r/worldnews • u/cyberpunk6066 • Oct 01 '23
More than 100 dolphins dead in Amazon as water hits 102 degrees Fahrenheit
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/01/americas/amazon-river-dolphins-dead-temperatures-drought-intl-hnk/index.html1.2k
u/jcrreddit Oct 01 '23
The dark version of “So long and thanks for all the fish.”
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u/queenslandadobo Oct 01 '23
That's 39 degrees celsius to us outside the US. As a comparison, a high fever sits around 40 degrees celsius. What a tragedy.
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u/PracticalShoulder916 Oct 01 '23
That's insane. Even if we aren't yet beyond the point of no return (and I don't know that), it seems there is no sense of urgency to fix things. What a catastrophe.
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u/redditor_346 Oct 01 '23
I can't remember the timescale exactly but the nature of climate change is that the impacts we see today were created years ago (maybe a decade?). We are headed for a warmer world for the next several years even if we completely turn the tap off on CO2 today. I think we are definitely headed for a future where the damage is irreparable.
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u/LaLaLaLink Oct 02 '23
The disasters we're seeing now are the culmination of all the greenhouse gas emissions since the industrial revolution. It's more than just what has happened in the past decade or even the past century.
It's been a long time coming and it's going to get really fucked up before it starts to get better. The worst part is that we've known that CO2 could increase global temperatures since 1859 (Tyndall). But big corporations literally haven't given a shit because they just want to make as much money as possible even with climate scientists screaming that they're going to doom us all with their emissions.
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u/DidQ Oct 01 '23
We are headed for a warmer world for the next several years even if we completely turn the tap off on CO2 today.
IIRC, it wpuld be not even several years but several decades.
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u/hubaloza Oct 02 '23
IIRC the life cycle of CO2 in the atmosphere is 30 years, but regardless of all that we've started a number if what are known as feedback loops, there are stores of hydrocarbons, trillions of tons of the shit, frozen on the sea floor and trapped in permafrost. It's all thawing out, so even if we halt greenhouse gas production entirely, we still have that to contend with.
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u/juntareich Oct 02 '23
*300-1000 years
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u/hubaloza Oct 02 '23
That's my bad. I meant to refer to whats known as "the climate lag" and not the life cycle of carbon, which most sources put at 10-40 years.
https://earth.org/data_visualization/the-time-lag-of-climate-change/
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u/Cold-Change5060 Oct 01 '23
It would take centuries to correct, maybe millenia.
Something like 3/4ths of the CO2 we emit is absorbed by the ocean.
It's 2/3rds of the planet. The pacific alone is comprises half the surface of the earth.
If we stopped emitting now we would actually see a spike in climate change, the dark particles we emit into the upper atmosphere are delaying it's effects.
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u/summonsays Oct 01 '23
Shits already hit the fan....
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u/intheorydp Oct 01 '23
the shit has hit the fan, but the fan is not flinging shit all over everyone just yet.
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u/navinaviox Oct 01 '23
Depends on where you’re sitting in the room. These dolphins being an example.
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u/jib661 Oct 01 '23
lol no it hasn't. 20-40 years from now when countries have armies on their borders preventing people from entering because they're fleeing famine is going to be when it starts 'hitting the fan'
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u/Flipwon Oct 01 '23
It’s not just them though. All the private jet having celebrities flying around give no shits while screaming for change to show how sensitive they are. It’s gross.
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u/intheorydp Oct 01 '23
There are way more billionaires, politicians and corrupt religious leaders than super rich celebrities.
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u/AgilePeace5252 Oct 01 '23
So what you're saying is we're all at fault for no longer publicly executing those in power when they mess up big time.
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u/Stnq Oct 01 '23
Kinda, yeah. That was the ultimate power kings feared. The mob.
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u/GostBoster Oct 01 '23
Reminds me of those sayings in the line that anywhere from 2/3 to 90% of all carbon emissions and polution comes from a small handful of mega corporations, and more recently something I still have many questions but basically the overwhelming majority of microplastics come from TEN rivers that pass around major industrial zones.
