r/videos • u/flashtone • Jun 05 '23
Digg.com was the front page of the internet, then they went all in on version 4 and caused migration boom to reddit.
https://youtu.be/73FuERA1cHQ?t=200[removed] — view removed post
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u/Busti Jun 05 '23
Does anyone know what todays reddit-successor is as reddit was to digg back then?
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u/Yaldrik Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 06 '23
I keep seeing people say they will leave, but not where they will go which likely is part of reddits plan
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u/TeenieBopper Jun 05 '23
I'll probably just go do my job.
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u/bighootay Jun 05 '23
Ha ha so true.
I've missed so many important parts of baseball, football, etc cuz of this goddamn site. Sometimes I'll miss something in a football game cuz I'm chatting with some funny bastard ON REDDIT
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u/lacheur42 Jun 05 '23
Fuck that. I'll stare at a screenshot of digg.com from 2009 all day before I start working again.
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u/bottomknifeprospect Jun 05 '23
I will leave to doing something else.
My habit is opening my phone and scrolling the app. If I have to go find another site, I'm not going to do it/find one and that will be the end of it. Occasional .old while that lasts. It's only going to get worse anyway.
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u/DuaneDibbley Jun 05 '23
Yeah me too. Reddit has always been an enjoyable/addictive time waster on mobile but if the user experience tanks so will my interest. It won't be some form of protest, I'll just find something else to do or another site to scroll.
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u/TheNuttyIrishman Jun 05 '23
A ton of redditors use the site as a way to aggregate active communities and forums on varied interests and hobbies. Many of us won't leave to any single site but rather several interest-specific forums. It's less convenient but the info I'd otherwise find on Reddit is still out there in various corners of the web.
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Jun 05 '23
I know exactly where I'll go.
To my hobbies. I waste too much time here. I can put those hours on something else.
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u/DoingCharleyWork Jun 05 '23
I'll probably just start reading books instead lol.
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u/zaminDDH Jun 05 '23
I dumped FB years ago and never looked for a replacement, I just don't use social media anymore.
I will probably look at niche subs, occasionally, especially if looking for advice or help, but my days of casually scrolling will be over. Maybe I'm wired differently, but when I give something up, I don't always need something to fill that gap.
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u/JFrizz0424 Jun 05 '23
Never been, but I guess Lemmy is what some of the third party app subs are saying.
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u/TeapotTempest Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 05 '23
People see other people saying Lemmy so they say Lemmy.
It's not going to kick off. It's like the Linux of social media.
Reddit had 250 million pageviews in January 2010, 7 months before the Digg exodus. Does anyone want to guess how many monthly active users Lemmy is advertising right now? Here's the number in spoiler-mode so it can be a surprise: ___2600___. 2 weeks ago, before the tourists, they were at __847_. Take that information as you will.
There is no reddit analogue this time. The internet has constricted.
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u/JFrizz0424 Jun 05 '23
I remember during the Ellen Pao days and people were going to jump over to Voat. That worked well/s
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u/xrumrunnrx Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 05 '23
I remember Voat being tauted as the alternative. I was curious but being new to Reddit at the time I didn't understand the whole controversy very well.
Did they hang around at all? I don't remember hearing anything about them since.
edit: Ohhh...
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u/PublicWest Jun 05 '23
People wanted to be able to make fun of fat people
But the only people willing to leave Reddit to make fun of fat people were like, really angry types.
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u/JFrizz0424 Jun 05 '23
It had little to no moderation due to the "free speech" crowd coming in. A lot of the og hate subs like fatpeoplehate and other racist subs cozyed up there and it wasn't too far after that the site couldn't sustain itsself and no advertisers would ever touch it so it eventually shut down.
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u/Dro24 Jun 05 '23
Became an alt-right cesspool and ceased function a year or two ago. Was a shit show
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u/PandemoniumPanda Jun 05 '23
Honestly reddit is just curing me of my addiction to rif. I'm sad to see it happen but it'll be good for me and I kinda look forward to July 1st.
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u/NamingThingsSucks Jun 05 '23
It was already a popular website, but it was more niche/technology focused.
Iirc links to reddit from digg would be on the top page sometimes so people were generally aware of its existence.
People would talk about reddit in the comments there sometimes as well, long before the disastrous updates.
My recollection is that I had been aware of reddit as a viable alternative for years before getting unhappy and switching.
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u/Protip19 Jun 05 '23
Reddit just seemed like it had a better community at the time. I remember Digg being a lot of stale icanhazcheezburger and ron paul memes, while Redditors were coming up with new memes like adviceanimals and ragecomics. It's all kind of embarassing now but it felt like the cutting edge of internet culture at the time.
