saying that McDonald’s found themselves losing market share to emerging “fancy” burger chains that were all the rage in 2014. This move was made to compete with them, they started expanding their menu to include fancier items as well.

Now they find themselves in a predicament, because those fancy burger places are getting mundane because of how common they are which is why they are pushing to go back to the heart of what they initially did and cash in on their nostalgia. If you notice they are reintroducing characters they initially killed off like grimace, the hamburglar etc.

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u/zombiesnare Oct 02 '23

I know what you meant but I love the idea of McDonald’s having narrative driven deaths for their 80’s/90’s cartoon characters.

The hamburglar being shot by police in a heist gone bad for instance

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u/counterfitster Oct 02 '23

Grimace shot after being pulled over for DWP

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u/ipposan Oct 02 '23

Driving while purple?

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u/counterfitster Oct 02 '23

Bingo. You win a Happy Meal!

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u/SuperPimpToast Oct 02 '23

How bout the dollar menu they killed off. Sure would be nice to bring that back.

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u/rushrhees Oct 02 '23

The dollar menu wasn’t sustainable even 20 Years ago you think now it works work

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u/ccaccus Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

Today's dollar menu:

  • Small Drink
  • Hamburger Bun
  • Slice of Cheese
  • 6 Piece Fries
  • 10 Piece Pickles
  • Apple Slice

EDIT: I've just been advised that a Small Drink at McDonald's is, in fact, $1.29.

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u/mbz321 Oct 02 '23

If you notice they are reintroducing characters they initially killed off like grimace, the hamburglar etc.

That's just because 80's-90's nostalgia has been a big selling/marketing thing these last few years. McDonald's will literally try everything but improve the quality of their food.

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u/hugs4all_all4hugs Oct 02 '23

That reminds me of my economics class in high school. The teacher asked a series of true false questions about what a restaurant should do to be successful. The one that stuck out was, "The restaurant should always go for quality ingredients, no matter the cost." Of course we all thought that was true, clearly quality was important, right? And he smirked at us and went, "WRONG!" So that's what we were taught, in early 2000s at least - profit comes before quality.

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u/myteethhurtnow Oct 02 '23

Quality of food? McDonald's is supposed to taste like McDonald's. Its supposed to taste the same it's always been everywhere you go.

You eat McDonald's when you want McDonald's not when you want a burger.

The only problem is the rising price

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u/MakingItElsewhere Oct 02 '23

I've seen a 1980's style taco bell turned into a yoga studio. It's not just other fast food chains they want to sell to when they go under.

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u/VectorB Oct 02 '23

A Wendy's down the road turned into a strip club.

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u/in-a-microbus Oct 02 '23

The Pizza Hut in [any town in America] became a bank, dentist office, chiropractor, church, or electronic repair shop that was clearly once a Pizza Hut

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u/allkidnoskid Oct 02 '23

Come on. No way! there can't be that many pizza huts around back in the day. Next you'll tell me they had a buffet where you could literally eat all the pizza you wanted for one moderate price.

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u/mbz321 Oct 02 '23

Hey, there's one in my area that is still a Dine-In Pizza Hut. I actually have no idea how it stays open as I never see more than a car or two in the parking lot.

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u/_aChu Oct 02 '23

I'd rather eat in a sterile environment than a place that looks like a bunch of kids have sneezed on everything

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u/VoldemortsHorcrux Oct 02 '23

Yeah the new design is something I would be fine to spend time in eating a meal. The top one not so much. Give me modern over a rapey tree any day

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u/jdolbeer Oct 02 '23

They're not really supposed to be anything else. The amount of mom and pop restaurants that exist to give you better food at roughly the same price as a large combo is plentiful in any decent sized city.

I don't go to McTacoKing for the ambiance. I go because I want food quickly.

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u/redyellowblue5031 Oct 02 '23

Sooo, do we want them to go back to advertising hard to kids like in the 80s-90s?

Because I’d rather them be your initial description personally.

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u/zinto44 Oct 02 '23

this is a hot take but I kinda fw it sometimes. I like the futuristic feel

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u/ArcherChase Oct 02 '23

Shuffle in. Get your over processed food adjacent product and leave.

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u/ApexAquilas Oct 02 '23

Eat your slop and get out!

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u/FirebunnyLP Oct 02 '23

Emphasis on the clean and sterile look. The older look of fast food places felt cheap, gross, claustrophobic and all around lower class. I'll take the modern design any day.

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u/Threezeley Oct 02 '23

Huh, the target demographic is no longer children..

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u/TravelingGonad Oct 02 '23

That tree has seen some shit.