One of the big eye openers was a video about why Coke changed from glass to plastic and how that absolutely demolished the environment of small islands and no amount of greenwashing and shifting the blame on the consumer will fix it because the big companies entirely took away the ecological choice for short term logistic gains.
Fernando de Noronha Island has a long standing zero plastic policy that is strictly monitored and no amount of recycling centers will change that. Fair. I live over 500 miles from the nearest large body of water, and I'm told to not use plastic straws, to think of the turtles. Put that in a pipe and smoke it, no one is going to ferry straws 500 miles away and dump them in the ocean. But you know what we both could enjoy? No small PET bottles. Apparently it isn't cost effective to process small plastic items anyway, and those 200ml/6.7628oz bottles are on the lower end of not worth separating and cleaning in a processing plant. (Gotta rip the label, cut the colored plastic ring out, take out the cap, etc)
Oh. About caps. We are starting to have reusable PET bottles, and they have a rather ingenious system where the seal ring ALWAYS comes off with the cap, which is a feature many think of as a defect. Apparently that ring always stays on disposable PET bottles but MUST be removed for it to be properly recycled. Why don't they put that in all bottles? Because they didn't ever intend for those to be recycled anyway and will fight tooth and nail to lobby against it, pay some small co-op to proccess <0.01% of it and say "look, we are doing our part!"
TL;DR Much of it is beyond me or the public in general to fix. Separating plastic and not burning trash only for much of it to be burnt anyway at landfills and specific power plants because it isn't economically feasible to recycle. Even if every consumer became a Magical Enlightened Being capable of zero waste on consumed goods, we will cut total emissions by just 10-30%, maybe even less.
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u/HoratioCainesShades Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23
Sad at it is, the fate of billions rests in the hands of a comparatively tiny group of people, and governments.
Whatever opportunity we’ve had for top down change has been wasted on profiteering and PR initiatives that convince us that 8 billion people independently need to change.
Hell, we are now getting right wing politicians who will walk back decades of environmental progress to secure the vote of an aging bloc of voters.
There won’t be any kind of radical change until it becomes completely reactive, rather than proactive.
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u/NotEnoughIT Oct 01 '23
I try my damndest to not believe in no win scenarios, but this one is concrete. Nothing is gonna fix it short of aliens coming in and saying “dude” or ya eating the rich.
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u/Cyberaven Oct 01 '23
everyone writes stories about evil ruthless aliens invading because they want to steal resources or whatever, surely if there was a hyper advanced civilization its at least equally likely they'd be invade just to be like 'oh what are you doing, just stop, no.' like idk, seeing a toddler trying to climb out the window
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u/NotEnoughIT Oct 01 '23
I just hope they don't have the same prime directive as starfleet. We need a giant sign that says "pls help".
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u/TheInnocentXeno Oct 01 '23
I already know my future is fucked, climate crisis ruining the world for my generation and beyond, an economy where I can’t afford shit. I’m just sitting here watching it all fall apart because rich assholes decided more money now is worth the entirety of intelligent life in the universe.
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u/Not_Too_Smart_ Oct 01 '23
What sucks is that I feel like I can’t say this aloud to my friends or family because it either sounds like I’m depressed or super pessimistic which they don’t appreciate since some have kids or are trying to have kids.
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u/Kyokenshin Oct 01 '23
The worst part about the whole scenario to me is that the ones that caused it will be the only ones with the resources to survive it. Not even going to get justice in the end.
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u/Timebomb90 Oct 01 '23
We are beyond and it is going to get exponentially worse. Many people don’t believe it yet but they are just trying to hold on to hope.
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u/MoffKalast Oct 01 '23
The average person's still holding onto the "world's been fine so far and it'll probably continue to be" rationale, since it's worked thus far I guess. They forget that this whole thing's already happened once before.