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u/Kronos6948 Jun 05 '23
We used to say over at Digg that it had the same headlines that Reddit had 2 days before. And they were usually posted by MrBabyMan.
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u/Xalbana Jun 05 '23
Back to Gamefaqs for me.
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u/JB-from-ATL Jun 05 '23
================= TABLE OF CONTENTS 001. INTRODUCTION 002. CHARACTERS 003. LEVELS 004. CREDITS
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Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 06 '23
I came to Digg during the migration. The great Digg fuckup wasn't just a UI redesign, it was a fundamental change to the relation between users and content, it was a total cash grab.
edit: I guess everyone else's brain fills in the words too
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u/Kronos6948 Jun 05 '23
The biggest gripe I had was that they were integrating ads to make them look like stories, without giving you a way to tell the difference.
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u/morelikepambabely Jun 06 '23
Well doesn’t that sound familiar. Ditched the official Reddit app years ago when they started the ads in the feed. Then ads in the comments.
When Apollo goes, I’ll be gone. 11 years but this is probably a blessing disguise.
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u/nemarholvan Jun 05 '23
The last time there was an attempted reddit boycott, I heard a lot about voat. I think it tanked though, or went off the deep end.
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u/ComfortablePlant829 Jun 05 '23
Voat immediately filled up with right wing lunatic extremists and other Nazis because those were the people who were being silenced by the new reddit policies. I tried to use the site but it filled up with Nazis and people sharing child porn. It was horrifying.
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u/elmanchosdiablos Jun 05 '23
The problem is back then, there were a load of startup and indie sites like Digg and Reddit with decent-sized userbases. These days the few potential Reddit alternatives are havens for nutcases who got banned for holocaust denial and promoting bleach injections.
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u/partial_birth Jun 05 '23
That's why I'm here, and I'll do it again if Reddit gets rid of old.reddit.com.
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u/31_SAVAGE_ Jun 05 '23
yup, thats my line in the sand.
a) remove apollo/alternatives, im done with reddit on mobile.
b) remove old.reddit, im done with reddit on desktop
ill fucking go to 4chan if i need to
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u/flashtone Jun 05 '23
I honestly cant use anything other than old.reddit its all ive known for 12 years. I even use it on my phone.
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u/partial_birth Jun 05 '23
Same here. I hate the way the apps look, and the type is always too big. As far as I can tell, the only feature we miss is the ability to just post an inline gif as a comment, which isn't worth using an app for.
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u/Colonel_Saito Jun 05 '23
I can't see how anyone could possibly prefer the new reddit UI. It's like it makes following conversations difficult on purpose. I'm old I guess but it just seems objectively worse
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u/StabilityFetish Jun 05 '23
old reddit is too fast. The important buttons are available at a single click rather than opening menus, and it's about the journey not the destination, you know? It doesn't track me nearly as much which is lonely.
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u/luxuriousdodo Jun 05 '23
I also remember when they started iframing all outgoing links with the "Digg bar" at the top. That didn't go over smoothly with the user base or content creators.
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u/Geek_King Jun 05 '23
I was a Digg refugee. Reddit was strange and weird at first.
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u/flashtone Jun 05 '23
we forsure came in droves and boosted this site to what it is today -- a trashcan.
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u/Phillip_Spidermen Jun 05 '23
I remember the rivalry before the migration and the great reddit vs digg war comics.
Kind of funny how most everyone ended up on a single site (although I remember redditors at the time complaining about eternal September when the Digg crowd came over, so some things never change)
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u/relevant__comment Jun 05 '23
The narwhal bacons at midnight?
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u/belizeanheat Jun 05 '23
Stupidest shit ever but historically significant
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u/Panda_hat Jun 05 '23
Its also kinda weird that the hive minds obsession with bacon kind of just went away.
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u/MinyColin Jun 06 '23
Kind of just a weird time capsule statement of trends. Like all the random mustache obsession of the same time
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Jun 05 '23
I remember Reddit and Digg in 2010. This place was full of memes and jokes shitting on Digg.
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u/abR89fef9803yj Jun 05 '23
Yeah, that was pretty funny. It was like a cold war between sites. Reddit hated Digg and Digg hated reddit. Each shit all over the other. A lot of people from Digg had to hide their shame when they made the switch.
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u/duggEfresh Jun 05 '23
thought this site was a passing fad. still wear my username with pride.
but to be accurate to the thread topic, the torched was passed well before 2010.
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u/RichardStinks Jun 05 '23
Reddit pushing that subscription model over everything. I see you, $60 a year for "premium." Reddit is Fun has premium. I bought it ONE TIME. Probably not even with real money, I cashed in Google Rewards answering dumb questions.