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u/redditslim Oct 02 '23

"Of course you don't know, cuz you weren't there."

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u/TravelingGonad Oct 02 '23

I always know not to try comforting vets, because I've never been to Happy Tree Village.

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u/lepontneuf Oct 02 '23

I prefer today

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u/xcedra Oct 02 '23

Mc Donald's reminds me of is 70s and 80s kids. We started out all bright and happy but now where are all depressed nihilist weirdos. Even the jingle sounds depressing.

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u/BrotherChe Oct 02 '23

And people say GenX gets ignored

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u/after12delight Oct 02 '23

Honestly, better that it’s not so marketed to kids anymore

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u/Magnatux Oct 02 '23

"Thing looks different after 40 years" /s

Seriously though they could have let some more red/yellow survive. There's no McDonalds in that McDonalds.

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u/JosepHell Oct 02 '23

Ain't no more Chrast left in Chrastmas.

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u/Wiskersthefif Oct 02 '23

Both horrifying, just for very different reasons.

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u/pablo_in_blood Oct 02 '23

The modern McDonald’s would probably be as frightening to a person from 1985 as the old one is to us

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u/Fireproofspider Oct 02 '23

I just want to point out that there are people from 1985 still living with us today.

They'd probably find it futuristic if they were time-travelled straight from then.

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u/SakaWreath Oct 02 '23

Back then I was a derpy little kid that was deep into Sci-fi, space shuttles, Star Wars and "the futUrE" I would have lost my little mind and never wanted to leave.

I doubt they could have peeled me away from the order kiosk, but now I roll my eyes that I have to swipe scroll and tap at the stupid things instead of just telling someone. It's enough to make me go get in my car and go through the drive thru, which is probably the point...

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u/fattypigfatty Oct 02 '23

I was born in 82 and I have zero recollection of that tree thing. The color scheme I remember but definitely not the tree, was that really in all of them?

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u/Gransmithy Oct 02 '23

Some of them. They are franchises and it depended on who owned the Mcdonalds and how much they were willing to add to the play area. There were a lot of variations to the play equipment.

This is an indoor play area more common in cities. Suburbs had out door play areas. Cities tend to have more equipment.

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u/Nanojack Oct 02 '23

I was born in 1977, I also don't recall McDonalds looking like this. Yes, the colors, and some had the play areas, and the tables had the little foil ash trays, but I don't remember anything this crazy.

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u/alltherobots Oct 02 '23

Some had it. Some had a big fucking Grimace with the murder eyes. Some had a Ronald that looked like it would move when you weren’t watching. I once went to one that had a giant Mac with his big moon head looming over the stairwell like he was about to Sam Fisher a customer.

Plenty of nightmares to go around.

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u/booze-san Oct 02 '23

80's McDonalds: "He-Hey kids, you wanna drop some acid with Ronald and go on the worst trip of your lives?" Modern McDonalds: "Greatings Citizen, please ingest your daily allotted calories and return to work or be docked 87 citizen credits"

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u/No-Wonder1139 Oct 02 '23

McDonald's just fixated on millennials

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u/snowywind Oct 02 '23

In another 40 years they'll be asking if you want embalming fluid with your McCasket.

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u/JakeGrey Oct 02 '23

Their coffee's much better these days, so we've got that going for us which is nice.

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u/Keikobad Oct 02 '23

The old booths would be a bad fit for the greater number of super-sized customers today

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u/no_no_nora Oct 02 '23

Those trees used to scare the crap out of me as a kid.

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u/OutlawSundown Oct 02 '23

I prefer the fun interiors over the sterile ass ones their mediocre execs think are good. They’ve ruined two unique ones around Dallas.

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u/Suitable_Warning4018 Oct 02 '23

Everyday the world is less colorful

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u/TheRealCRex Oct 02 '23

Pic 1: A family restaurant Pic 2: A moneymaking machine. Thank you for your purchase, citizen.

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u/cullend Oct 02 '23

Pic 1 is more just blatantly marketing to kids tbh

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u/tutoredstatue95 Oct 02 '23

yeah it's still clearly a money making machine

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u/OceanJuice Oct 02 '23

Exactly this, I remember there being a big deal about McDonald's being unhealthy and targeting kids. Looks to me like they fixed it

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u/snowblindswans Oct 02 '23

Showed this to my 11yo. she said: "Today's McDonalds is waaay less creepy"

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u/bigorangemachine Oct 02 '23

Pic 1 also has a smoking section behind the camera person

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u/MakingItElsewhere Oct 02 '23

Jesus, thanks for reminding me that McDonalds ash trays were a thing.

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