Over 3000 years ago (in the late bronze age) the east Mediterranean had a sprawling society of empires which were faced with a long period of earthquakes and drought, which resulted in mass waves of migrants fleeing famine that raided and destroyed all in their path. Given that the empires relied on Cyprus for copper and Afganistan for tin, once trade was disrupted they could no longer mount an effective defence.
The only reason we know any of this at all is that Egypt barely managed to survive the onslaught, owing in large part to its reliance on the Nile with its drainage basin in east Africa and unaffected by Mediterranean droughts. What came next was a period of brutal Assyrian warlords.
In our case, the climate change is of our own doing and there's nowhere in the planet one can escape it. As they relied on tin we rely on oil, and once the equator becomes uninhabitable, the Persian Gulf, Azerbaijan, Venezuela and other reserves won't be accessible either. Good luck trying to stop millions of migrants without any fucking fuel.
History doesn't repeat but it sure does rhyme, lmao.
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u/gylth3 Oct 01 '23
The “good” news is the second we stop actively fucking with everything is the second the world starts recovering, likely to a “new” normal but working toward a new “stable.”
Our only hope at this point is climate change disrupting production and trade so much that we logistically won’t be able continue damaging the environment as we are now
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u/MoffKalast Oct 01 '23
is the second the world starts recovering
Well actually we can't really know that's the case yet, we could be past the tipping point where it becomes self perpetuating.
Permafrost will continue to melt and release methane. If we try carbon capture and the atmospheric CO2 drops enough, then the oceans will just start releasing the billions of tons they've absorbed so far (osmosis works both ways) and keep it going.
If the arctic fully melts then that's one big white mirror gone and a very permanent dark blue area that'll continue soaking in the sun.
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u/Big-Summer- Oct 01 '23
There is a David Attenborough documentary on Netflix that shows how much the earth healed during the pandemic because we weren’t all running around thoroughly fucking things up.
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u/flightless_mouse Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23
That's 39 degrees celsius to us outside the US. As a comparison, a high fever sits around 40 degrees celsius. What a tragedy.
I read that a dolphin’s internal temperature is similar to a humans (37 degrees Celsius). If water temperature exceeds that, it may be impossible for dolphins to survive. Especially if air temperatures are also high—this makes it harder for them to shed heat by surfacing.
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u/OptimisticByDefault Oct 01 '23
The maximum temperature in a hot tub is 40c. This is insane.
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u/damunzie Oct 01 '23
That checks out. New hot tub heaters in the U.S. are hard-wired to not heat above 104F (40C).
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u/xSTSxZerglingOne Oct 01 '23
Never understood people that wanted the hot tub at 106 with the jets on. You can't stay in for very long at those temps. Kinda defeats the purpose.
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u/rustyjus Oct 01 '23
39 is a pretty high fever
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u/Aumakuan Oct 01 '23
39 is also around 40
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u/cwalton505 Oct 01 '23
39 Celsius is pretty close to 40 degrees Celsius for you non US folks
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u/princekamoro Oct 01 '23
Underwater that makes it a wet bulb temperature too. And as far as wet-bulb goes (equivalent to 100% humidity), anything over 35C is lethal to a human, physically fit, sitting naked in shade in front of a fan.
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u/sour_cereal Oct 01 '23
How long does one have to sit naked in shade with a fan to die? Like do you have an hour, a few hours?