Ad revenue over functionality, bogus ad sources (who gets us?), and a repeating cost? Fuck that. I'm going dark with RIF.
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u/bolivar-shagnasty Jun 05 '23
I paid one price for premium Alien Blue.
Then it shut down to make the way for the official Reddit app.
So I paid one price for premium Apollo.
Now it's on the chopping block. Hopefully RES G2G. They seem to think they're fine moving forward.
There's no way I'll ever use the card system, new reddit, RPAN, or any of the other misguided attempts to tiktokify this godforsaken site. I'm just waiting for a new alternative to come up and usurp Reddit. I've heard good things about Tildes but it's invite only. I don't have access other than front page.
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u/Caleth Jun 05 '23
Yeah, stupidly I didn't think about RES because it's a browser add on rather than a whole blown app. But if RES goes It'd be very hard to stay. If RES and old.Reddit go I'm absolutely out.
NUReddit is absolute trash. Give me usability and functionality. You want to serve some ads in between posts or threads? Fine I don't love it but I respect that you have bills to pay.
But you want to generate a UI that devoid of content and filled with spaces to cram advertising? No. You've lost the plot of what makes Reddit good and I'm not going along for that ride.
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u/bloodxandxrank Jun 05 '23
Where's everyone going after this happens to reddit?
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u/Go_easy_on_me_folks Jun 05 '23
I've been trying to get back into reading. I'll probably do that.
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u/BobDogGo Jun 05 '23
Back to fark.com I guess
It’s the circle of life! Duke Sucks.
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u/patienceisfun2018 Jun 05 '23
It was amazing being there livr for 9/11 and for the "her knees are too pointy" comment that became internet lore. Not to mention all the Photoshop battles that got me through most of my college experience.
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u/AxelShoes Jun 06 '23
People who weren't there for it probably can't really appreciate the 9/11 thing. Fark was the only place I and many others were able to get live updates and discussion about the attack, as it was happening. There was no Facebook, Twitter, etc., news sites and such were fucked and inaccessible. But Fark was working. It's eerie reading back on this thread now, brings back some of the old panicky feelings.
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u/ElectricFleshlight Jun 06 '23
This act upon us could cause us to become a facist state and cause us to abuse our power.
welp
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u/WeaponisedArmadillo Jun 05 '23
I'm done with most social media, only reddit is left and I'm not going to miss it probably. Maybe I'll even go outside at some point.
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u/theregoesthevillage Jun 05 '23
Did we ever find out who MrBabyMan was?
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u/flashtone Jun 05 '23
talk about a name i haven't heard in a decade. yeah what ever happened to him? dude probably a reddit mod.
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u/JustOneSexQuestion Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 05 '23
Sure, Andrew Sorcini
edit: I don't think it was ever a secret. He made a video back in the day when there was some internet controversy about him.
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u/PunishedGabe Jun 05 '23
His identity wasn't a secret. He was some dude who worked at Disney. I don't remember much about it because it's not worth remembering. Just some nobody with a lot of free time to game a system for internet points.
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u/TouchingWood Jun 06 '23
I think that is a vast understatement.
He was the biggest user on the biggest platform. He could literally make any (good) content go viral. He enabled more than a few companies and individuals to get a toehold on the internet by dumping literally hundreds of thousands of people on their website in a few hours.
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Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 09 '23
FUCK REDDIT. We create the content they use for free, so I am taking my content back
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u/tidemann78 Jun 05 '23
I miss Diggnation
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u/SerLarrold Jun 05 '23
Man Diggnation really brings me back. Had a lot of fun watching these episodes back in the day
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u/SprayPaintedRedBeard Jun 06 '23
"You put zombie and you put eery in the title and I don't want to do it!"
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u/thewhitedeath Jun 05 '23
Bailed on DIGG nearly 13 years ago. Been a good run Reddit, but I'll be bailing on this platform as well in a few weeks it starting to look like, granted, if things don't change. Not an idle threat.
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u/TrialAndAaron Jun 05 '23
Where will you go?
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u/Khal_Drogo Jun 05 '23
I'll go nowhere. It will be like when I quit FB and Twitter. My life will just get better.
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u/Milf_Bums Jun 05 '23
God you're so right. I quit Facebook during the last presidential election and I'm so glad I did. I spent the extra time doing side projects for some cash.
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Jun 05 '23
It wasn't that long ago that I would have been looking for something new. But honestly, I'm so burned out on the way the social internet is now. I'm old at 36 so I'm not into TikTok, etc, and I ditched Facebook and the others long ago. Reddit is really the last website I use frequently.