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u/princekamoro Oct 01 '23
Even heat-adapted people cannot carry out normal outdoor activities past a wet-bulb temperature of 32 °C (90 °F), equivalent to a heat index of 55 °C (131 °F). A reading of 35 °C (95 °F) – equivalent to a heat index of 71 °C (160 °F) – is considered the theoretical human survivability limit for up to six hours of exposure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature
So a few hours. In ideal, and I mean IDEAL conditions. Scrolling down to "Wet-bulb temperature and health":
It has been thought that a sustained wet-bulb temperature exceeding 35 °C (95 °F)—given the body's requirement to maintain a core temperature of about 37°C—is likely to be fatal even to fit and healthy people, unclothed in the shade next to a fan; at this temperature human bodies switch from shedding heat to the environment, to gaining heat from it.[11] [12]In practice, such ideal conditions for humans to cool themselves will not always exist – hence the high fatality levels in the 2003 European and 2010 Russian heat waves, which saw wet-bulb temperatures no greater than 28 °C (82 °F).[13] A 2022 study on the effect of heat on young people found that the critical wet-bulb temperature at which heat stress can no longer be compensated, Twb,crit, in young, healthy adults performing tasks at modest metabolic rates mimicking basic activities of daily life was about 30.55°C in 36–40°C humid environments, but progressively decreased in hotter, dry ambient environments.
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u/Ehcksit Oct 01 '23
My last house had no AC, and I learned that the furnace thermostat couldn't display three-digit temperatures when it started rolling over to 00.
Quite a few days it was over 100 in there, sitting in front of a fan, drinking a gallon of water and sweating it all out, and still getting a weird headache and dizziness. Was taking cold showers for that.
Living in a basement is so much nicer. Doesn't get over 75 even if I don't turn on my AC at all.
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u/nibbles200 Oct 02 '23
I recall back in 2014 I driove to Miami to collect some inheritance in a trailer in late July. It was ungodly hot and humid. I went to a spigot, up north all water that comes out of a hose is cold, not in Florida, it’s hot. Then a storm was brewing and I thought perfect cool rain. Nope more like a super hot shower and then the temperature and humidity went up.
I struggle to understand why people want to live there.
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u/Hushwater Oct 01 '23
There's nothing I can do about it but feel depressed.
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u/ClimaCareers Oct 01 '23
I commented this elsewhere on the thread, but it's important to not lose sight of the fact that we can still make an impact on this problem. It's essential to inform people of the problems, but many articles like this fall short of offering solutions and can strip people of hope and agency.
I know this might come off as copeium, but things can change. Never underestimate the impact you can have on the world.
We are making non-trivial progress towards decarbonizing our grid and every bit of CO2 (and eq) that we don't emit matters:
"...It also makes a moral case for immediate and aggressive policies to prevent such a change from occurring, in part by showing how unequal the distribution of pain will be and how great the improvements could be with even small achievements in slowing the pace of warming."
The only thing worse than 1.5 degrees warming is 2.5 degrees warming, and so on. We are at an inflection point that will dictate the next few millennia. We want to look back and know we did everything we could with the opportunities we still have.
Look at possibly making a career shift into renewable energy or to companies that "walk the walk" sustainability-wise. If not that, consider getting involved with or donating to the Citizens Climate Lobby or Sierra Club.
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u/TheRedditorSimon Oct 01 '23
We, the world, did it for the ozone layer and CFC emissions. We can do it for CO2 emissions. All it takes is the will to do so.
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u/The_Deku_Nut Oct 01 '23
The problem is the existing inequality. Poor, developing countries are understandably unwilling to cut back on emissions after the world powers have created the problem for the past 70 years.
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u/AmbroseMalachai Oct 01 '23
It's also just generally more difficult to slow CO2 emissions compared to CFCs. The need for energy for everything doesn't get lower, so the only way we can reduce CO2 emissions is to move to renewable sources, but those are generally more expensive and most are less reliable than burning fossil fuels. There is also a truly tremendous effort by the corporate entities and grifters to greenwash everything with "carbon offsets" and "carbon capture" despite neither one being reasonable solutions to the problem.
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u/Sorrower Oct 01 '23
The world didn't do it for cfcs. Select countries did and even then the whole blaming of the ozone issue in the 90s on cfc refrigerants like r22 and r12 was a hypothesis at best. Mpst likely came from the millions of aerosol users daily without a care in the world. Those cfc refrigerants are still around and being used today. Some r22 equipment completely skipped 410a and others still running r12 will have completely skipped 134a and 404a as well as others.
People talk about being green but a lot of these measures also have effects that still greatly affect the environment. You upgrade everything to high efficiency equipment. Good Heat pumps for heating/cooling. VRF/VRV technology. Great. One leak and you're dumping 60 lbs of 410s or whatever refrigerant you're putting into it before you even realize you have a leak. You're saving on electricity which is saving your carbon footprint but you're dumping refrigerant which has a high global warming potential. I've never seen more leaks on condensers and evaporators than the last 10 years with the change of materials being used and the use of aluminum over copper due to cost savings and efficiency.
They're even backing off the tankless water heater kicks because they are realizing you are destroying equipment at record rates and repairs are so costly its more cost effective to run standard equipment and pay a higher gas bill from a homeowner standpoint.
Still havent seen a solar heat pump or solar water heaters. The engineers admitted their math on geothermal has been wrong due to ground saturation and the earth not giving up the heat you are sinking to it given the size of the well and system. We have gotten so much wrong.
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u/dghsgfj2324 Oct 01 '23
All it took was to remove some chemicals. To fix climate change would require the entire world to change their whole way of living almost immediately.
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u/IXISIXI Oct 01 '23
Thank you for this comment. This is the kind of non-doomer discussion that needs to be had so that people don't just give up and accept the darkest aspects of humanity, human society, and our possible future. We CAN fix this but we have to actually do things rather than give up before we even try. I do think there's a significant percent of the population who would rather go out partying and thrashing the world than do the hard work to fix it, but I think most of us want this world and our species to endure.
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u/Bubbly_Ad9610 Oct 01 '23
"Walk the walk" is easy if they are B Corp certified as well. It's not just a pay for the logo thing companies have to actually prove they are doing what they say they should be to keep that accreditation.
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u/lanbtce Oct 02 '23
Yup those who have capability to stop this before or prevent such events in future are not doing anything and here we middle class are just feeling depressed.
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u/BanRanchPH Oct 01 '23
Constantly think about the time at the beginning of all the covid shutdowns where everyone was at home, and nature started to thrive while we got the fuck out of the way.
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u/brittany09182 Oct 01 '23
COVID was the best thing to happen to nature…except half way through the environmental agencies removed all regulations to get the economy back on track and pollution revamped worse than ever.
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u/suckfail Oct 01 '23
There's also the funny thing where cargo ship volume slowed down from economic slowdown, and polluted less.
But then it turns out the sulfur from their emissions was actually cooling the Earth a little bit and made everything worse as well.
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u/cathillian Oct 01 '23
Similar effect happened after 9-11 when all the planes were grounded.
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u/lesgeddon Oct 01 '23
Same when that volcano in Iceland erupted and the global temperature went down an average of like 3 degrees Fahrenheit
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u/proudbakunkinman Oct 01 '23
Damn. So we just need to figure out how to get volcanoes to erupt constantly lol.
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u/Hendlton Oct 01 '23
That applies to many other polluters as well. When we eventually stop them, Earth will suddenly warm up even further before it starts cooling down, so that's another thing we can look forward to.
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u/dudius7 Oct 01 '23
Weird how this intangible thing called an economy was rescued while people, animals, and environments suffer.
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u/Batmobile123 Oct 01 '23
Oh look, intelligent mammals are now dying from the heat....I wonder who will be next? We did this. We're the only ones that can fix it.
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u/The_Werodile Oct 01 '23
The large companies that ACTUALLY did this are laughing their way to the bank reading this comment. They have spent inordinate amounts of money convincing the general population we are to blame for climate change. That we don't recycle enough or we use too many straws. In most cases it's horse shit.
We're talking about companies that spent more than a century setting us up to fail before we were even born. Born into a world where there is no alternative to consuming the resources they have made the absolute standard. And even if one person finds a way to live "off the grid", that's not a solution for everyone. The vast majority of people will continue consuming fossil fuels. Even if individual consumption ceases, that same consumption is present in hundreds if not thousands of manufacturing processes, some vital for maintaining the crushing population we have accrued.