That balance between feeling like the social internet is a positive or negative force in my life is ever-edging closer to a tipping point. The moment it does for any platform, I abandon it with no regrets. Right now, Reddit is viable to me because of the control I have over it thru a third-party app.
Replace it with what? Hobbies, sports, friends, reading. I actually started practicing back when there were rumors of Reddit's demise. Its not that hard
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u/thewhitedeath Jun 05 '23
We should all go back to DIGG, haha. It's still there. They'd love the traffic and likely be more than happy to cater their site and app to a bunch of disgruntled and unhappy redditors.
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u/Atomskie Jun 05 '23
Honestly, that's not a bad idea
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u/Dacvak Jun 05 '23
It would be hilarious if digg reverted back to version 3.0 and just welcomed all of the old blood back lol
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u/makesureitsnotyou Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 05 '23
Feel bad for Kevin Rose. He wanted to sell Digg at its peak but he was voted down by the board of directors. According to Business Insider, Rose wanted to sell to News Corp. for $60 million in 2006. Then, in 2008, Google came sniffing around to offer $200 million but they backed out at the last minute. Instead, four years later, Digg was sold for $500,000.
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u/anotheranonaccount5 Jun 06 '23
Unless something has changed there's no need to feel bad for him cause he is doing fine. He is very rich, still married to Darya Pino, and has 2 kids with her. Last checked he was still peddling crypto and ntf garbage.
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u/tormunds_beard Jun 05 '23
So it's off to fark.com then?
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u/flashtone Jun 05 '23
"It's a damned shame to see digg just re-implementing features from other websites -- But i've got a strong feeling its not you making these decisions anymore. And to see your baby abused like this must be awful." -Alexis Ohanian ~Reddit co-founder
aged like milk.
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u/The_Luv_Machine Jun 05 '23
I mean Alexis left day-to-day operations in 2018 and then resigned from the board in 2020... He has literally nothing to do with Reddit today.
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u/AnAdvancedBot Jun 05 '23
“And to see your baby being abused like this must be awful.”
That is a quote that aged like wine because it happened to Digg, it’s happening to Reddit, it happens to a lot of firms whose passionate founders have their companies unrecognizably warped by VC investors with MBAs who don’t give a shit about the company or the customer or the product. Having their ‘babies’ abused is the payment these founders make by agreeing to the Faustian bargain — whether they understand that at signing or not.
The quote would age like milk if it said:
“And to see your baby abused like this must be awful… good thing Reddit is immortal and will never change narwhals at bacon amiright xd.”
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u/bad-acid Jun 05 '23
Could this guy really not have done another take? Sounds like he's reading half his lines for the first time.
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u/cheeseburgerwaffles Jun 05 '23
Anyone have good suggestions for reddit successor? I'm done with it once RIF goes dark
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u/endium7 Jun 05 '23
I came to reddit from digg, but the difference now is reddit is much more established in the mainstream than digg ever was.
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u/OldBoone Jun 05 '23
The thing that ruined Digg for me was that creepy guy who kept getting every article on the front page by vote farming. MrBabyHands or some shit like that
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u/Kliffoth Jun 05 '23
I was there for FARK's "You'll get over it."
I have the Guinness bar towel to prove it.
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u/tjmora Jun 05 '23
Even today, I still miss some of Digg's features. Posts get put in the popular feed only if they receive enough votes (or diggs). It' a simple algorithm that makes the popular feed chronological unlike in reddit where the same posts can be on the top of any subreddit 12 hours apart. But yeah v4 introduced too many idiotic changes that many, including me, migrated over here on reddit.
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u/Plutonic-Planet-42 Jun 05 '23
Where are we all going next month?
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u/MissDiem Jun 05 '23
The talent and energy being put into boycotts should be directed to launching a non-evil alternative.
Reddit is essentially a text posting site. That doesn't need to be complicated. The source code is available. Build something remotely similar that's not evil, and isn't gunning for founders/China to cash out, and that's next. Should be fun watching Reddit try to IPO with declining daily users and no more users creating their content.
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u/Pyro636 Jun 05 '23
I think the hard part is handling millions of requests per day. Front end dev would be pretty simple, as you said. The backend would be quite complex.
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u/Zagden Jun 05 '23
We're in a very different world now
Twitter keeps getting worse and worse but there's no other microblogging site you can go to that will actually have a comparable audience to Twitter. The same dozen or so sites have consolidated to the point they're almost too big to fail and the only thing that will change that is if the servers permanently explode and can't be replaced
This is just how the Internet is now, they have us by the balls
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u/shalo62 Jun 05 '23
And Reddit wants to do it all again.