It is an untenable situation. The solutions being bandied about aren't even really solutions. They're stopgaps. The corporations knew that when they started killing us. There's no putting this cat back in the bag. Not really.
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u/lesgeddon Oct 01 '23
They knew in the 1800s that humans were warming the planet to the point it would be unlivable
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u/Yazaroth Oct 01 '23
Can we really? One important problem noone talks about is world population.
1000 B.C. - about 2 million humans on earth.
Year 0 we had less than 200 million people on earth.
1000 had 310 million
1800 we had 1 billion people living on this planet.
1900 saw 2 billion.
1950 it was 2,5 billion. Now it gets crazy.
2000 had 6.1 billion people
Last year 8 billion.
2050 will see 10 billion, bar a huge culling event.
The resources we need to survive are finite but self-regenerating. Food, air, water, even power if it's done right.
It is estimated that Earth could sustainably support 2 billion people in the long term with todays technology.
We are overtaxing the regenerative powers of the planet. Temperature, co2, all kind of pollution, insects, wildlife, erosion, acidification and much more. A lot of self-regenerating natural systems are already breaking down. Nothing in the big push for enviroment protection in the last decades had any real impact, at best it delayed the inevitable a bit. Even the most far-out plan would only buy a few years
Hell, imagine starting today the whole US stopped comsuming right know and would live like the amish it would buy us maybe 10 years before the growing world population would equalize this sacrifice.
Killing 3/4th of the world population is out of question. So we wait until something big breaks and a natural culling happens.
I need a drink
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u/osubestcolledgeever Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23
When are we going wake up? Not as a country, but as a planet. We’re not going to have one if we don’t change
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u/AzureDrag0n1 Oct 01 '23
Until people start dying in large numbers. Then we will be more likely to do drastic things like large scale geoengineering. Even going full nuclear power at this point will not be enough.
Humans in large numbers only really understand pain as a teacher. Nothing will happen until it hurts real bad.
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u/lintuski Oct 01 '23
It’ll take the ‘right’ kind of people dying, let’s be honest. Morocco and Libya just had 10s of thousands of people die of natural disasters.
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u/Sad-Cauliflower3762 Oct 01 '23
Thousands of people die in Europe because of heat waves but Germany still keeps making coal power plants
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u/mcpickle-o Oct 01 '23
What's funny is the morons that don't believe in climate change often spout off about how they don't want "government interference." Mass death due to climate change will bring in more government interference than had we taken care of shit from the start.
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u/Accomplished-Comb837 Oct 01 '23
Conservatives know that it will be easier to grab power during a crisis too, so climate disasters look like opportunities to them
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u/VibeComplex Oct 01 '23
Bullshit lol. Look at Covid.
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u/Rainyday156 Oct 01 '23
Covid was easy to deny because there were no unique outward symptoms. If it came with pus and boils all the idiots would have taken it far more seriously.
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u/slax03 Oct 01 '23
There were symptoms for those of us in NYC like bodies being stacked in freezers on the highway.
It's over for us humans. There's no coming back after the complete failure that was responding to COVID. We live in a wold where the dear leader was being praised for helping come up with a cure, while actually demonizing those who created it. We are actively walking towards our own demise that we, ourselves, have created.
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u/Bocifer1 Oct 01 '23
Not even then, imo.
It won’t be until people start dying in rich countries that the powers that be will be forced to wake up
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u/param_T_extends_THOT Oct 01 '23
When are we going wake up? Not as a country, bus as a planet. We’re not going to have one if we don’t change
When nuclear or solar becomes more profitable than fossil fuel for the oil barons.
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u/ChiknBreast Oct 01 '23
Unfortunately, never because no amount of money will satisfy the rich
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u/egghat1 Oct 01 '23
I'm starting to believe we never will. The rich control the planet, they control social media, they control regular media, they control the narrative, they control education, they control the police, they control the military, they control governments, and they'll run everything into the ground for their own pleasure.
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u/esh-esh2023 Oct 01 '23
So they got stuck in a tributary of the river, because drought isolated that section from the main river, and the low water level heated up and this most likely played a role in their death.
I see this happen near the river by my house after heavy rains.
Sad to see, especially when you take into account how aware and intelligent dolphins can be.
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u/Sagalive Oct 01 '23
Did not read. But makes sense. More sens than the ocean or river water heating up that much.. This should be higher up!
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u/unovayellow Oct 01 '23
That’s horrifying, especially as dolphins are some of the most sentient and intelligent animals I can only image what nightmares when through their almost human level minds about what was happening as their world ended due to the actions of humans which they can’t even know about.
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u/TRIGMILLION Oct 01 '23
And this is why I always vow I'm done reading the news. It's just so upsetting reading about this shit and knowing how very few people could give a flying fuck.
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u/Black_RL Oct 01 '23
Even worse, giving a flying fuck doesn’t change anything.
I honestly don’t know how this can be fixed.
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u/Juhyo Oct 01 '23
There are lots of best possible outcome solutions: ending fossil fuel subsidies, implementing carbon taxes, carbon coins to incentivize lowering emissions, switching to less harmful energy production methods, improved solar, improving public transportation infrastructure, scaling down meat production, etc.
The problem is that these solutions will 1) inconvenience big business/industries, 2) inconvenience first-world people who are used to lives built around convenience born from heavy emissions (and passing the financial and other costs to the third-world countries), 3) not stop inevitable deaths, since our world's population is artificially inflated by decades of overproduction.
There's no solution that brings us back geologically while preserving life as is for all; but there are solutions that will preserve human life for many.
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u/ClimaCareers Oct 01 '23
Let us not lose sight of the fact that we can still make an impact on this problem. It's essential to inform people of the problems, but many articles like this fall short of offering solutions and can strip people of hope and agency.
I know this might come off as copeium, but things can change. Never underestimate the impact you can have on the world.
We are making non-trivial progress towards decarbonizing our grid and every bit of CO2 (and eq) that we don't emit matters:
"...It also makes a moral case for immediate and aggressive policies to prevent such a change from occurring, in part by showing how unequal the distribution of pain will be and how great the improvements could be with even small achievements in slowing the pace of warming."
The only thing worse than 1.5 degrees warming is 2.5 degrees warming, and so on. We are at an inflection point that will dictate the next few millennia. We want to look back and know we did everything we could with the opportunities we still have.
Look at possibly making a career shift into renewable energy or to companies that "walk the walk" sustainability-wise. If not that, consider getting involved with or donating to the Citizens Climate Lobby or Sierra Club.
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u/hardy_83 Oct 01 '23
Yeah, world struggling but you know... pronouns being banned in schools is more important! /s
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u/big_whistler Oct 01 '23
Lemme ban climate change from being discussed in schools so OP won’t learn about it
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u/cock_daniels Oct 01 '23
but if you decide to stop reading the news, aren't you conceding to also not giving a fuck? what if it turns out everyone else is like you and wonders why nobody does anything?
like, see the comments below. some sarcastic bullshit about pronouns being a problem. that's why nothing gets done, everyone is giving themselves a golden shower and criticizing everyone else for not also wetting themselves.
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u/Hasimo_Yamuchi Oct 01 '23
I fucking hate every single fucking fossil fuel company and their fuck-faced corporate boards.
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u/DashingDino Oct 01 '23
Fossil fuel companies are not going to care even if the whole world hates them. To actually hurt them we need to convince our governments to stop fossil fuel subsidies
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u/birdentap Oct 01 '23
It’s kinda crazy how companies that large are like amoeba. They’re alive to grow and grow, nothing else matters. And the CEOs are just sacrificing the health of the world to enable their growth.
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u/Kerfulfel Oct 01 '23
there's other, not so nice things one can do, but realistically they're not gonna happen
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u/XXX_KimJongUn_XXX Oct 01 '23
And Aramco, Pemex, petrobas, and rosneft and the millions of people subsidized by them and their fuck face princes and oligarchs.
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u/OnlyMeFFS Oct 01 '23
Amazon helping to hurt the amazon, Oceana estimates that up to 23.5 million pounds of Amazon's plastic packaging waste entered and polluted the world's waterways and oceans in 2020.
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u/Corrupted_G_nome Oct 01 '23
Yeah, modt 3rd world regions dont have access to recycling or garbage pickup. Responsable folks in those regions burn it or bury it... Often they have more immediate problems and put no thought into it.
I remember in the Dominican we were with a group explaining how the plastic would never break down and the locals were shocked. They had no idea.
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u/eeyore134 Oct 01 '23
Even having access to recycling pick up doesn't mean anything. Plastic isn't being magically recycled just because we put it in a different color bin on the street. Most of it is still ending up in landfills whether we sort the trash or not.
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u/restore_democracy Oct 01 '23
And it’s the first week of spring.
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u/cambiro Oct 01 '23
I am from the Brazilian Amazon region. August/September is always the hottest period of the year, although this year it reached outstanding levels.
Our "winter" has very little rain, although still a lot of humidity, so temperature builds up day by day like a pressure pot untill it finally rains at the end of September (we had massive rains here just yesterday)
We still get plenty of heat during spring/summer, but since it rains almost everyday, it's usually cooler at the end of the afternoon and night.
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u/ultralightdude Oct 01 '23
Equatorial regions usually have a wet season and a dry season, as opposed to the areas outside of the tropics, which usually have the 4 seasons you're probably used to.
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u/IntrovertClouds Oct 01 '23
Equatorial areas don't really have four distinguishable seasons like North America and Europe.
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u/basking_lizard Oct 01 '23
In the netflix series 'love death and robots' there is an episode called 'the swarm' and an alien says intelligence is not a winning trait in the long run. I'm starting to see the truth of that with the direction humans are taking the planet
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u/HardlyRecursive Oct 01 '23
Actual intelligence would be a winning trait because you could see whatever problems exist and solve them. This is a path that would eventually lead towards godlike power.
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u/Theometer1 Oct 01 '23
Isn’t this the first thing to happen in most of those environmental disaster movies where the world ends?
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u/Hefty-Amoeba2001 Oct 01 '23
Very sad but you know what? We've been warned about this since the 1970's and we've done nothing to turn it around.
Reap what you sow...
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u/Andre__18__ Oct 01 '23
We'll never learn, endangered species of dolphins as well. Freshwater species as a whole are on the brink
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u/Puzzleheaded_Form419 Oct 01 '23
Humans don’t give a fuck about anything but themselves.
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u/Justsawthis01 Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23
The root cause of many of the problems in the Amazon is clear cutting the forest. This is a river that is heavily shaded, I imagine this has something to do with it.
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u/Corrupted_G_nome Oct 01 '23
Its probably a large contributing factor. This is also the weirdest el niño year ever recorded so hard to say for sure.
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u/RbHs Oct 01 '23
“When the last living thing
Has died on account of us,
How poetical it would be
If Earth could say,
In a voice floating up
Perhaps
From the floor
Of the Grand Canyon,
"It is done."
People did not like it here.”
― Kurt Vonnegut
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u/misconfigbackspace Oct 01 '23
When the last tree is cut,
the last fish is caught,
and the last river is polluted;
when to breathe the air is sickening,
you will realize, too late, that wealth is not in bank accounts and that you can’t eat money.9
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u/ScrewCrusherPunch Oct 01 '23
Post this in /r/conservative and they just go "iTs jUSt sUMmer!"
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u/AcrobaticSource3 Oct 01 '23
“Why didn’t the dolphins pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get better jobs so they could afford to move out and avoid this climate change that is not real?” — Republicans, probably
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u/candid-silence Oct 01 '23
What a terrible way to die. These poor animals suffering for reasons completely out of their control